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| Re: CNC Reborn Update: Lightmaps [message #179272 is a reply to message #179269] |
Tue, 15 November 2005 11:42   |
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Spice
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Unlke the rest of my teammebers I want to work together with the other renegade mods.
Where is somerhinos tutorial? As far as I know, he did them differently than we did and would take 10+ hours to do a map.
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| Re: CNC Reborn Update: Lightmaps [message #179281 is a reply to message #179269] |
Tue, 15 November 2005 12:46 |
Chronojam
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Let's not fag this thread up (sorry, had to get the word in again) more than it already was.
Personally, I have a GF4 era card... when Ren came out, the GF2 was the thing you'd have basically, so let's put things into perspective. I noticed something was up when I realized how small his HUD seems: I could never play the game with the details and resolution that high.
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| Re: CNC Reborn Update: Lightmaps [message #179296 is a reply to message #179269] |
Tue, 15 November 2005 16:02 |
JPNOD
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Looks sweet  , as long as my TIiiiiiiiiiiiiii runs it
offtopic:
to bad C&C Decade comes out soon, they should put Reborn, and Ren Alert on the extra DVD.  That would bring alot of players into it.
I just hope the Reborn mod is kinda completed april next year
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| Re: CNC Reborn Update: Lightmaps [message #179306 is a reply to message #179269] |
Tue, 15 November 2005 16:57 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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As far as the stuff in w3d goes, that is really cool, Renardin.
And ACK, once again you are entirely incorrect. But, of course, as is the pattern of the ideologue, I'll never be able to convince you of that. So just leave the thread once your argument runs out like you always do.
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| Re: CNC Reborn Update: Lightmaps [message #179342 is a reply to message #179340] |
Wed, 16 November 2005 00:22 |
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Spice
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| icedog90 wrote on Wed, 16 November 2005 01:24 |
I'm 16. What a big difference.
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If you never told me your age, I would have guessed you were at least eighteen.
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| Re: CNC Reborn Update: Lightmaps [message #179371 is a reply to message #179269] |
Wed, 16 November 2005 09:45 |
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htmlgod
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I wonder if Aircraftkiller will ever be able to accept that Reborn has produced superior graphical quality on the w3d engine than he can produce on the same scale for BF2 [note that I wouldn't say on the BF2 engine, since he's yet to get anything in-game], or in high-definition renders with 3DSM, or even that he ever produced in his many years working with W3D.
Bottom line is, Reborn, when released, will probably have far better graphics than Renalert produced for Renegade or even in most of their 3D Studio Max Renders for RA:APB productions. I guess, Aircraftkiller, that your whole approach of 'I'm not gonna put detail on this replica of a poorly-made early 90's design if it wasn't put there by the original creator' hasn't really paid off. But even if Reborn had far inferior graphics, they still show more relative and appealing progress than Aircraftkiller's never-ending acid trip which is so undeservingly called a "modification" for a game to which they've made no apparent modifications - only random 'artistic' creations about as relevant to BF2 as a street painter's work is to a museum's fine art collection, as they are yet to implement ANYTHING. In any case, lets review the two mods' updates over the last 3 months, for an analysis of productivity and artistic merit:
Reborn's updates over the last 3 months:
1. The implementation of lightmaps - a beautiful innovation which greatly improves the overall graphical quality of W3D Renders
2. New GDI Helipad - artistic, realistic, and accurate model and texture
3. New GDI Barracks - artistic, realistic, and accurate model and texture
4. New GDI Base walls - artistic, practical, and accurate model and texture
5. New Nod Advanced Powerplant - artistic, realistic, and accurate model and texture
6. New Nod Weapons Factory - artistic, realistic, and accurate model and texture
7. New wall paper and assorted PT icons - innovative and good-looking model and texture
8. New GDI Power Plant - artistic, realistic, and accurate model and texture
[Note, when I say Realstic, I refer to the model proportions and general physical attributes, and I mean realistic with reference to the theme, the fictional Tiberian Sun universe in this case. If Reborn's productions were realistic with reference to the real world today, it would not be much of a TS mod.]
RenAlert: APB's 'Updates' over the last 3 Months
1. "Inactive" - an excuse for why Aircraftkiller hasn't gotten anything done lately
2. Allied wallpaper - a fairly well-made wallpaper, which is of no real significance to the release of the mod, and which Aircraftkiller, reaching a new level of unprofessional and dishonorable action, tries to make money off of by linking to aircraftkiller.deviantart.com/store in his original post
3. Staff update: consultant - Renalert announces that they've hired someone who will give advice on APB's creations.... if they ever make any
4. "Status update" - Aircraftkiller announces that there is no news, but that there will be soon. Can't wait.
5. Soviet Yak - A well-modeled, aesthetically pleasing, and realistic recreation of the Soviet Yak as it appears in Red Alert. It's very nice, but it's not much of a step towards the completion of RA:APB, especially not for being the only artistic creation relevant to the release of the mod in about 3 months.
6. "Life Update: Engagement" - Aircraftkiller announces to the world that he's getting engaged. We're still trying to figure out how this ties into "Modification Updates," the forum section where it was posted. In any case, Aircraftkiller makes more excuses for the fact that he's not getting a whole lot done.
7. Graphic Update - Official Logo: It's pretty, and it certainly fits the Red Alert theme and logo design trends, but, uh, did you really need to spend that much time making the logo for the mod, if you're so far from release, and have so many artistic creations for the playable mod to be left?
Basically, my point is this: Although I have much respect for Aircraftkiller and his artistic ability, as well as for his productions for the W3D engine, it seems like RA:APB is dead in the water. Aircraftkiller says that he has little free time - a condition which is perhaps beyond his control, and indeed unfortunate for RA:APB, but should someone with no free time really be the executive producer for a total conversion modification? And, to make matters worse, Aircraftkiller wastes many of the few free hours that he does have available to spend on RA:APB posting in forums to aggravate the never-ending RenAlert-Reborn conflict, creating artistic productions which are pretty but of no significance to the release of his modification, and announcing to his many fans that he has nothing to announe.
Reborn was once a very poorly-made mod. We'll never forget that firt release; the collisionless Refinery on that one map, driving vehicles around inside of buildings, the MCT that was a sound-sync board, and the high-resolution textures which were often largely devoid of realistic detail, etc. However, Reborn has come a long way, and they're on the verge of a new release whose quality will far surpass that of their prior release, and probably that of any modification yet released for Renegade. Yes, it's true that they're yet to release, but can we really doubt that they will, given their day-to-day productivity and progress towards completion? It's time to let go, Aircraftkiller. They've won this round. Your childish posts on this forum, I read them and you words seem hopelessly reminiscent of childhood bouts, with your accusations shown frivolous and silly, and your ultimate assault no more meaningful than a playground chant of "nya na nya na nya nya!"
I mean, seriously. First you accuse Exdeath of posting renders which are not in fact W3D Renders. To make matters worse, you instruct Reborn to "Get work in-game" - a piece of advice which would be infinitely more fitting if given to you rather than Reborn. Then, when they show that the renders were definitely W3D, you say that Exdeath took advantage of his hardware to make the W3D Renders; you accuse him of "slight-of-hand" to somehow fool people into thinking that Reborn had better graphics than they do in fact have. And now, when all your arguments about the renders and graphical quality have been broken down, and it's apparent that Reborn's innovation in the W3D engine far surpasses your own, and that their artistic quality is far superior to your productions for Renegade, in the countless hours you spent modifying Renegade since the day it was released, you're seemingly saying, 'Well, even if you do have better quality than I ever thought to imagine possible for W3D, you've still only got it for one building!! Hahaha, outwitted again!' Grow up, Aircraftkiller. Let it go!
Check out http://newhope.conquergaming.com to see the progress of the STARWARS mod for Renegade.
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| Re: CNC Reborn Update: Lightmaps [message #179379 is a reply to message #179269] |
Wed, 16 November 2005 12:18 |
Coolrock
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Red Alert: A Path Beyond
Renegade Alert
2 different things ^_~
As far as Red Alert: A Path Beyond goes, things are being worked on slowly. Is it wrong for Aircraftkiller to live his life? You think he made that excuse because "The team" hasn't gotten anything done lately?
[Updated on: Wed, 16 November 2005 12:25] Report message to a moderator |
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| Re: CNC Reborn Update: Lightmaps [message #179392 is a reply to message #179269] |
Wed, 16 November 2005 14:41 |
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is it any more wrong for them to live theirs?
Oderint, dum metuant.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. - Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
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| Re: CNC Reborn Update: Lightmaps [message #179394 is a reply to message #179269] |
Wed, 16 November 2005 15:00 |
FynexFox
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I am baffled as to why AircraftKiller cannot be proven wrong, or accept something that Reborn does. I am curious to know, does AircraftKiller have a chemical disbalance in his brain, that makes him self-centered and incapable of being proven wrong - or does he just enjoy being an ass?
Reborn - I think this is superb, your building and character-not to mention weapon textures are surley better than renalert's. This lighting is cool, I just hope everyone's card can handle it. Keep it up.
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| Re: CNC Reborn Update: Lightmaps [message #179396 is a reply to message #179269] |
Wed, 16 November 2005 15:07 |
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Mighty BOB!
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| Aircraftkiller wrote on Mon, 14 November 2005 15:23 |
We know what we do unlike you here... That's real literary genius folks. Top notch novel material. What's next on your comeback list... An excerpt from Engrish.com?
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It's his third language jerk.
"You know you've won an argument when people can't prove what they say, but choose to go for the personal attacks and ad-hominem without any supporting evidence." - Ack
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| Re: CNC Reborn Update: Lightmaps [message #179399 is a reply to message #179394] |
Wed, 16 November 2005 15:33 |
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| FynexFox wrote on Wed, 16 November 2005 16:00 |
I am baffled as to why AircraftKiller cannot be proven wrong, or accept something that Reborn does. I am curious to know, does AircraftKiller have a chemical disbalance in his brain, that makes him self-centered and incapable of being proven wrong - or does he just enjoy being an ass?
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Man, I had a gigantinc argument with ACK a few months ago about how it was not a fact that Reborn sucks. I tried to make him think that it was an opinion, but he kept on not beliveing me. Apparently he didn't want to be proven wrong.
w00t?
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| Re: CNC Reborn Update: Lightmaps [message #179411 is a reply to message #179269] |
Wed, 16 November 2005 16:18 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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What Coolrock meant to say is that he's an idiot.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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