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| Re: Proxy [message #162415 is a reply to message #162413] |
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I very much doubt it will. It would mean that they would have to send your real ip. RenGuard on WOL checks that you are online by using your ip adress so im not sure this will be impleted and some peeps might try to cheat.
Let all your wishes be granted except one, so you will still have something to strieve for.
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| Re: Proxy [message #162417 is a reply to message #162413] |
Mon, 04 July 2005 00:46 |
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The next version will support a Proxy Server for it's HTTP operations where it is getting the server list.
The renguard connection itself will still require a real network connection.
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| Re: Proxy [message #234492 is a reply to message #234486] |
Sat, 16 December 2006 09:33 |
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| tlucas wrote on Sat, 16 December 2006 16:32 |
When will this new, proxy enabled version be released?
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next wednesday. it will be a hybrid anticheat for renegade and duke nukem forever.
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| Re: Proxy [message #234539 is a reply to message #162413] |
Sat, 16 December 2006 16:23 |
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I'm with Blazer, 0x90, you are an arse. A great big, irritating, immature, fucking stupid, idiotic, moronic fool. WHY EVEN BOTHER. You are sadder than any internet gamer. Get off your PC, and stay off it. You bastard.
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the hell is that?
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| Re: Proxy [message #234569 is a reply to message #234539] |
Sat, 16 December 2006 21:03 |
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| CarrierII wrote on Sun, 17 December 2006 00:23 |
I'm with Blazer, 0x90, you are an arse. A great big, irritating, immature, fucking stupid, idiotic, moronic fool. WHY EVEN BOTHER. You are sadder than any internet gamer. Get off your PC, and stay off it. You bastard.
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i dont really think that _this_ is with blazer. because you are impolite while blazer isnt.
i have never been impolite to your community or something so its really unfair talking to me this way!
initially i only wanted to proof that the current RG is useless and i hoped that you are going to release a new version soon. im really sorry that it went this way. i know this sounds stupid but im serious. blazer, i added you on msn. i would really like to talk to you seriously and without prejudice.
regards
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| Re: Proxy [message #234583 is a reply to message #234569] |
Sun, 17 December 2006 01:01 |
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| 0x90 wrote on Sat, 16 December 2006 22:03 |
i dont really think that _this_ is with blazer. because you are impolite while blazer isnt.
i have never been impolite to your community or something so its really unfair talking to me this way!
initially i only wanted to proof that the current RG is useless and i hoped that you are going to release a new version soon. im really sorry that it went this way. i know this sounds stupid but im serious. blazer, i added you on msn. i would really like to talk to you seriously and without prejudice.
regards
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Do Renegade a favour and stop trying to destroy it. Thanks.
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| Re: Proxy [message #234588 is a reply to message #234569] |
Sun, 17 December 2006 02:53 |
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| 0x90 wrote on Sat, 16 December 2006 22:03 |
| CarrierII wrote on Sun, 17 December 2006 00:23 |
I'm with Blazer, 0x90, you are an arse. A great big, irritating, immature, fucking stupid, idiotic, moronic fool. WHY EVEN BOTHER. You are sadder than any internet gamer. Get off your PC, and stay off it. You bastard.
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i dont really think that _this_ is with blazer. because you are impolite while blazer isnt.
i have never been impolite to your community or something so its really unfair talking to me this way!
initially i only wanted to proof that the current RG is useless and i hoped that you are going to release a new version soon. im really sorry that it went this way. i know this sounds stupid but im serious. blazer, i added you on msn. i would really like to talk to you seriously and without prejudice.
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with your skill level, even if RG 1.04 was released.. how long would it take it for you to crack it?
perhaps RG 1.03 was useless... but it was all that was needed to stop the random n00b.
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| Re: Proxy [message #234604 is a reply to message #162413] |
Sun, 17 December 2006 05:30 |
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I'm with nightma12 on this one. BHS could make a superb RG, being 200 % better than the current one, but there will always be a way of bypassing it. Internet security is just a big joke and most of the blame should go to the people that figured IP-adresses were long enough as they are, considering we're running out of them, so dynamic ip's have made an entrance.
You're clearly an intelligent person 0x90. I cannot believe your reasons to release cheats for Renegade would be the same as, e.g. someone like cyberpunk.
Feel free to add me on msn, I'll PM you my adress. Maybe we can have a chat. Or maybe not. We'll see.
You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord
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| Re: Proxy [message #234734 is a reply to message #162413] |
Mon, 18 December 2006 00:19 |
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In what surreal way is he "right"?
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| Re: Proxy [message #234804 is a reply to message #162413] |
Mon, 18 December 2006 12:41 |
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The sad truth is that *anything* on or in a computer system can by hacked, given enough skill and time to do so. It is impossible for RenGuard, or any other product, to stop someone with intimate knowledge of x86 assembly and the windows kernel. For example, the only other anti-cheat software that I know of, "PunkBuster" is routinely bypassed by a select few. Another example is Microsofts "Genuine Advantage". Yet another example is things like hacked XBoxes, hacked DirecTV satellite cards, etc. All of these are super-secure systems, yet they are often bypassed by people who have the skill to do so, but they also usually have a burning interest in the bypass. For the directv hackers, its free movies or porn, for xbox hackers, its free games.
As far as I know, 0x90 doesn't play Renegade at all, which is why I wondered what his motivation was in creating and distributing RenGuard bypasses. I have not talked to him on MSN yet, but I suspect that his motives may be simply to "force" us to make RenGuard better. Sadly though as I mentioned, no matter how good it is, someone like him can still get around it.
Note that this does not mean that RenGuard is useless. The average n00b gamer does not know x86 assembly, windows APIs, and certainly has no desire to hack their windows kernel just so they can load up some bigheads and cheat at Renegade.
RenGuard 1.04 goes a long way towards blocking things that 1.03 does not, as well as less bugs, more features, and complete compatibility with all systems. Someone like 0x90 will always be a problem though, as I said anything on a computer can be hacked, hopefully RenGuard can make it a pain in the ass enough that it stops 99.9% of the cheating. If things get out of hand we can always start doing weekly updates to RenGuard - the bypassers would have to spend considerably more time re-bypassing than it takes us to update and release, so the cat and mouse game will continue until they just give up and leave us in peace.
There are lots of other things that help too, like the development of server-side cheat detection (the server simply does not allow WeaponX to do more than Y damage). Having the cheat detection in the server instead of the client gives the hackers less to work with.
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| Re: Proxy [message #234879 is a reply to message #234813] |
Mon, 18 December 2006 18:09 |
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| 0x90 wrote on Mon, 18 December 2006 15:57 |
i also have to earn my money to pay my apartment and all the other bills since i also got a "normal" reallife.
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This is the part I have trouble believing...
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| Re: Proxy [message #235428 is a reply to message #234938] |
Fri, 22 December 2006 11:29 |
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| Cat998 wrote on Tue, 19 December 2006 10:52 |
| Eric3 wrote on Mon, 04 July 2005 07:13 |
Will be support RENGUARD PROXY servers? Or already supports? How him I shall compel so as went through port 8080? THX
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To come back to the topic, don't you just have to enable
it in the Internet explorer proxy settings ?
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this would only affect the display of the MOTD page (the top big part of renguard) since this loads via a "http request".
im sure this is more about connecting to the renguard master server via a proxy. this would be more a socks proxy than a http proxy anyways but.. i also doubt someone will add this feature, because it would be a built-in,easy possibility to 'hide' your real ip address.
and why should this be needed anyways? i dont know any situation where outgoing connections are blocked (until youre using it at home with your own, private internet connection). but even most internet connections in internet cafes or "at work" for example arent blocking outgoing connections.
it could be easily fixed by offering renguard service on a standard port which will most likely be allowed just like the http (80) or the https (443) port. (just if the BHS webserver and renguard server arent running on the same machine/hostname/ip)
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