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| Should ACK be banned? [message #151344] |
Mon, 25 April 2005 06:36   |
Jzinsky
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OK then.
Tell me: What is ACK's reason for coming here to annoy people?
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Did you ever go on irc to seeif you could get banned? Did you ever laugh because people were getting annoyed at you? I did when I first got the internet. Iwas young then, he's still doing the same thing.
He's not going to get banned, get over it. I appreciate that he really pisses a lotof you guys off, but I do also realise that everyone responds. The moment he posts something it turns into a flamewar. If his comments sway off topic, ignore them.
I like the way that he's even managing to laugh at this now by posting using only his last page of previous posts, the link to which was posted on here. Look at this, a 4-page thread on getting him banned, and how early on did you say he will not get banned Crimson?
No flashy signature..
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| Should ACK be banned? [message #151347] |
Mon, 25 April 2005 07:20 |
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Crimson
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It's not favoritism... I didn't and haven't banned deadfive for posting twelve million topics about his stupid website. I constantly let Vitaminous be an ass and a useless member of the forums without banning him, and I really don't like the guy at all. I let SuperFlyingLiberal stay on here even though I think he's an idiot and a waste of perfectly good oxygen. It's NOT favoritism. I don't feel it's really my place to ostracize anyone, especially the game's most prolific map maker, from the closest thing to the "official" community that we have left, unless they blatantly break the rules.
Do I wish he would stop the childish, constantly, quite OLD derailing of topics for asinine reasons? You bet I do, and my hints like changing his nickname haven't helped a bit. I don't know when he'll get the message.
I'm the bawss.
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| Should ACK be banned? [message #151349] |
Mon, 25 April 2005 07:27 |
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I didn't and haven't banned deadfive for posting twelve million topics about his stupid website. I constantly let Vitaminous be an ass and a useless member of the forums without banning him, and I really don't like the guy at all. I let SuperFlyingLiberal stay on here even though I think he's an idiot and a waste of perfectly good oxygen.
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No mention of my page announcements? I must be getting slack.
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| Should ACK be banned? [message #151352] |
Mon, 25 April 2005 07:51 |
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Crimson
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Sorry, though most women may do that, I don't keep a sharp memory of all the bad things people do here.
I'm the bawss.
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| Should ACK be banned? [message #151353] |
Mon, 25 April 2005 08:16 |
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Do I wish he would stop the childish, constantly, quite OLD derailing of topics for asinine reasons? You bet I do, and my hints like changing his nickname haven't helped a bit. I don't know when he'll get the message.
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Swing the ban hammer. Maybe that could help shake him up a little.
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| Should ACK be banned? [message #151356] |
Mon, 25 April 2005 08:31 |
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When a kid steps out of line you smack them on the butt and demand that they stop their behavior, you don't pass the blame on to those around them because then YOU are becoming the enabler. If you have no desire to enact consequences for actions because the offender is a friend, simply say that instead of pretending that it's everyone else's fault. At least then everyone will know where you stand and can shut up and move along.
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I quite agree with you here, on the official forums people got banned for this but the moderators didn't know who they were banning. They just knew they were fans of the game who were being jerks. creed said he got back in under a different name and was allowed, but the original idea is there: someone steps out of line, they get banned. The argument of favouritism: I think it exists everywhere; in work, school, college. I know it exists in my workplace anyway. But can you really blame the admin for being more of a friend than an "all powerful admin" when they were previously a member of the official forum and got to know people there.
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| Should ACK be banned? [message #151359] |
Mon, 25 April 2005 09:01 |
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Toolstyle
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You know, I only had to respond once here for it to become a three page thread.
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This topic would have become a 3 page topic (4 now obviously) if you'd posted or not. Try to remember you're not THAT special.
Anyway I don't think he should be banned, he's funny. Makes me laugh.
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That's irrelevant to this thread.
Common fallacies of logic and rhetoric:
Ad hominem - attacking the arguer and not the argument.
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| Should ACK be banned? [message #151368] |
Mon, 25 April 2005 11:11 |
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Are we forgetting he made Glacier? Come on now, that was obviously a slap in the face to the Renegade community.
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| Should ACK be banned? [message #151372] |
Mon, 25 April 2005 11:15 |
Spoony_old
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Are we forgetting he made Glacier? Come on now, that was obviously a slap in the face to the Renegade community.
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Glacier's actually a good map for clanners if you ignore the glitches it's riddled with. Compared to Islands or Hourglass, anyway.
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| Should ACK be banned? [message #151393] |
Mon, 25 April 2005 14:02 |
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I also don't agree with this idea that it's everyone else's fault but Aircraftkiller's. I mean from what I can tell, one thing that we're all agreed on is that we think it's stupid behaviour and we'd rather it didn't happen, right? Well, most of us at least. Anyway, even if we did as has been suggested and ignore him, what is to stop him from continuing regardless? Besides which, from my perspective, the people who are asking him to stop are doing because of a desire to see the forum function in a pleasant and civilised manner. Aircraftkiller is posting out of a desire to annoy people just because he can... and also I assume because he doesn't care about the consequences of his actions with regards to other people. So run this by me one more time... it's perfectly acceptable for Aircraftkiller to act like he does, but everyone else is in the wrong for behaving like a good society does... and that would be trying to enforce what is the generally accepted code of conduct (i.e. morality, treating people with respect, whatever you want to call it)? I didn't realise that when we think something is wrong we should just ignore it because it will go away on it's own.
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| Should ACK be banned? [message #151403] |
Mon, 25 April 2005 14:32 |
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That, and if you sit back and look at these little flamewars, they're actually quite amusing. Amusing in that people have been getting into stupid arguments with ACK since Ren came out, and probably before that, and they STILL haven't learned to just ignore him. Which is even more incredibly fucking pathetic considering that there's an ignore feature now. And when something is THAT pathetic, one just can't help but laugh their ass off at it. :rolleyes:
"Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. Horrid mischief would ensue were (the law-abiding) deprived of the use of them." - Thomas Paine
Remember, kids: illiteracy is cool. If you took the time to read this, you are clearly a loser who will never get laid. You've been warned.
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| Should ACK be banned? [message #151406] |
Mon, 25 April 2005 14:38 |
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NukeIt15
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These forums haven't been "clean and relatively friendly" since...ever.
"Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. Horrid mischief would ensue were (the law-abiding) deprived of the use of them." - Thomas Paine
Remember, kids: illiteracy is cool. If you took the time to read this, you are clearly a loser who will never get laid. You've been warned.
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| Should ACK be banned? [message #151430] |
Mon, 25 April 2005 15:30 |
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Crimson
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He's not going to be around until May 6th (supposedly) -- so we get a reprieve anyway.
I'm the bawss.
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| Should ACK be banned? [message #151432] |
Mon, 25 April 2005 16:05 |
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warranto
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Warranto: Instead of telling everyone it's their fault for not being able to ignore it, why not at least publicly tell Ack to shut the fuck up and knock it off? Remember that thread we had a while back regarding favoritism? This to me is a shining example. Instead of passing the blame on to everyone else that can't ignore him, why not admonish the person responsible for their actions, and let them know that it really isn't appreciated? Like I said, your passive acceptance to the behavior is more enabling than any response to his posts could ever be.
So the question is, is everyone who hates the game allowed to just stick around here and be a prick on purpose? or only friends.
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Why do I suggest that it is their fault? Perhaps because it IS their fault. This is a forum where words must be written to respond. If it were completely verbal, it would be much more difficult to have someone hanging around mentioning stuff. In such a case, I'd be more than happy to tell him to shut up. However, thanks to the wonders of modern technology, there is an "ignore button". If you don't want him to interrupt topics, hit that button. It's quite simple.
It takes two to start a "fight" (or in this case, detract from the topic), if Aircraftkiller is to be blamed for it, then so is everyone who entices it to continue. The blame goes both ways here. Since you enjoy bringing up events from real life and applying them to this, Imagine that "bully" who keeps stating "Common, fight me!", over and over again. The only way a fight is going to occur, is if someone acts on that. Sure, that bully may be to blame for enticing someone to the fight, however just as much blame goes to the person who decided to fight.
Heck, if you actually WANT me to though, I could start showing favortism. Perhaps then you'll have at least a valid claim to complain about. Until then, get off this elevated position you have given yourself, and realize that YOU are as much to blame for your off-topic comments regarding Aircraftkiller as he is for starting the "fight".
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| Should ACK be banned? [message #151434] |
Mon, 25 April 2005 16:28 |
msgtpain
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If ACk is openly allowed (no fault) to post negative responses to any topic he desires with no consequences, I'm having a hard time seeing how anyone that responds to him is at fault for their actions.. Please explain.
Oh, and if you need to jump on my "high horse" and prove you can play favorites, go right ahead.
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In such a case, I'd be more than happy to tell him to shut up. However, thanks to the wonders of modern technology, there is an "ignore button". If you don't want him to interrupt topics, hit that button. It's quite simple.
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So let me get this straight.. just so there is no missinterpretation on my part. If we were talking face to face, what ACK constantly does would warrant (no pun intended) a response of "shut up" from you. However, since we have another feature called "ignore", it is our fault if he continues, and there is no reason for you to tell him to "shut up".. Did I get that right? Since we're in to "real world examples" lets have another.. If my daughter sees a mans 10 inch erect cock on the side of the road, it's her fault for looking at it, and we should just ignore the person standing there nude, after all.. she has a neck, she should use it.
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If he would just loosen up a little bit & accept other's flaws & informalities, then he would be very cool. He just needs a little social polishing...that's all.
