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Re: FireOx | Opera [message #160583 is a reply to message #160581] Fri, 17 June 2005 23:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aircraftkiller wrote on Sat, 18 June 2005 02:17


3. All non-Internet Explorer browsers have trouble displaying certain pages. It's not just an Opera issue.

Are you saying that IE doesnt have trouble loading certain pages? Because if so, then i think i might have a problem with IE.


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Re: FireOx | Opera [message #160591 is a reply to message #160506] Sat, 18 June 2005 00:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Fact is that Internet Explorer stays the n° 1 browser for the simple fact that nor Opera, nor Firefox, nor any other can handle about all pages online, as you stated correctly. Use div's and BAAAAAAAM your site is Iexplorer-only (for correct view).

I can (not really but if I had teh knowledge) easely make faster browsers, just strip them from most functionnality and they will be fast... DUH

So the question is not which is the best: ff or opera, it it which looses the less functionnality while gaining speed. And that's most probably FF.


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Re: FireOx | Opera [message #160593 is a reply to message #160506] Sat, 18 June 2005 01:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Opera is faster than Firefuck. Didn't you read this thread at all?
Re: FireOx | Opera [message #160595 is a reply to message #160506] Sat, 18 June 2005 01:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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FireFox all the way.

I dont know about IE7 though, it might be alot better, ore maybe not.


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Re: FireOx | Opera [message #160597 is a reply to message #160506] Sat, 18 June 2005 01:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aircraftkiller

Firefuck


Did you think that one up all by yourself?

Also, the very site that you linked to prove that Opera is faster, shows Firefox as being faster in everything but a Javascript benchmark.

All the extra "abilities" that Opera has that you need plugins to use with Firefox are, frankly, pointless. Looking at his list, I can't see a single one that would be of any use to me at all.

So, aside from your opinion, why is Opera better than Firefox?


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Re: FireOx | Opera [message #160599 is a reply to message #160506] Sat, 18 June 2005 03:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I like Firefox a lot, it has a whole load of 'extensions' and themes for whatever you need, and the tab feature helps a load, but I'm going to try Opera now to see.

I can remember trying it before and not liking it very much though, from what I can remember the ad banner put me off.

(That is, if I can actually download Opera, the site is taking ages to load, and the download is going at 3 KB/sec Huh )
Re: FireOx | Opera [message #160600 is a reply to message #160538] Sat, 18 June 2005 04:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aircraftkiller wrote on Sat, 18 June 2005 01:02

Demo doesn't know what he's going on about, because all the extensions you have in Firefox have to be added to get functionality like Opera already has upon installation.

Not all the extensions firefox has are in opera (for example: Adblock, GooglePreview, Linky, and the Web Developer toolbar). Also I only want extensions I use so Opera prolly has crap I don't even want to have.

Opera also got an annoying banner.
Re: FireOx | Opera [message #160609 is a reply to message #160593] Sat, 18 June 2005 07:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aircraftkiller wrote on Sat, 18 June 2005 04:04

Opera is faster than Firefuck. Didn't you read this thread at all?


It could be me, but if I look at the browser comparison scheme, Firefox seems faster.

Startup time is 1 second faster, not that one second really is interesting, and CPU Time to load 20 pages is faster. I can't really see on what point it should be faster. It is better with javascipt tough.


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Re: FireOx | Opera [message #160610 is a reply to message #160581] Sat, 18 June 2005 07:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aircraftkiller wrote on Sat, 18 June 2005 02:17

No, you don't have to. Glyde is not the most reliable or intelligent person in here (More to the point he's dumb as hell) so he's doing that thing where he writes without backing up his posts with any facts.

So lets see here...

1. Opera is not software you have to pay for. It is completely free, but to remove the small advertisement banner (No bigger than 140x35 or so) requires you to purchase it. There is no functionality difference between the free and paid versions other than the advertisement banner (which is completely customizable to what you want to see), so it doesn't matter if you buy it or not.

2. Again, you shouldn't have to download "extensions" to get the features of a program like Opera. What Opera has should be standard on all browsers including Internet Explorer.

3. All non-Internet Explorer browsers have trouble displaying certain pages. It's not just an Opera issue.


Do you have your microphone enabled, because I get the feeling that the only thing that likes to listen to you is Opera.

Advertisments suck. It doesn't matter if you don't have to pay to keep them on. While there's a free version of Opera, why use that when you can get Firefox, which has more extensions than anyone will ever need?


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Re: FireOx | Opera [message #160612 is a reply to message #160506] Sat, 18 June 2005 07:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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After using firefox for 1 year, I have yet to find a website that doesn't load.

IE has serious security issues because of the simple fact that it is the most popular browser therefore more people try to find exploits.


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Re: FireOx | Opera [message #160616 is a reply to message #160506] Sat, 18 June 2005 08:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ACK, that site you posted makes me want to use Fox even more. Who cares how much memory it takes, as long as its faster.

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Re: FireOx | Opera [message #160617 is a reply to message #160616] Sat, 18 June 2005 09:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Meh,I have used Opera 2 years and I haven't found any pages that don't load so I dunno.

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Re: FireOx | Opera [message #160624 is a reply to message #160506] Sat, 18 June 2005 09:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I use Opera for the speed. It's even faster than Safari. And for christ's sake, just crack it and stop complaining about the ads.
Re: FireOx | Opera [message #160627 is a reply to message #160563] Sat, 18 June 2005 09:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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zgunner12 wrote on Fri, 17 June 2005 23:02

Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 17 June 2005 22:58

Why should you have to install loads of plugins, tweak the program for higher speeds, and do a bunch of other inane tasks because the program comes out inferior? Opera already browses the Internet in the best way possible without having to install a bunch of plugins and "extensions", which makes it easier for people to use while reducing headaches and search times that could be spent doing something productive.


Also it keeps all those pages in one(you know what I mean...) page so you don't have Firefox20^ or any of that


And I'm sure that Firefox doesn't do the same thing? Both browsers have tabbed browsing.


Re: FireOx | Opera [message #160628 is a reply to message #160506] Sat, 18 June 2005 09:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Opera has that by default. You need to press Ctrl-T in Firefox in order to do that.

WHATEVER, FAGGOT
Re: FireOx | Opera [message #160636 is a reply to message #160506] Sat, 18 June 2005 10:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The horror!

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Re: FireOx | Opera [message #160637 is a reply to message #160628] Sat, 18 June 2005 10:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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bigejoe14 wrote on Sat, 18 June 2005 12:59

Opera has that by default. You need to press Ctrl-T in Firefox in order to do that.

What do you mean? Firefox has tabbed browsing by default... Ctrl+T just opens a new tab.


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Re: FireOx | Opera [message #160638 is a reply to message #160506] Sat, 18 June 2005 10:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Or middle-clicking a link. Or ctrl-clicking it.

Re: FireOx | Opera [message #160641 is a reply to message #160506] Sat, 18 June 2005 11:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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http://www.avantbrowser.com/

This is my current web browser. Has everything that was mentioned for Firefox and Opera. I'm not going to go into a whole argument about which is better, but just try out Avant, and then choose which is best.


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Re: FireOx | Opera [message #160647 is a reply to message #160506] Sat, 18 June 2005 11:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Doesn't that use IE...?

I have Netscape, Deepnet, Firefox, Opera (paid), and IE... so..


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Re: FireOx | Opera [message #160648 is a reply to message #160506] Sat, 18 June 2005 11:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: FireOx | Opera [message #160650 is a reply to message #160593] Sat, 18 June 2005 12:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aircraftkiller wrote on Sat, 18 June 2005 04:04

Opera is faster than Firefuck. Didn't you read this thread at all?

I read the thread but u didn't seem to have read my post.


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Re: FireOx | Opera [message #160653 is a reply to message #160506] Sat, 18 June 2005 15:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Advertisments suck. It doesn't matter if you don't have to pay to keep them on. While there's a free version of Opera, why use that when you can get Firefox, which has more extensions than anyone will ever need?


Advertisements are what keeps the Internet running free for the most part. Without advertisements, everything would be a paid service and you'd be unable to see much of anything unless you shelled out $5+ per website just to view its content, in addition to your ISP rates.

Extensions do not a browser make. Opera already has what Firefuck needed to begin with. It loads websites faster, and doesn't have memory problems like Firefuck does... The whole "minimize it and it unloads all memory, just to take a while to reload again" problem.

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Who cares how much memory it takes, as long as its faster.


Uhh... Generally when something requires more memory, it's not going to allow your computer to operate as fast as it should.
Re: FireOx | Opera [message #160656 is a reply to message #160653] Sat, 18 June 2005 16:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aircraftkiller wrote on Sat, 18 June 2005 18:32


Uhh... Generally when something requires more memory, it's not going to allow your computer to operate as fast as it should.


X Wrong answer, ditchwitch.

Generally, when something requires more memory, it means it's a larger program, that's about it.

About the only time it would cause any type of performance issue is if you had 1MB of available memory left and the extra two FireFox used would throw you out to the page file.. If that were the case, FF is the least of your problems.

You're still a retard, generally speaking of course.
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Aircraftkiller wrote on Sat, 18 June 2005 18:32

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Advertisments suck. It doesn't matter if you don't have to pay to keep them on. While there's a free version of Opera, why use that when you can get Firefox, which has more extensions than anyone will ever need?


Advertisements are what keeps the Internet running free for the most part. Without advertisements, everything would be a paid service and you'd be unable to see much of anything unless you shelled out $5+ per website just to view its content, in addition to your ISP rates.

Extensions do not a browser make. Opera already has what Firefuck needed to begin with. It loads websites faster, and doesn't have memory problems like Firefuck does... The whole "minimize it and it unloads all memory, just to take a while to reload again" problem.

Quote:

Who cares how much memory it takes, as long as its faster.


Uhh... Generally when something requires more memory, it's not going to allow your computer to operate as fast as it should.


We get enough advertisments on the Internet. We don't need them in our browsers.


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