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http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0,3605,1645418,00.ht ml

Yes the research is far away from testing or working on humans, but consider what would happen if everyone lives for 500 years.

1. You would probably be a "teenager" for 300 years!
2. There would be such a thing as a "400 year old virgin"
3. Home mortgages that last 30 years wouldn't seem so bad anymore.
4. You would buy a lot more cars
5. You would upgrade your computer 100+ times.
6. You would have great-great-great-great grandchildren, and stiill be able to see their graduation
7. Supermodels would be "super" for decades
8. You would spend $500,00 on pet food (assuming they lives 6x longer too)
9. You could buy some stock and you would definitely be a millionare eventually as long as the company stayed around.
10. Your life insurance would either go way up, or way down.

Any more ideas? Personally I think <conspiracy> the "government" would never allow this research to be available, as the planet probably could not sustain the massively increased population explosion. </conspiracy>

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Re: What if people could live 500 years? [message #179717 is a reply to message #179715] Fri, 18 November 2005 17:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I doubt that anything good could possibly come from that
Re: What if people could live 500 years? [message #179718 is a reply to message #179715] Fri, 18 November 2005 18:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You kidding? That would be awesome.

Though, we'd probably have to get rid of lifetime appointments for federal judges. Razz


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Re: What if people could live 500 years? [message #179721 is a reply to message #179715] Fri, 18 November 2005 18:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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agree lol/ i think it would be cool to live long enough to see the playstation 103 Big Grin

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Re: What if people could live 500 years? [message #179722 is a reply to message #179715] Fri, 18 November 2005 19:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sardine Theory!!!

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Research has now begun to test whether the effect works in mice. According to Dr Longo, lab mice bred with the equivalent gene knocked out appear to live longer, but are smaller, infertile and often suffer muscular defects, suggesting the gene is necessary for normal foetal development.


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Aubrey de Grey, a biomedical gerontologist at Cambridge University and advocate for therapies that greatly extend life, believes that while the problems should not be underestimated, it is unethical not to pursue anti-ageing research.

"A remarkably high proportion of people seem to like living in cities. With the staggering amounts of wealth that will be freed up by not having any frail people around any more, it will become practical to build very high-quality urban accommodation for everyone, and the density of that accommodation is such that a population of at least 20 billion will hardly encroach at all on the amount of rural space that currently exists," he said.

How is this unethical? And why do I feel that Aubrey is full of shit? It slows the aging process it dosen't stop it. Lets say the average human life span was 50, for easy math. Seems to me you would start feeling old at 400 and would have 100 years to deal with the dieing process.


Re: What if people could live 500 years? [message #179723 is a reply to message #179715] Fri, 18 November 2005 19:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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well if it was to happen there would probably be a restriction to 2/3 children

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Re: What if people could live 500 years? [message #179734 is a reply to message #179715] Fri, 18 November 2005 22:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Overpopulation, increased diseases, war due to overpopulation and lack of natural resources....

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Re: What if people could live 500 years? [message #179737 is a reply to message #179715] Fri, 18 November 2005 23:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If I could cough up the dough to get such a treatment, I wouldn't hesitate. I am fascinated by the future, and I wish to see as much of it as I possibly can.

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Re: What if people could live 500 years? [message #179740 is a reply to message #179715] Fri, 18 November 2005 23:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This could force development of space colonization so I am all for it. If we could live for 500 years that would be amazing imagine if we could have kept great minds around like Einstein for 500 years. Our society would be so amazingly technologically advanced we would probably not have to worry about over population. I think our most intelligent society members should recieve the treatment first so they can continue to build on this technology.

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Re: What if people could live 500 years? [message #179749 is a reply to message #179715] Sat, 19 November 2005 01:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My Dumbass,
Lets say the average human life span was 50, for easy math. Seems to me you would start feeling old at 400 and would have 100 years to deal with the dieing process.

Easy math huh? 50x6=300 40x6=240
If this is based on starving the body of calories, and thus nutrition. I guess this could solve overpopulation with the flood of frail, unintelligent, infertile men.


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Re: What if people could live 500 years? [message #179781 is a reply to message #179715] Sat, 19 November 2005 10:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hmm, It would take us 1/10th of the speed of light and 40 years of travel to get further then our solar system. They are already working on hibernating. Like some animals hold a wintersleep, they are working on this. But 500 years? alive? I doub't it will be possible, you would get something like a Cyborg/human. But some organism/bacteria can do this..

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Re: What if people could live 500 years? [message #179808 is a reply to message #179715] Sat, 19 November 2005 17:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Also in 500 years ack would be in his wheelchair, talking about how Renegade is dead Wink
Re: What if people could live 500 years? [message #179814 is a reply to message #179715] Sat, 19 November 2005 18:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Lol, nice one, Blazer Razz.

Yes but this also brings up the problem with life after death.
Imagine if *something* happens to us after we die.Will the same happen after we live half a millenia?

Also, who decides who will recieve the treatment and who wont?
Corruption is a modern problem and a lot of people can benefit by recieving the anti-aging treatment that way Wink.

From a religious point of view,<lesson> God created us after his image.
He banished Adam and Eve out of the garden of Paradise, beacuse they ate the apple-the original sin.
Thus all human beings after them, live on Earth to redempt (am i using the correct word in English?) the original sin.</lesson>
Redempting the original sin would be possible if we live 500 years (still we die after that Wink) but if they take the next step to making us immortal, there`d be a lot of controversy about it.

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Re: What if people could live 500 years? [message #179823 is a reply to message #179715] Sat, 19 November 2005 19:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I believe the word your searching for is repent. Either way I like the way you think.

Re: What if people could live 500 years? [message #179837 is a reply to message #179715] Sat, 19 November 2005 23:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This is nice, but it could almost end up similarly to the movie 6th day. In this movie, cloning was introduced and the one who introduced it wanted to be able to decide who lives and who dies. So in another words, he wanted to be almost like god. But he had to be stopped, and the cloning research destroyed. THE END

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yeah, well, they already cloned a sheep didn't they?

I think they are pretty close to this..but do you think it would come out in public verry soon? No it will be kept among the people working in places like Area51. Cloning people would be just wrong imo, but what are we to do about it.


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I imagine if it were to become a reality it would be a very very expensive treatment (1 mill plus) for several reasons:

1. It would have to be expensive so that "everyone" wouldn't get it and cause population problems.
2. Then again since you would live 6 times longer, they could put you on a mega installment plan...$100 per month for 300 years...thats $360,000 Smile
3. Since you can't exactly do gene therapy on yourself they can set the price at whatever they please and people will have to pay it.
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mision08 wrote on Sat, 19 November 2005 04:19

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My Dumbass,
Lets say the average human life span was 50, for easy math. Seems to me you would start feeling old at 400 and would have 100 years to deal with the dieing process.

Easy math huh? 50x6=300 40x6=240
If this is based on starving the body of calories, and thus nutrition. I guess this could solve overpopulation with the flood of frail, unintelligent, infertile men.


No, it tricks the body into thinking it lacks these things. it doesn't actually limit them.


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Re: What if people could live 500 years? [message #179881 is a reply to message #179862] Sun, 20 November 2005 08:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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JPNOD wrote on Sun, 20 November 2005 05:53

yeah, well, they already cloned a sheep didn't they?

I think they are pretty close to this..but do you think it would come out in public verry soon? No it will be kept among the people working in places like Area51. Cloning people would be just wrong imo, but what are we to do about it.

no, they would keep something like that at area52.because area51 is a cover up for area52.


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Like mision08 says. Maybe streching the time you are young is nice, but you will possibly also stretch the time that you are old. If I look at some old people, I don't want to become like them. And having to spend 100 years or something of slowly dieing sounds to me like real hell. Just to think of all the old people who have to be taken care off.


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Maybe they could have a way to turn the effect off, so when you get "old" you could have it stopped and die of old age in a normal time frame (10-15 years or so, instead of a hundred years).

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possibly, but imagine the agony of dieing in 100 years.Oh,god Dont Get It ...

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no, they would keep something like that at area52.because area51 is a cover up for area52.


Gotta love those conspiracy theories Razz

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I think they are pretty close to this..but do you think it would come out in public verry soon? No it will be kept among the people working in places like Area51. Cloning people would be just wrong imo, but what are we to do about it.


Cloning people was voted "unethical" by the church, the UN and the EU. So if the US do clone people, they`ll have a lot of problems with the rest of the world Wink.

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I imagine if it were to become a reality it would be a very very expensive treatment (1 mill plus) for several reasons:

1. It would have to be expensive so that "everyone" wouldn't get it and cause population problems.
2. Then again since you would live 6 times longer, they could put you on a mega installment plan...$100 per month for 300 years...thats $360,000 Smile
3. Since you can't exactly do gene therapy on yourself they can set the price at whatever they please and people will have to pay it.


Meaning that whoever gives the more money will live longer.He will be SUPREME and above everybody else, making everybody else`s way of life seem unimportant.

If this topic had a poll about this, i`d vote against continuing this research.Currently only politicians, thieves, assholes, bigger assholes, the biggest assholes have big ammounts of cash.Meaning that they can continue their reign of evil, so to say, for half a millenium.Imagine if Al Capone terrorised the US for 500 years. Our lives would be a lot more different now.
What about a 300 years old Osama Bin Laden attacking the US for the n-th time over and over again...


Re: What if people could live 500 years? [message #179905 is a reply to message #179715] Sun, 20 November 2005 11:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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overpopulation can be handled, just look at China. (albeit they waited long enough, though)

as for being old longer: there are some people who take their life for granted and do things they haven't done yet (There are old folks who go sky diving;etc.) Not to mention if i'm remembering from what it says it helps to prevent cancer - a huge cause of death.

as for the church I really don't think there was anywhere in the bible that said anything against cloning or living longer. Hell, since then our some of our lives have tripled what it used to be. Cloning has gone far in today's world already. I read somewhere where they actually can clone a lost cat. (they didn't get so far as dogs, if i remember) although having a pet that lives as long (heh, or even longer than you) could prove useful for families. I think it'd be unbelievable to not continue researching because of the things that would prove useful (Hey, having a pet last even twice as long as a normal one is enough to ask for continuation in research, let alone 6 times the norm)

Maybe there are people out there who believe they might go to hell if their lives extend beyond whenever it is they think the deadline is. So be it. If it ever came to be my choice i'm not going to risk 6 lives (and it's probably not even going to last that long most likely. I mean each probability of "in a lifetime" is multiplied by 6, because you're living that much longer) I'll take the chance of living longer instead of going against whatever the church thinks will happen.


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More people living longer, as long as they're not like.. decomposing... means a larger work force. More shit can get done. More cities can be made. More minds can study longer and solve our problems. Flying out to another planet, taking 3 years to get there, won't seem so bad; the time it takes to reach other locations right now is a bitch and is one of the major things curbing it from happening as far as I can tell. 11 years to figure out colored bubbles wouldn't seem as extreme a time.

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gbull wrote on Sat, 19 November 2005 04:34

Overpopulation, increased diseases, war due to overpopulation and lack of natural resources....

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