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Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users [message #184516 is a reply to message #184497] Mon, 02 January 2006 15:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SCOTT9 wrote on Mon, 02 January 2006 14:27

why dont we make a bypass to show that renguard is shit?


why don't we make an iq test to show that you're an idiot?


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Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users [message #184519 is a reply to message #184130] Mon, 02 January 2006 16:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users [message #184522 is a reply to message #184505] Mon, 02 January 2006 16:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dan wrote on Mon, 02 January 2006 14:39

I've already gone and shown that RenGuard can be 'bypassed'. That is, an external program that in that case was a clickbot. Although Blazer says that clickbots are crap and dont work very well, in multiplayer practice, the clickbot worked surprisingly well. And as long as you have a decent framerate, it aids you very well. The only way I found to spot this is when you walk into a building where the base power is offline (the interior is red), it went pretty wild.

Since a clickbot is an external program, you could probably pause it too, so it can not only get past RenGuard, it could also bypass tests that moderators can give if you can pause it. This is why they need to look into ways of preventing you from playing if it can detect any unallowed programs running in the background. Although this would be a more difficult thing to do...

I hope that this is addressed in RenGuard 1.04



Which clickbot did you use? PM me your answer please...the only clickbot I found was a piece of junk.


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Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users [message #184524 is a reply to message #184522] Mon, 02 January 2006 16:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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=HT=T-Bird wrote on Mon, 02 January 2006 23:25

Dan wrote on Mon, 02 January 2006 14:39

I've already gone and shown that RenGuard can be 'bypassed'. That is, an external program that in that case was a clickbot. Although Blazer says that clickbots are crap and dont work very well, in multiplayer practice, the clickbot worked surprisingly well. And as long as you have a decent framerate, it aids you very well. The only way I found to spot this is when you walk into a building where the base power is offline (the interior is red), it went pretty wild.

Since a clickbot is an external program, you could probably pause it too, so it can not only get past RenGuard, it could also bypass tests that moderators can give if you can pause it. This is why they need to look into ways of preventing you from playing if it can detect any unallowed programs running in the background. Although this would be a more difficult thing to do...

I hope that this is addressed in RenGuard 1.04



Which clickbot did you use? PM me your answer please...the only clickbot I found was a piece of junk.


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Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users [message #184525 is a reply to message #184130] Mon, 02 January 2006 16:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I made it myself, they're pretty piss easy to make. Although I don't have it anymore, since I got rid of it. Probably wouldn't take much effort to make another one...
Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users [message #184529 is a reply to message #184130] Mon, 02 January 2006 19:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think the memory detection in the next version stops those. I'm not 100% sure though.

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Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users [message #184531 is a reply to message #184529] Mon, 02 January 2006 19:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Renx wrote on Mon, 02 January 2006 20:11

I think the memory detection in the next version stops those. I'm not 100% sure though.

hmmm...is it a "go down the process list" type of scanner, or is it a true injection scanner that can stop sneaky aimbots (aimbot-in-the-scripts.dll, anyone?)


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Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users [message #184533 is a reply to message #184130] Mon, 02 January 2006 20:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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well if it was that you could name the exe like n0rten.exe and it would not know the difference besides maybe if they went though all the available aim bots and logged the code somewhere witch is kinda i big waste of time Big Ups

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Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users [message #184546 is a reply to message #184130] Tue, 03 January 2006 00:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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From what i understood, it is based on cheats that exist and could exist. Knowing there already exist cheats with injection and loaded directly in the memory...

BTW: "the ultimate ..."-thingy seems to be down again Wink.


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Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users [message #184556 is a reply to message #184321] Tue, 03 January 2006 06:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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light wrote on Sun, 01 January 2006 08:19

almor999 wrote on Sun, 01 January 2006 08:33


A lot of you do not seem to understand his point. He is not trying to discredit RenGuard. His problem is with a lot of renegade players(including some moderators) who believe anyone running RG cannot cheat and anyone not running it, is cheating.


Bingo.


I don't see how other people believing Renguard is flawless is a reason for you to not run it. If you ARE bypassing Renguard, it's the other person's loss if they are trusting Renguard 100%.

Why can't you just run Renguard and have people think you aren't cheating? Weather you actually are cheating or not, people like this "canisnip" guy will stop accusing you.
Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users [message #184739 is a reply to message #184130] Thu, 05 January 2006 02:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lol this is funny - canisip accuses me all the time - i got 50 plus screen shots of people cussin me out in pm's and what not - sayin i cheat - i love it . i have never cheated the few times i have run a cheat in a room - it was closed to only a few people and they knew what i was doing - testin the cheat so we as moderators could easier test - i run rg period - as crim said - it may not be perfect but it is highly functional - the water filter is the best annology i seen so far .

in the next build (1.04) it should be better than now - i will dl that one also -

for those of you who still refuse to run it - np - i never accuse people of cheats either - i have played with light and newb a whole bunch as well as a bunch others - i doubt very much if they would cheat - if they did or anybody else for that matter - i could care less - i am here to have fun an play a GAME -

if a cheater is in the room - if no mod is there or in irc then i take a ss an leave - no biggie - lots of servers out there -

any who - thanks crim for every thing - keep up the good work

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Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users [message #185587 is a reply to message #184130] Fri, 13 January 2006 08:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i saw canisnip on black cell yesterday i forgot he was the n00b and i didnt manage to piss him off

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Re: The 5 Phases of RenGuard users [message #185616 is a reply to message #184130] Fri, 13 January 2006 11:51 Go to previous message
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