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Re: CnC Reborn :: Nod Kerubim [message #181373 is a reply to message #181237] Sun, 04 December 2005 16:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That looks so retarded... Those two large "plasma rifles" he carries must not weigh very much for their size.http://www.renegadeforums.com/images/message_icons/icon14.gif

And a lot of the story in Red Alert did take place in Russia.
http://www2.hawaii.edu/~sampe/moscow_kremlin_photo_snow.jpg

It's cold there in the winter I'm guessing.


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWG7-SkWpjU&feature=relmfu
Here's a compelling comment instead.
Re: CnC Reborn :: Nod Kerubim [message #181375 is a reply to message #181237] Sun, 04 December 2005 17:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, it's russia on your pic as you say.

I am talking about Europe as Eu not as a continent.
We all know that Eurasia has some cold places. And except for
the end missions of Allies, Red Alert takes place out of Russia.

It takes place in Europe as soviets invade the place:

http://www.cncsaga.com/galeries/9/2_rendu/002.jpg

As for the weight of the gun, I suggest you read first post. There aren't only pics...*

And as I explained above, people and battle in Tib Sun are in desert or in snowy place because there are less tiberium there and so they can survive without being infected by the toxic tiberum.

See the map of tiberium, no tiberium in desert of sahara, no tiberium on polar caps:

http://www.planetcnc.com/images/image.asp?/features/encyclop edia/cnccanon/nodharvesting.jpg


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Re: CnC Reborn :: Nod Kerubim [message #181376 is a reply to message #181237] Sun, 04 December 2005 17:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Moscow is in Europe, Western Russia is in Europe while the rest is located on the Asian side of the Eurasian continent.
And it gets cold during the winter in many countries of the European Union...

http://www.nwriu.co.uk/Strategic/IMAGES/European%20Union%20M ap2.jpg

Might aswell mention the freaking Alps while I'm at it.


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Re: CnC Reborn :: Nod Kerubim [message #181378 is a reply to message #181339] Sun, 04 December 2005 17:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Renardin6 wrote on Sun, 04 December 2005 11:55

I like the nod concepts that were done for Generals:

http://www.f7c-network.com/data/media/267/CCG33_Infantry.jpg

I think it's good to innovate on certain point. It gives a unique touch to our work.



Yes, like having Nod units wear GDI gear. I too love the Nod concept that looks just like a GDI anti-tank soldier. It's incredible how well Nod copied the GDI logo even.

Renardin6 wrote on Sun, 04 December 2005 16:17

Ryan3k wrote on Sun, 04 December 2005 13:49


Yeah, then you have to ask yourself, why in the world is a soldier on the battlefield doing wearing a damn well frilly leather jacket?


who said it was leather? lol!

Hey omg, I found a jacket of the same kind maybe... Just imagine that it can be black.

http://images.google.fr/images?q=tbn:o7UIjSBGK5wJ:renegade.gamingsource.co.uk/renalert/officer_a.gif

Oh and yes, where the fuck did you see that dude in Red Alert?

Show me. Right, You can't. KTHXOWNED.


That's not a jacket of the same kind. That's a trenchcoat/officer's jacket. Guys in the various branches for Reserve Officers Training Corps here are issued one actually, and it's considered part of their uniform. And considering that's an Allied Officer, it makes sense he should wear that, don't you think? During the war, it was often cold and wet, just like it is here. Perfect for that.

That is a normal jacket. Your guy has a SKIRT, with a completely unrelated top and backpack apparattus. It's kept flared open for some reason, ridiculously flared in the concept; and it's really quite thick. It's like an armored skirt that purposely leaves the front exposed, it's nowhere near a trenchcoat.

Do you want me to show you soldiers wearing similar style jackets in Red Alert? Because I don't think you want me to. I don't think you would want me to show you officers of any kind really because it'd screw your argument.
Re: CnC Reborn :: Nod Kerubim [message #181379 is a reply to message #181237] Sun, 04 December 2005 17:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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^5 Chronojam. I think I have some pictures of those also =P


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Re: CnC Reborn :: Nod Kerubim [message #181380 is a reply to message #181237] Sun, 04 December 2005 17:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, no jacket like that on the units in-game.

As for the clothes of the Kerubim (actually a trench coat also), it's in the style of this:

http://www.gamingeye.com/skarmdumpar/bilder/1871/29845-large.jpg

http://www.cnc-source.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=1983& amp; amp;s=505dd1a910113aa56326a3e28d237882

http://www.cnc-source.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=1982& amp; amp;s=505dd1a910113aa56326a3e28d237882



The gdi concept, showed above, is for the uzi. We copied the uzi from this concept. (see the uzi here: http://mods.moddb.com/gallery/image/29803/ ) The only concepts used for the Kerubim are showed on the first post.

Now I just wanted to say, I'm sorry for the abuse directed your way at the beginning of this thread, Chronojam. When I recognized my team's work was being used in a mocking way on the RenAlert forums and hosted on the RenAlert site, it just really got to me.

And because it seemed to be you who uploaded it and stickied the thread, I held you responsible for the whole thing; I didn't know you didn't know (that I knew that they didn't know that you knew we didn't know that we knew they didn't know etc. etc.).

I just wanted to apologize for being so rude after you were complimenting us on our latest infantry model, and say thanks for your positive feedback.

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Re: CnC Reborn :: Nod Kerubim [message #181382 is a reply to message #181237] Sun, 04 December 2005 18:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Definitions of trench coat on the Web:

A military waterproof coat invented by the British trade at the request of the British War Office during World War I. Overcoats soaked with rain and mud were too heavy and uncomfortable, normal raincoats inadequate. Tested against hose-pipes, the proofed material was double thickness across the back and high storm collars buttoned tight across the front via special straps. Various metal hooks and D-rings allowed the hanging of equipment, and a tradition was created. ...
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Coat of military origin, rainproof, buttoned and tied with belt usually of same fabric. The coat has many details with pockets, flaps and sometimes epaulettes. examples
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a military style raincoat; belted with deep pockets
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A trench coat is an enduringly popular item of clothing worn round the world. It is generally made of heavy duty cotton, drill or poplin, and has a lining which can be removed depending on the weather. It is a descendant of the heavy serge coats worn by British and French soldiers in World War I. The classical trench coat was a creation of Thomas Burberry, inventor of gabardine fabric, who submitted in 1901 a design for an army officer's raincoat to the UK War Office. ...
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Re: CnC Reborn :: Nod Kerubim [message #181383 is a reply to message #181237] Sun, 04 December 2005 18:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kay Renardin.

Yeah, they're called trench coats because they were made for the heroes serving out there in the trenches =P
Re: CnC Reborn :: Nod Kerubim [message #181384 is a reply to message #181237] Sun, 04 December 2005 18:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: CnC Reborn :: Nod Kerubim [message #181386 is a reply to message #181380] Sun, 04 December 2005 19:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Renardin6 wrote on Sun, 04 December 2005 19:57

The gdi concept, showed above, is for the uzi. We copied the uzi from this concept. (see the uzi here: http://mods.moddb.com/gallery/image/29803/ ) The only concepts used for the Kerubim are showed on the first post.


Those aren't Uzis...


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Renardin6 wrote on Sun, 04 December 2005 16:17

Ryan3k wrote on Sun, 04 December 2005 13:49


Yeah, then you have to ask yourself, why in the world is a soldier on the battlefield doing wearing a damn well frilly leather jacket?


who said it was leather? lol!


Oh, I'm sorry, Renardin my dear! It's made of rubber, then?

It looked like leather to me, so you've obviously failed in your duties as texture artist. OOPS!

Why? You can't get your artistic point across. Oh, and while we're talking about points, MY POINT STILL STANDS.

Renardin6 wrote on Sun, 04 December 2005 16:17

Hey omg, I found a jacket of the same kind maybe... Just imagine that it can be black.

http://images.google.fr/images?q=tbn:o7UIjSBGK5wJ:renegade.gamingsource.co.uk/renalert/officer_a.gif

Oh and yes, where the fuck did you see that dude in Red Alert?

Show me. Right, You can't. KTHXOWNED.


OH NOES! Have I insulted the great Renardin? LMFAO. Yeah, man! You totally woulda 'OWNED' me if THAT HAD ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING TO DO WITH MY ARGUMENT IN THE FIRST GODDAMN PLACE. Fucking moron. Can you tell me where, in my post, I said, "OMG KERUBINKERBBQ WERNT IN TIB SUN1!1!"

Renardin

As for the clothes of the Kerubim (actually a trench coat also), it's in the style of this:

http://www.gamingeye.com/skarmdumpar/bilder/1871/29845-large .jpg

http://www.cnc-source.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=1983& amp; amp; amp;s=505dd1a910113aa56326a3e28d237882

http://www.cnc-source.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=1982& amp; amp; amp;s=505dd1a910113aa56326a3e28d237882


Well, there's a big difference, chief. The "Kerubim" is a soldier who fights on the battlefield, ridiculous as that may seem based on his appearance, unlike Kane (more about that later). Soldiers don't usually want to draw attention to themselves by wearing an article of clothing that FLARES OUT like that of your "Kerubim" does.

It doesn't matter if Kane wears a trenchcoat, because he's not going to be in the middle of the battlefield gunning people down with a pair of ridiculously large "plasma" guns. LOL... Unless Reborn has already decided to make him a playable character? Thumbs Up

In conclusion,
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Re: CnC Reborn :: Nod Kerubim [message #181420 is a reply to message #181237] Mon, 05 December 2005 06:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quote:

How about you not post it? That sounds like a better idea.

This is not a debate about the Command and Conquer Series, Take it someplace else.

Maybe the one that started the arguing in this thread, wait who was that... Oh, Renardin, shouldn't have derailed his own thread.


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Re: CnC Reborn :: Nod Kerubim [message #181434 is a reply to message #181420] Mon, 05 December 2005 10:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sir Phoenixx wrote on Mon, 05 December 2005 08:48

Quote:

How about you not post it? That sounds like a better idea.

This is not a debate about the Command and Conquer Series, Take it someplace else.

Maybe the one that started the arguing in this thread, wait who was that... Oh, Renardin, shouldn't have derailed his own thread.


I aggree, He shouldn't have. Let's drop it now, Please.


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Re: CnC Reborn :: Nod Kerubim [message #181457 is a reply to message #181237] Mon, 05 December 2005 14:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Renardin, I think he means a little bit more to the east, like Sweden and Poland.

Re: CnC Reborn :: Nod Kerubim [message #181476 is a reply to message #181237] Mon, 05 December 2005 19:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I actually really like this image: http://moddb.com/images/cache/mods/63/631/gallery/thumb_3408 8.jpg

The only thing is that it doesn't seem like he could hold those guns like that.

And under normal circumstances I would've just locked this thread. I don't see why this has to happen every time, but I can understand why people would want to be defensive. All I can say is that the best thing we can do is let go of the past and try focusing on the now.


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Re: CnC Reborn :: Nod Kerubim [message #181480 is a reply to message #181237] Mon, 05 December 2005 22:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Too bad others don't possess your maturity Muffins.

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YSLMuffins wrote on Mon, 05 December 2005 21:54

I actually really like this image: http://moddb.com/images/cache/mods/63/631/gallery/thumb_3408 8.jpg

The only thing is that it doesn't seem like he could hold those guns like that.



Thanks! I do aggree, there is not way he could hold both of those weapons. I thought the pose was too cool to throw away. I made about 5 poses with him a few months ago, I tosses two.

Here is an old render I made, which was supposed to be for the public, but I don't think it was ever shown.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/DeathAX/NodKerubimRender.jpg




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Also, here is the original render, which I was told was too dark.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/DeathAX/Nod_Kerubim.jpg


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I like the original more.

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I somewhat prefer the older one.


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Re: CnC Reborn :: Nod Kerubim [message #182238 is a reply to message #181380] Wed, 14 December 2005 04:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Renardin6 wrote on Sun, 04 December 2005 19:57


The gdi concept, showed above, is for the uzi. We copied the uzi from this concept. (see the uzi here: http://mods.moddb.com/gallery/image/29803/ ) The only concepts used for the Kerubim are showed on the first post.



Too bad that's not an Uzi; that's a modified MP7.


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As it's not a 'real' weapon, we call it how we want.

So it's an uzi.


It has similar stuff as an MP7 but it's not a MP7.
It has also similar stuss as what you can find on an uzi.

Use google search : uzi or mp7 (look for pics).


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http://www.f7c-network.com/data/media/267/CCG33_Infantry.jpg
http://mods.moddb.com/gallery/image/29803/

HK MP7 PDW:
http://www.hkpro.com/pdwright.jpg
http://www.hkpro.com/pdwmain.jpg

IMI Uzi:
http://world.guns.ru/smg/mini-uzi.jpg

Besides adding very small details like grooves to a couple places, they didn't design it at all, it's not some gun they made up, and it has nothing at all in common with the Uzi, and obviously isn't a combination of the two. It isn't an Uzi, it is an MP7.


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Doesn't Reborn have about 3 or 4 different Uzis that all look incredibly not the same?

Edit: It also appears Renardin finally realized that's a GDI concept, based on the quote at the top of the page.

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