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Open Appeal to Adad from Blackhand Studios [message #170011] Fri, 09 September 2005 01:47 Go to next message
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As most of your know, Adad is the one who wrote a script to "claim" all of the allocated FDS serials. According to most claims I've heard, he has anywhere from 10,000 up to 50,000 serials.

This post serves as an open appeal from BHS on behalf of the entire Renegade community, to hand over at least 1000 serials to Blackhand Studios, so that we may redistribute them to the community.

If you, forum visitors, support our efforts in this appeal, please post in this thread your support.

Thanks for considering our plea.

-Christine
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Re: Open Appeal to Adad from Blackhand Studios [message #170012 is a reply to message #170011] Fri, 09 September 2005 01:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I agree of course. Also note that due to Adads activities, people can no longer request FDS serials via the official method (there was a finite supply and he took them all).

If he would turn them over to BHS, we would put up a web application that would allow people to request and receive unique serials again.

Since he has literally thousands of them, I can think of no logical reason why he would not want to turn at least some of them over to us, hopefully he will do the right thing.


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Re: Open Appeal to Adad from Blackhand Studios [message #170017 is a reply to message #170011] Fri, 09 September 2005 02:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Why did he claim all of those serials? Just to be an ass or something?

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Re: Open Appeal to Adad from Blackhand Studios [message #170018 is a reply to message #170011] Fri, 09 September 2005 02:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I agree, i think he should hand atleast some over. I may not want or need to ever run a server, but that doesnt mean i dont think others shouldnt be allowed to.

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Re: Open Appeal to Adad from Blackhand Studios [message #170094 is a reply to message #170011] Fri, 09 September 2005 10:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What's to prevent someone from doing the same thing to your web app?


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Re: Open Appeal to Adad from Blackhand Studios [message #170098 is a reply to message #170094] Fri, 09 September 2005 11:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kanezor wrote on Fri, 09 September 2005 13:51

What's to prevent someone from doing the same thing to your web app?


Quite simple really. Limit the number or Serials one person can obtain.


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Aircraftkiller wrote on Wed, 31 May 2006 22:30

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Re: Open Appeal to Adad from Blackhand Studios [message #170107 is a reply to message #170094] Fri, 09 September 2005 11:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kanezor wrote on Fri, 09 September 2005 13:51

What's to prevent someone from doing the same thing to your web app?




As they've proved before, BHS is a bit more competent in terms of security and monitoring than EA was. EA wouldn't *care* you see, first of all.

I support this.
Re: Open Appeal to Adad from Blackhand Studios [message #170111 is a reply to message #170011] Fri, 09 September 2005 11:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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They could add ones of those word verification things to the registration page that uses an image with a simple word or combination of letters, you have to actually see the word, and type it in, that should fool the automatic scripts.

You could also make them have to reply to an e-mail before they can get the code, and block certain e-mail urls that are only active once so that you can reply to a registration e-mail, etc.,


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Re: Open Appeal to Adad from Blackhand Studios [message #170112 is a reply to message #170094] Fri, 09 September 2005 11:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kanezor wrote on Fri, 09 September 2005 14:51

What's to prevent someone from doing the same thing to your web app?



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Re: Open Appeal to Adad from Blackhand Studios [message #170115 is a reply to message #170011] Fri, 09 September 2005 12:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Why do you need FDS serials on a game that has more servers than players?

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Re: Open Appeal to Adad from Blackhand Studios [message #170125 is a reply to message #170011] Fri, 09 September 2005 12:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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As the others have said, I am a bit more competent. I have several ideas of how to prevent that sort of thing, and I will cross that bridge when we get there.

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Re: Open Appeal to Adad from Blackhand Studios [message #170126 is a reply to message #170115] Fri, 09 September 2005 12:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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xptek wrote on Fri, 09 September 2005 15:20

Why do you need FDS serials on a game that has more servers than players?

Re: Open Appeal to Adad from Blackhand Studios [message #170130 is a reply to message #170126] Fri, 09 September 2005 12:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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grnfusion wrote on Fri, 09 September 2005 15:40

xptek wrote on Fri, 09 September 2005 15:20

Why do you need FDS serials on a game that has more servers than players?



For S&G purposes probly. (Shits & Giggles.)


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Aircraftkiller wrote on Wed, 31 May 2006 22:30

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Re: Open Appeal to Adad from Blackhand Studios [message #170132 is a reply to message #170011] Fri, 09 September 2005 12:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The lack of FDS serials hasn't done a bit to stem the flow of morons running servers. I really hope you aren't honestly saying that it's right that someone has tens of thousands of serials that were intended for all of us to have access to.

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Re: Open Appeal to Adad from Blackhand Studios [message #170135 is a reply to message #170011] Fri, 09 September 2005 12:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's not wrong either, there's no reason for them
Re: Open Appeal to Adad from Blackhand Studios [message #170141 is a reply to message #170011] Fri, 09 September 2005 13:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I see quite a few morons in the FDS forum going "SERIALZ PLZ ZOMG1!," and it's nice not having them on WOL.

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Re: Open Appeal to Adad from Blackhand Studios [message #170145 is a reply to message #170011] Fri, 09 September 2005 13:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Please don't take the thread off on this tangent. It's true that we don't need any more servers, but using a script to "steal" thousands of them is NOT the way to go about stopping that. Furthermore, there could be 100 servers listed on WOL and it wouldn't make much of a difference. We're all still going to play where we like to play.

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Re: Open Appeal to Adad from Blackhand Studios [message #170465 is a reply to message #170011] Sat, 10 September 2005 01:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I removed all the off topics posts. Please stay on topic, this is not the place to discuss if BHS "has proven themselves in the past". Thank you.

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Re: Open Appeal to Adad from Blackhand Studios [message #170898 is a reply to message #170011] Sat, 10 September 2005 22:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Open Appeal to Adad from Blackhand Studios [message #170900 is a reply to message #170011] Sat, 10 September 2005 22:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i personaly wouldnt see any diffrence between adad and bhs having it..if i was a regular gammer *not one that hangs on forums* i wouldnt knjow about bhs serial system.. i would more likly pm a host asking if they knew eere to get one or if they had an extra..

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Re: Open Appeal to Adad from Blackhand Studios [message #170902 is a reply to message #170011] Sat, 10 September 2005 22:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This thread is not to bash Adad. What's done is done, we are just asking him nicely if he would donate a bunch of the serials to us so that we can make a web page for people to request them, in order to restore the abilit that people had before he took them all. If he wants we can even put "thanks to Adad" on the page if he wants...our only interest is to restore the communities ability to get FDS serials again.
Re: Open Appeal to Adad from Blackhand Studios [message #170903 is a reply to message #170011] Sat, 10 September 2005 22:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's very simple. Instead of PM'ing someone on the forums and hoping he eventually gives you one, you can use an automated system to request one from an unbiased source.

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Re: Open Appeal to Adad from Blackhand Studios [message #170905 is a reply to message #170900] Sat, 10 September 2005 22:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ben5015se wrote on Sun, 11 September 2005 01:04

i personaly wouldnt see any diffrence between adad and bhs having it..if i was a regular gammer *not one that hangs on forums* i wouldnt knjow about bhs serial system.. i would more likly pm a host asking if they knew eere to get one or if they had an extra..


So you are saying that the average person would more easily be able to find some random person (Adad) who had the FDS serials than if the link to the serial request page was posted on these forums and the renguard network MOTD and web site? That is unlikely.

Anyhow for all we know, Adad doesn't like random people coming to him all the time asking for serials...then again maybe he does...either way we just want to talk to him about it.
Re: Open Appeal to Adad from Blackhand Studios [message #170906 is a reply to message #170011] Sat, 10 September 2005 22:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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theres alot of people who dont check forums..but i used to ask host's everything.. look at how many people are on the forum's now or anytime.. and look at the players.. alot of players dont care about the forums...*

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Re: Open Appeal to Adad from Blackhand Studios [message #170909 is a reply to message #170011] Sat, 10 September 2005 22:34 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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You obviously didn't read the entire post. We can also post this location on the RenGuard home page and MOTD, which reaches many others. Also, most community leaders read the posts here and they can, in turn, post the link in their own forums.

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