| Re: How renegade 2 would have looked [message #168701 is a reply to message #167076] |
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Yea im personally happy with what we have here, the engine is very flexible and some people would be suprised of what it can handle , heck even the map i am making right now is going to hit over 100,000 and will eventually go up to 200,000 perhaps with all the trees, buildings, terrain etc.
Games like half life 2 really i dont see how people like it so much. Look at the vehicle physics in that game and it will make you realize that the game itself is all about looks, then the gameplay is forgotten about. Atleast renegade's vehicles physics are better then that and its a much older game. As well you get a very familiar problem when playing battlefield 1942 or bf2, when you drive over objects or into another vehicle, thats not very fun now is it warping over objects? lol.
I personally couldn't see myself moving to a new engine to map on, every other game i play is great for one thing then it sucks for the rest. Ren is very balenced thats why even if they made renegade 2 on the same engine i would pay full price for it.
The amount of hard work put into models and texturing is amazing and most people just brush it off as nothing, thinking that because its on the same engine that garuntees the same looks or playability. Heck i found that video itself showed some outstanding detail you would never expect to see in a game like this.
In theory you could make renegade look identical to even doom 3, with tons of work put into your texturing. Heck it already supports reflective materials, bump scale, the whole nine yards, what more does it need other then new aircraft physics lol.
Including a picture of some of the completed buildings i have for my map, most which have interiors. Only another 22,000 polygons to add hehehe.
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| Re: How renegade 2 would have looked [message #168734 is a reply to message #168701] |
Wed, 31 August 2005 11:33 |
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No way on earth can you compare Renegade's vehicle physics to those of HL2 - HL2 has a far more robust and flexible approach to physics.
As for making Renegade look like Doom3 - not a chance. Not unless you somehow manage to add full dynamic lighting to the engine.
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| Re: How renegade 2 would have looked [message #168769 is a reply to message #167076] |
Wed, 31 August 2005 16:56 |
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Renegade 2 was probably just an idea though up by some guy drawing on a napkin.
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| Re: How renegade 2 would have looked [message #168924 is a reply to message #168734] |
Thu, 01 September 2005 16:08 |
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| PiMuRho wrote on Wed, 31 August 2005 14:33 |
As for making Renegade look like Doom3 - not a chance. Not unless you somehow manage to add full dynamic lighting to the engine.
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Well yea i don't quite know about lighting, but im sure its pretty flexible within this engine. I myself still have alot to learn about setting up textures properly or lights, but im almost positive creating the genuine look of Doom3 in this engine can be done.
For the last few days ive been making a demo for myself to see if i can possibly create the effects used in doom, but as of now it is pretty hard to setup bump mapping and reflections right.
This is just a thing i did for fun using the w3d engine , so dont expect to see this as a map any time soon because it was mainly a test and is also 12,000 polygons.
Ok now i know the textures aren't the best, but this is just to show that making it look somewhat like higher end games really isen't impossible, but lighting the scene as doom would have i guess couldn't be done.
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| Re: How renegade 2 would have looked [message #168944 is a reply to message #168929] |
Thu, 01 September 2005 16:28 |
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| Aircraftkiller wrote on Thu, 01 September 2005 19:16 |
No matter what you do, it's never going to look like a high end game.
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Well thats what you think. I think almost all the newer games around these days just use more polygons, and have the usual bump , reflective mapping. Basically the engine also is a huge factor, but given that this is a 3 year old outdated one, there is still alot of things people never attempted, so im not sure how you could say it can NEVER look like a high end game.
Bf2 doesn't even have bump or reflective mapping other then the water itself, the rest of the detail comes with millions of polygons and a good engine to start with.
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