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| Church of FSM [message #175124] |
Mon, 17 October 2005 16:15  |
runewood
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Funny site. realy makes a point.
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"Don't try to be a great man, just be a man. Let history make it's own judgments."
"Maybe its not the destination that matters, but the journey."
"How many people does it take before its wrong? A thousand? Fifty thousand? A million?"
"Im not here to tell you how it is going to end, Im here to tell you how it is going to begin."
"Its not the end or even the beggining of the end, mearly the end of the beggining."
"Logic is the beginning of wisdom; not the end."
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| Re: Church of FSM [message #175420 is a reply to message #175124] |
Wed, 19 October 2005 19:47  |
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I really don't mind if people disagree with the Intelligent Design theory or the movement to teach it in public schools. But to dis my God? Now I'm pissed.
I'm so sick and tired of this bullshit these people put out. They talk of themselves being wonderful, tolerant, and loving people, but their actions show otherwise. They're tolerant of everyone except those who follow Christ. Everyone's "tolerated" and "accepted" except us. But their lies are transparent. Robert Ingersoll, a non-believer, wrote that the church must ultimately be destroyed. This is their true goal. Don't be fooled by their sugar-coated words.
It doesn't surprise me though, Jesus said they are already antichrists in the world (1 John 2:18). We're in a war, but not with guns and tanks and bombs. This is a war for lives, the lives of everyone.
God is the "0wnage". Plain and Simple.
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| Re: Church of FSM [message #175433 is a reply to message #175420] |
Wed, 19 October 2005 20:41 |
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| MrBob wrote on Wed, 19 October 2005 22:47 |
I really don't mind if people disagree with the Intelligent Design theory or the movement to teach it in public schools. But to dis my God? Now I'm pissed.
I'm so sick and tired of this bullshit these people put out. They talk of themselves being wonderful, tolerant, and loving people, but their actions show otherwise. They're tolerant of everyone except those who follow Christ. Everyone's "tolerated" and "accepted" except us. But their lies are transparent. Robert Ingersoll, a non-believer, wrote that the church must ultimately be destroyed. This is their true goal. Don't be fooled by their sugar-coated words.
It doesn't surprise me though, Jesus said they are already antichrists in the world (1 John 2:18). We're in a war, but not with guns and tanks and bombs. This is a war for lives, the lives of everyone.
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The idea of tolerance with logic doesn't include the induction-based logic of religion and supernatural "superstition". Don't get me wrong, induction proves to me very concretely that God must exist, but that doesn't mean that say, the Bible or the Koran is any more legitimate then the information you'd find on a marijuana party site. The point is, the tolerance works *half decently* for the realist world of "this is what I see, and it is not any god that was outlined in some book of morality." Now that doesn't negate God's existence by any means, but it sure makes it easier for people to comprehend reality when they toss away the shackles of anthropomorphized dieties and senseless sophisms coming from a "religion authority".
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| Re: Church of FSM [message #175478 is a reply to message #175124] |
Thu, 20 October 2005 06:04 |
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That wikipedia article is VERY incomplete. I have plenty of OTHER reasons to not believe in "God".
I'm the bawss.
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| Re: Church of FSM [message #175592 is a reply to message #175507] |
Thu, 20 October 2005 15:43 |
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The question is not what you personaly beleave, its that ID isnt science and shouldnt be taught in science class. They don't say at church "some people think there is no god", and explain that, and if they do its to say these sinners will go to hell. I like how Christians are suddenly the victum...like 2000 years of relgious persicution by them isnt enough? You affend people and you don't even know it. When i sneeze and you say god bless you i get pissed. How would you like it if you sneezed and i said there is no god? Most christians are tolerable but some just piss me off so much.
Tolerant means that i don't persacute you or try to convert you like most relgions do. The extream people who follow Christ have done alot to ruin the name Christian. Why the hell shouldn't we hate those extreamists who do evil things? I am fine with you worshiping god aslong as you dont force it on me, even if you don't know it. And if you do i will call you out on it.
Religion conclusions based on faith, science is conclusions based on observations.
"Don't try to be a great man, just be a man. Let history make it's own judgments."
"Maybe its not the destination that matters, but the journey."
"How many people does it take before its wrong? A thousand? Fifty thousand? A million?"
"Im not here to tell you how it is going to end, Im here to tell you how it is going to begin."
"Its not the end or even the beggining of the end, mearly the end of the beggining."
"Logic is the beginning of wisdom; not the end."
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| Re: Church of FSM [message #175630 is a reply to message #175124] |
Thu, 20 October 2005 17:33 |
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Oh, please, you're just one of those idiots that seeks any chance you can get to be "offended", so you can go spouting off at the mouth about how much it "offends" you and why it "offends" you.
If I Say "God bless, you" when you sneeze, take it as being sincere not that I'm forcing my beliefs on you.
You want to bitch about how we persecute non-believers... go ahead, but I don't see us killing you like the Romans did to us. I don't see your life being ruined by our beliefs. If you want to talk persecution, learn up on your history, and then see who the REAL victims are, and I'll give you a little head start: it sure isn't the non-believers.
Also, the Creatonist theory is science, and that's why it should be taught. Tell me it's not science, and you've lost all credability... not that you had any to begin with.
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| Re: Church of FSM [message #175641 is a reply to message #175630] |
Thu, 20 October 2005 18:01 |
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Proves my point, you offend me without even knowing or caring. What abotu "Under god" "In god we trust" and such. Are you saying that that isnt offensive? Would you liek you kid saying everyday one nation, denying god?
Your religion does thier persicution under the radar, its slow, mothodical and worse then others. You slowly covert people to your beliefs over time like the Native Americans. The romans may have killed you but can they say they wiped out an entire culture? not even hitler could. You hear about how your church does help with things like relief, nice right? but wait, there is a catch. Look at the name of one of the orginizations, Christian Children's Fund. If you look at it who do they help? Christian children. During the Tsunami Disaster they talked about how lots of people were converting to christianity, why? So they can get the food your handing out. No this is much worse then anything the Romans did. You claim to care, but only if they join your relgion.
Right, because i say so is science...well I say FSM is a vaild scientific theory....
"Don't try to be a great man, just be a man. Let history make it's own judgments."
"Maybe its not the destination that matters, but the journey."
"How many people does it take before its wrong? A thousand? Fifty thousand? A million?"
"Im not here to tell you how it is going to end, Im here to tell you how it is going to begin."
"Its not the end or even the beggining of the end, mearly the end of the beggining."
"Logic is the beginning of wisdom; not the end."
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| Re: Church of FSM [message #175642 is a reply to message #175124] |
Thu, 20 October 2005 18:15 |
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No, you're just a little punk who gets offended over the stupidest shit because you don't have the common sense to look past the fact that it contains the words "Jesus", "God", "Christian", and "Christ". Do you even know the history as to WHY we have "Under God" and "In God We Trust"? Of course, not.
OH NOES! Christian-based organizations have the word "Christian" in their names, RUN FOR THE HILLS FOLKS, IT'S A MASS INVASION!!! We're not forcing people to convert to Christianity for food. If people feel that they have to convert to get food, then it's their fault for thinking that's what we require. Once again, you look past the OBVIOUS meaning of things and scrounge around to find something offensive about it.
Unlike FSM, Intelligent Design and Creation are real scientific theories with scientific studies on them. They're real issues tackled by real science, so why deny children from learning them? Are public schools afraid that the children may find some truth to them? How dare schools just force feed children one major theory without discussing others. Hell, even my Christian school taught me Evolution along with Creation.
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| Re: Church of FSM [message #175661 is a reply to message #175124] |
Thu, 20 October 2005 19:56 |
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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america, and to the republic for which it stands: one nation under the Flying Spaghetti Monster, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all
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| Re: Church of FSM [message #176009 is a reply to message #175661] |
Sun, 23 October 2005 07:37 |
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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america, and to the republic for which it stands: one nation saying god isnt real u dumb fucks, with liberty and justice for all. Better gbull?
When you involve god it is no longer science. Plain and simple. We don't have to nor are we supposed to teach all the main theorys. We are here to teach science and nothing else. If your shit isnt scince then we arnt going to teach it. If you cant deal with the fact that you kid is being taught FACTS then take him to a private school.
We put in god we trust and under god in to prove we were better then godless communism, im not dumb, despite most of you thinking I am.
"Don't try to be a great man, just be a man. Let history make it's own judgments."
"Maybe its not the destination that matters, but the journey."
"How many people does it take before its wrong? A thousand? Fifty thousand? A million?"
"Im not here to tell you how it is going to end, Im here to tell you how it is going to begin."
"Its not the end or even the beggining of the end, mearly the end of the beggining."
"Logic is the beginning of wisdom; not the end."
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| Re: Church of FSM [message #176012 is a reply to message #176009] |
Sun, 23 October 2005 07:52 |
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| runewood wrote on Sun, 23 October 2005 09:37 |
When you involve god it is no longer science. Plain and simple. We don't have to nor are we supposed to teach all the main theorys. We are here to teach science and nothing else. If your shit isnt scince then we arnt going to teach it. If you cant deal with the fact that you kid is being taught FACTS then take him to a private school.
We put in god we trust and under god in to prove we were better then godless communism, im not dumb, despite most of you thinking I am.
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How the Hell do you figure that? Simply because we add a spiritual being into the mix, that automatically means it's no longer science? It's called a THEORY (and just happens to be a religion). It IS a scientific theory, no matter how much your tiny mind may wish different.
We're not supposed to teach all the main theories? I'd love to see where your twisted mind gets all of this. If we don't teach the kids all the main theories, kids are going to be misinformed. Maybe that's one reason why today's world is getting stupider. They're only being taught half of what they need to know because we have your fucked up philosophy. Telling half the story is never any good. It's bias. If there are more than one theories, you should teach them and let the people choose what to believe rather than just making them believe in Evolution since Creationism is banned. That's just more fucked up thinking of today's society. OMG WE KANT TEECH KIDZ STUFF IN TEH BIBEL! THEY MAY AKTULLY BELEEVE IT AN MAKE A DECIZUN ON THERE OWN! I don't give a fuck what their parents want. It's not the parents' decision on what the kid is to believe or not. I'm going to want my children to accept the Christian faith, but I'm not going to force them to. That's just absurd.
If you understand its purpose, then what the fuck are you complaining about? They're just words. They're not going to make you melt. Get over your ego, and just say them. If you can't, just skip over them. Nobody's forcing you to say the pledge.
If you're smart, you obviously don't show it.
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| Re: Church of FSM [message #176014 is a reply to message #175124] |
Sun, 23 October 2005 08:08 |
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The difference between the scientific theories and the religious claims (which in essense, as far as "religion" go, are considered facts to them), which are actually merely theories, is that scientific theories can be tested for continuity. It's not possible (or easily possible) to do the same when you're trying to affirm something in the Bible.
It's easy to say and prove that God exists, but it isn't so easy to prove that the Bible is His truth, and is thus infallible. That's why I think that God absolutely SHOULD be taught in schools as a theory as much as the THEORY of conservation of energy/mass/momentum/etc. I, however, do not think that any type of theoretical morality should be taught outside a philosophy classroom; where the opinion of the matter is stressed, and no objectives are established. This allows people the reason their own morality based on what they know, and not what some pompous Vatican lacky in a big hat says morality is.
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| Re: Church of FSM [message #176036 is a reply to message #175124] |
Sun, 23 October 2005 11:08 |
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| Re: Church of FSM [message #176050 is a reply to message #176032] |
Sun, 23 October 2005 12:23 |
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| mrpirate wrote on Sun, 23 October 2005 12:45 |
| Javaxcx wrote on Sun, 23 October 2005 11:08 |
It's easy to say and prove that God exists...
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I am honestly interested to see this. Explanation/URL/something please.
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I would too
By your idea we need to teach FSM in school. God is not science. Untill science proves him he isnt science. There is no scientific edv at all the points to a god. We arnt here to teach your damn kid about god, its a fucking science class not church. We have no oblogation, nor should be be allowed to teach god. If my kid was in school, in science, learning about god id sue them. Point to me in one way god has ANY science to him.
"Don't try to be a great man, just be a man. Let history make it's own judgments."
"Maybe its not the destination that matters, but the journey."
"How many people does it take before its wrong? A thousand? Fifty thousand? A million?"
"Im not here to tell you how it is going to end, Im here to tell you how it is going to begin."
"Its not the end or even the beggining of the end, mearly the end of the beggining."
"Logic is the beginning of wisdom; not the end."
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| Re: Church of FSM [message #176062 is a reply to message #175124] |
Sun, 23 October 2005 13:11 |
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We can't prove the theory of Evolution either, idiot. By what you just said, we have absolutely no place to be teaching anything on the creation/beginning of the world as we know it because we can't prove it. Ever think as to maybe that's because it's a THEORY?
They wouldn't be teaching kids about God, you fucking twit. They'd be teaching kids about Creation. Sure, God is included in the discussion, but the lessons wouldn't be about God. They'd be about THE ORIGIN OF THE UNIVERSE. Is it really that fucking hard to understand?
Here's what you're implying. Say you're in a World History class. You're talking about World War II, and you mention Hitler as to what caused World War II. You're claiming that the class is teaching fascist ideals and doctrine simply because you're explaining how Hitler had influence in WWII. Sound ridiculous? It is. You're saying that because we're including God in a theory, we're somehow teaching religion to the kids and it's no longer about science.
You're wrong. You're a fucktard. Quit while you're ahead.
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