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| Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #175338 is a reply to message #175237] |
Tue, 18 October 2005 21:56   |
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I dont smoke or do drugs, and never will. I drink socially but i dont like getting drunk, not often at any rate.
smoking is a discusting habit/addiction. i dont like being around when people start smoking, it can kick start my asthma which sucks, one time my asthma was so bad, i had to goto hospital and stay on a machine for 2 hours, all because i was around smokers. I often have people like this at stations as commute to university everyday. Its annoying passengers that smoke on platforms and escalators annoy me.
To me, smoking is a slow, and can be a more painful way of committing suicide. People only do it to look cool, and once they have a few they get hooked.
I dont find girls that smoke attractive, its a real turn down, just like when every second word someone says is the 'F' word.
Smoking costs a person alot of money, a pack a day smoker is known to spend around 3000$ a year for cigarettes. Money that can go to MUCH better things. eg on your girlfriend, car, computer, investment, donating to BHS  etc.
everything goes brown and yellow after smoking for a long time, like your teeth as blazer said, also if people smoke inside, white or cream walls will turn a yellowy colour.
Its hard to quit as some people say, and why would someone play with their life like that, all the health problems you get from it, its not worth it.
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| Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #175343 is a reply to message #175237] |
Wed, 19 October 2005 00:11 |
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I generally drink like a fish on a night out. Now, don't misconceive that because I've never gotten into trouble, started a fight etc, while drunk... and I'll slit my own wrists before I drinkdrive. I smoke once in a blue moon, and I don't do drugs anymore, key word there is "anymore" because if I told you some of the stuff I used to do you probably wouldn't believe me.
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| Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #175353 is a reply to message #175237] |
Wed, 19 October 2005 05:49 |
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Sitting in front of the computer getting radiation from this crappy monitor is bad enough for me, marijuana is for people who can't seem to handle problems themselves and thus the commit a slow, very stupid and blundering suicide, and smoking in general makes people smell fairly bad. =\
No. Seriously. No.
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| Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #175355 is a reply to message #175237] |
Wed, 19 October 2005 06:15 |
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i don't smoke, drink, take drugs or something else like that.
i think that it all suck and is only waste of time, health and money... 
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| Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #175361 is a reply to message #175237] |
Wed, 19 October 2005 09:38 |
Spoony_old
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I think a better question is why would you question the logic of a person doing something when you've already admitted you've never done it yourself, therefore having absolutely no frame of reference.
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| Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #175362 is a reply to message #175237] |
Wed, 19 October 2005 09:51 |
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...don't smoke weeds...smoke tiberium...
Control the media, control the mind.(c)CABAL
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| Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #175363 is a reply to message #175360] |
Wed, 19 October 2005 09:54 |
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| Sir Phoenixx wrote on Wed, 19 October 2005 11:26 |
I don't smoke or drink alcohol, never did, nor do I ever want to.
(Why do people say they drink alcohol (and/or get drunk) to have "fun", when alcohol is a depressant?)
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Interesting because a few weeks ago when I drank, I was actually quite happy and having a good time. Not once did I feel depressed or filled with any sorrow, etc... that would be characteristic of a depressant.
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| Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #175364 is a reply to message #175361] |
Wed, 19 October 2005 10:05 |
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Javaxcx
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| Spoony wrote on Wed, 19 October 2005 12:38 |
I think a better question is why would you question the logic of a person doing something when you've already admitted you've never done it yourself, therefore having absolutely no frame of reference.
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Frame of reference is a pretty relative term. I don't drink, smoke, or any of that jazz and I can say quite easily off the top of my head that the antecedent imperative to do any of those things in almost ANY case (there are obviously exceptions) is selfish. I don't know about you, but I try to limit how selfish I am, and if that involves consciously refusing to have "fun" or any facsimile thereof, I will.
Besides, mind altering (I'm also fully aware that smoking cigarettes is not mind altering) is moronic.
As for the depressant schpiel. A depressant is a biological agent that causes motor control and other mechanisms in the body to slow in their rate of activity. It has nothing to do with psycological "sadness", although prolonged exposure to such agents could induce it. Alcohol is a vasodialectic, and also a mild sedative. It slows the rate of oxygen being absorbed into cells, nerve cells, brain cells and so on because it's so easily absorbed. I don't particularily want to slow down my reflexes, ability to think clearly, or put my body in a state of homeostatic instability just to have a good time. Frankly, I don't know why anyone would.
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| Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #175366 is a reply to message #175364] |
Wed, 19 October 2005 10:10 |
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| Javaxcx wrote on Wed, 19 October 2005 12:05 |
I don't particularily want to slow down my reflexes, ability to think clearly, or put my body in a state of homeostatic instability just to have a good time. Frankly, I don't know why anyone would.
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It's entertaining. You feel more relaxed and nothing can really bother you. Plus, it's fun to see how your slowed reaction time affects while playing video games. That's pretty much the reason why I drank 3 weeks ago, and it was awesome trying to play while intoxicated.
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| Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #175369 is a reply to message #175360] |
Wed, 19 October 2005 10:16 |
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| Sir Phoenixx wrote on Wed, 19 October 2005 12:26 |
I don't smoke or drink alcohol, never did, nor do I ever want to.
(Why do people say they drink alcohol (and/or get drunk) to have "fun", when alcohol is a depressant?)
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Exactly what i've been thinking of, not that I have something against drinking, but to have "fun" is just rather unlogical..
In my point of view.
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| Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #175370 is a reply to message #175237] |
Wed, 19 October 2005 10:56 |
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I am not as clean cut as some of you....I used to smoke...I started smoking when I was 13 becuase it helped make me popular in school, but I always promised myself that if i got pregnant I would quit, because it isnt JUST me i'm killing anymore...and when I found out i was pregnant last april I quit cold turkey, and better still I made my mother quit with me. We have both been smoke free for 18 months now (and niether of us are even tempted to start again)
I do drink Alcohol. I quit drinking it when i was nearly 20 (im nearly 22 now) because I used to get completely wrecked, start fights, wake up in the morning and not remember how i got there (although that occasion I think my drink was spiked...luckily I was with my friends who got me home) Now i just drink once a week and that's like 1 50ml measure of Baileys...so it's not exactly returning to my old habits.
I used to smoke pot when I was 14...I'm not proud of it, but I wont deny it. In my defense I disowned one of my friends who got me into pot when she started snorting coke...That was when I gave up the habit.
EDIT: Alcohol is a depressant yes, but it also removes your inhabitions...so say for example you wouldnt normally have a one night stand or start a fight or dance with a girl/guy or give someone your number, the chances of you doing all the above things are greatly increase. It can be a stimulant if you mix it correctly. It's the down that comes after it that makes it a depressant!
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| Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #175381 is a reply to message #175361] |
Wed, 19 October 2005 14:20 |
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| Spoony wrote on Wed, 19 October 2005 12:38 |
I think a better question is why would you question the logic of a person doing something when you've already admitted you've never done it yourself, therefore having absolutely no frame of reference.
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Thank you! It's really hard for someone who's never tried anything to comment on drug usage. Before I smoked, I thought it was awful.
To every person who said they have had alcohol but haven't and won't ever touch drugs: you're all idiots. Alcohol IS a drug. In fact, it's a harder drug than marijuana.
| mrpirate wrote on Wed, 19 October 2005 09:08 |
Anyone here ever smoke salvia?
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Twice. Both times were *alright*, but nothing really extraordinary. I don't intend on smoking salvia any time soon, but probably will try it again eventually.
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| Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #175382 is a reply to message #175237] |
Wed, 19 October 2005 14:21 |
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mrpirate
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I am no biologist, but I've done my research. Although the psilocybin and psilocin in mushrooms interferes with brain activity, both chemicals leave the body after a few days, and neither, as far as I am aware, has any lasting negative effects. Mushrooms are quite safe, given a proper set (one's mental condition at the time of tripping) and setting (where one trips). Obviously, there are risks, but they are minimal.
And no, I don't HAVE to do drugs, mushrooms or otherwise, but I choose to. It's an experience (especially with psychedelic drugs) that a sober person will never come close to.
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| Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #175386 is a reply to message #175237] |
Wed, 19 October 2005 14:48 |
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Javaxcx
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I'm glad you've done your research, because I shouldn't have to explain to you what neurotransmitters are being fucked with when you take those mushrooms. That is also assuming, of course, you're taking mushrooms that contain exactly and precisely only the two chemicals you've put forth.
If you know anything about homeostatis, then you should know full well what happens when the body is put into a stress or awkward situation. Psilocin will bump serotonin out of the dendrill and synapse nearly 100% of the time because it will completely flood the synaptic cleft when it is ingested. So where does that serotonin go? It either floods around looking blindly for other synapses, or gets converted into literally ANYTHING else it can bond to. For all you know, a toxin. You might as well consider it taking a serotonin suppliment, obviously a gross overdose, when you don't need one.
I think the real irony is that all of these "shrooms are safe" sites can't explain at ALL what happens when psilocin bonds to the synapses. I find it equally interesting to note that nothing seems to deal with the hallcination effect either. While I've never hullincated to my knowledge myself, I do know what happens during it. The eyes specifically start doing erratic things; firing at random intervals and releasing random bursts of colour that the brain can understand. You might call it "fun", but I would consider it to be a much more serious afflication. It is fortunate that like all neutransmitters, the psilocin is decarded in a relatively short amount of time, but it hardly justifies the chain reaction of UNKNOWN variables that comes as a result of you blocking the natural chemicals from going where they are designed to go.
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| Re: Anyone here smoke? [message #175389 is a reply to message #175237] |
Wed, 19 October 2005 15:15 |
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I like to drink, I love the feeling. I am not an alcoholic however. I am merely a weekend drinker and its not every weekend. I have never been in trouble because of it and anything. Smoked pot for a few months saw what it was doing to the people around me and completely stopped. Shrooms never tried never will. Cigs never. Cigars very very rarely only if I get a good one. Though I havent smoked one in about 6 months, so I think I am done.
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