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http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/12/16/patriot.act/index.htm l

Its about time. Our privacy has been saved! Big Ups


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Re: Patriot Act Renewal rejected by the Senate [message #182422 is a reply to message #182418] Fri, 16 December 2005 18:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Patriot Act Renewal rejected by the Senate [message #182423 is a reply to message #182422] Fri, 16 December 2005 18:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When the next towers burn, you can thank the Senate.

"Don't try to be a great man, just be a man. Let history make it's own judgments."

"Maybe its not the destination that matters, but the journey."

"How many people does it take before its wrong? A thousand? Fifty thousand? A million?"

"Im not here to tell you how it is going to end, Im here to tell you how it is going to begin."

"Its not the end or even the beggining of the end, mearly the end of the beggining."

"Logic is the beginning of wisdom; not the end."
Re: Patriot Act Renewal rejected by the Senate [message #182427 is a reply to message #182418] Fri, 16 December 2005 19:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Heh. Terrorists are the least of your worries.

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Re: Patriot Act Renewal rejected by the Senate [message #182433 is a reply to message #182427] Fri, 16 December 2005 20:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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YSLMuffins wrote on Fri, 16 December 2005 22:07

Heh. Terrorists are the least of your worries.



<xp99> We all know that it is a sin for an Islamic male to see any woman other than his wife naked, and that he must commit suicide if he does.
<xp99> So next Sunday at 4:00 PM Eastern time, all American women are asked to walk out of their house completely naked to help weed out any neighborhood terrorists.
<xp99> Circling your block for one hour is recommended for this antiterrorist effort. All men are to position themselves in lawn chairs in front of their house to prove they are not terrorists, and to demonstrate that they think it's okay to see nude women other than their wife and to show support for all American women.
<xp99> And since the Koran also does not approve of alcohol, a cold six-pack at your side is further proof of your antiterrorist sentiment.
<xp99> The American Government appreciates your efforts to root out terrorists and applauds your participation in this anti terrorist activity.
<xp99> God bless America and GOD BLESS AMERICAN WOMEN! IT IS YOUR PATRIOTIC DUTY TO PASS THIS ON


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Re: Patriot Act Renewal rejected by the Senate [message #182444 is a reply to message #182418] Fri, 16 December 2005 21:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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At first i think the act was necessary. But we all know that news broadcasters dont give ya enough so I had to read some of the specifics. After that ive been against this act 100%. Yet this act does the job but it violates our right to privacy and our civil rights (and many other rights if you people can read laws/bills) and i know for sure that you guys dont like to be spied on. Angry

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Re: Patriot Act Renewal rejected by the Senate [message #182450 is a reply to message #182444] Fri, 16 December 2005 22:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thats what they thought on 9/10/01....

"Don't try to be a great man, just be a man. Let history make it's own judgments."

"Maybe its not the destination that matters, but the journey."

"How many people does it take before its wrong? A thousand? Fifty thousand? A million?"

"Im not here to tell you how it is going to end, Im here to tell you how it is going to begin."

"Its not the end or even the beggining of the end, mearly the end of the beggining."

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Re: Patriot Act Renewal rejected by the Senate [message #182460 is a reply to message #182450] Sat, 17 December 2005 04:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Patriot Act Renewal rejected by the Senate [message #182475 is a reply to message #182418] Sat, 17 December 2005 06:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Does anyone have a link to the reformed bill? I can't seem to find one.


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Re: Patriot Act Renewal rejected by the Senate [message #182484 is a reply to message #182475] Sat, 17 December 2005 09:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bush said that after 9/11, when there are no more attacks, we will slip back into the idea that we are invinceable. This is the first step.

"Don't try to be a great man, just be a man. Let history make it's own judgments."

"Maybe its not the destination that matters, but the journey."

"How many people does it take before its wrong? A thousand? Fifty thousand? A million?"

"Im not here to tell you how it is going to end, Im here to tell you how it is going to begin."

"Its not the end or even the beggining of the end, mearly the end of the beggining."

"Logic is the beginning of wisdom; not the end."
Re: Patriot Act Renewal rejected by the Senate [message #182509 is a reply to message #182418] Sat, 17 December 2005 13:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm glad it failed. Though, I don't have anything to hide. I mean, I don't want the government to know what I do, but if it means I have more security, I don't know, maybe it's worth it. Do I think that the Patriot Act is exactly what we need? No, but I think something similar could be beneficial. I think the Patriot Act came about a little too hastily.

Re: Patriot Act Renewal rejected by the Senate [message #182523 is a reply to message #182418] Sat, 17 December 2005 14:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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heh, I'm sure there are many happy young adults that are glad that the Military is no longer allowed (by statute) to harrass them with "Join the Military" phone calls.
Re: Patriot Act Renewal rejected by the Senate [message #182535 is a reply to message #182418] Sat, 17 December 2005 19:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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All I had to do was tell them no....

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Re: Patriot Act Renewal rejected by the Senate [message #182537 is a reply to message #182418] Sat, 17 December 2005 20:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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heh, only reason I bring it up was that it was on the news a while ago that a number of people were being phoned numerous times after saying no the first time, to the point of harassment.

It could be an isolated incident I guess...
Re: Patriot Act Renewal rejected by the Senate [message #182538 is a reply to message #182418] Sat, 17 December 2005 21:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Don't worry, President Bush is illegally authorizing spying anyways.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/12/17/113212/10

EDIT: Oh, and gbull, why'd you say no if you're in support of the War in Iraq? (You still are, right?)


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Re: Patriot Act Renewal rejected by the Senate [message #182539 is a reply to message #182418] Sat, 17 December 2005 21:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Military wasn't the career path I chose. If I was drafted I would go, if that's what you mean. I wouldn't flee to canada. You're in favor of evolution, are you going to become an ecologist?

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Re: Patriot Act Renewal rejected by the Senate [message #182545 is a reply to message #182418] Sat, 17 December 2005 21:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)

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Re: Patriot Act Renewal rejected by the Senate [message #182555 is a reply to message #182418] Sat, 17 December 2005 23:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's a shame we can use phone and wire taps on suspected drug lords but not suspected terrorists, now.

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Re: Patriot Act Renewal rejected by the Senate [message #182560 is a reply to message #182418] Sat, 17 December 2005 23:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Lol, you can say that again
Re: Patriot Act Renewal rejected by the Senate [message #182561 is a reply to message #182418] Sat, 17 December 2005 23:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Patriot Act Renewal rejected by the Senate [message #182562 is a reply to message #182418] Sun, 18 December 2005 00:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Uh-huh, and they were necessary for wiretaps and the like even under the Patriot Act.

Your point?


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Re: Patriot Act Renewal rejected by the Senate [message #182572 is a reply to message #182418] Sun, 18 December 2005 07:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Patriot Act Renewal rejected by the Senate [message #182580 is a reply to message #182572] Sun, 18 December 2005 07:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well put it this way, under the Pat Act I felt safe getting on a train or a bus. Now i don't know, the guy yelling "I have a bomb" might be a terrorist and not a mentally challanged person.

"Don't try to be a great man, just be a man. Let history make it's own judgments."

"Maybe its not the destination that matters, but the journey."

"How many people does it take before its wrong? A thousand? Fifty thousand? A million?"

"Im not here to tell you how it is going to end, Im here to tell you how it is going to begin."

"Its not the end or even the beggining of the end, mearly the end of the beggining."

"Logic is the beginning of wisdom; not the end."
Re: Patriot Act Renewal rejected by the Senate [message #182735 is a reply to message #182418] Mon, 19 December 2005 15:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If the Patriot Act made you feel safe using public transportation, then I'm sorry to say you've been riding on a false sense of security. You might try actually reading the Act itself, to see what it really did...

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Re: Patriot Act Renewal rejected by the Senate [message #182752 is a reply to message #182735] Mon, 19 December 2005 16:47 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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False sense is still better then mass fear.

"Don't try to be a great man, just be a man. Let history make it's own judgments."

"Maybe its not the destination that matters, but the journey."

"How many people does it take before its wrong? A thousand? Fifty thousand? A million?"

"Im not here to tell you how it is going to end, Im here to tell you how it is going to begin."

"Its not the end or even the beggining of the end, mearly the end of the beggining."

"Logic is the beginning of wisdom; not the end."
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