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Re: What you hate about C&C in general(mainly the EA ones) [message #196844 is a reply to message #196827] Tue, 18 April 2006 03:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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MaidenTy1 wrote on Tue, 18 April 2006 07:46


Berkut wrote

PS: Drastic, that is the creepiest avatar I have ever seen. What's it from?

CHU-CHU-CHUCKLE VISION!! CHU-CHUCKLE VISION!!!


Heh, good ol' days those were! Can't beleive that program is still going.

Soon as I saw that pic I had to save it.


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Re: What you hate about C&C in general(mainly the EA ones) [message #196856 is a reply to message #196798] Tue, 18 April 2006 07:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Berkut wrote on Tue, 18 April 2006 02:13

Demo guy wrote:

I am not talking about zooming IN but zooming OUT. In 3d rts games you build like 4 buildings and the screen is full. I want to see a big part from my base like in 2d rts games.


Oh that? I increased the resolution to the maximum setting and was able to see a good deal of the base. Might slow down normal computers, though.
It should be supported by the game. I don't like to "cheat" to get it higher. Since online it won't be allowed...

They care more about gfx then gameplay...
Re: What you hate about C&C in general(mainly the EA ones) [message #196873 is a reply to message #196856] Tue, 18 April 2006 10:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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MaidenTy1 wrote on Tue, 18 April 2006 01:46

Terminator 101 wrote on Sun, 16 April 2006 22:15

I hate that:
- In Tiberian Sun, enemy AI units did more damage than your units

...only on Hard difficulty. That's kinda the point of Hard difficulty: it's, wait for it, harder.
No. You'd think that after 30+ years, game developers would start writing better AIs instead of still needing to make the AI cheat in order to make it win.

Demolition man wrote on Tue, 18 April 2006 09:51

Berkut wrote on Tue, 18 April 2006 02:13

Demo guy wrote:

I am not talking about zooming IN but zooming OUT. In 3d rts games you build like 4 buildings and the screen is full. I want to see a big part from my base like in 2d rts games.


Oh that? I increased the resolution to the maximum setting and was able to see a good deal of the base. Might slow down normal computers, though.
It should be supported by the game. I don't like to "cheat" to get it higher. Since online it won't be allowed...

They care more about gfx then gameplay...

Welcome to the world of EA, where it doesn't matter how many bugs are in the game just as long as the game looks pretty.


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Re: What you hate about C&C in general(mainly the EA ones) [message #196925 is a reply to message #196873] Tue, 18 April 2006 20:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kanezor wrote on Tue, 18 April 2006 13:51

You'd think that after 30+ years, game developers would start writing better AIs instead of still needing to make the AI cheat in order to make it win.

AI is still developing, and it will take long time for it to be smart enough, so that it does not have to cheat.

I have yet to see a strategy game where AI does not cheat.
Actually, I think that AI in Praetorians does not really cheat, but I don't know for sure.


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Re: What you hate about C&C in general(mainly the EA ones) [message #196935 is a reply to message #196925] Tue, 18 April 2006 22:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Terminator 101 wrote on Tue, 18 April 2006 22:09

Kanezor wrote on Tue, 18 April 2006 13:51

You'd think that after 30+ years, game developers would start writing better AIs instead of still needing to make the AI cheat in order to make it win.

AI is still developing, and it will take long time for it to be smart enough, so that it does not have to cheat.

I have yet to see a strategy game where AI does not cheat.
Actually, I think that AI in Praetorians does not really cheat, but I don't know for sure.

PacMan... although that's a lot less strategy, I think.

In any case, how in the hell do you expect AIs to get better when game companies just go "oh, we'll just make it cheat!"?


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Re: What you hate about C&C in general(mainly the EA ones) [message #197365 is a reply to message #196194] Sat, 22 April 2006 16:25 Go to previous message
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The AI in the following games cheats for certain as map editors/leaks allowed you to see.
Unreal tournament GOTYE (who hasn't seen that formula? the on where their damage is multiplied relavent to thier skill level)
Starcraft (yes, even Starcraft, the AI know what you are doing... they know when you are about to attack)
AI is a complex thing, if anyone who complained can program, try this:
Make a program that can think like you and adapt to anything you input. try it, i'll see you in thirty years.



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