| How did this get passed? [message #146484] |
Tue, 29 March 2005 17:09  |
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IRON FART
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http://www.alligator.org/pt2/050323freedom.php
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Similar suits could be filed by students who don’t believe astronauts landed on the moon, who believe teaching birth control is a sin or even by Shands medical students who refuse to perform blood transfusions and believe prayer is the only way to heal the body, Gelber added.
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Fucking joke.
I suppose this means that students who don't believe the holocaust took place could sue professors too, right?
EDIT: This only applies to the state of Florida, not the whole country. Just to avoid confusion.
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| How did this get passed? [message #146497] |
Tue, 29 March 2005 17:46  |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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Because neocons want a fascist regime.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| How did this get passed? [message #146500] |
Tue, 29 March 2005 17:56 |
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rm5248
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The only thing that has any logic is if Professors are teaching thoerys as facts... Such as the thoery of Evolution... But the rest of that makes no sense whatsoever.
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| How did this get passed? [message #146512] |
Tue, 29 March 2005 19:01 |
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IRON FART
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To those people who still do not believe in evolution:
Get with the program.
I find it funny that in this day and age, people cling on to what the bible says and interpret it so literally that any possibility of evolution is considered rubbish.
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| How did this get passed? [message #146518] |
Tue, 29 March 2005 19:16 |
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IRON FART
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@Cow's post
LOL
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I'll believe what I want, and you believe what you want. In the end we will see who's right and who's wrong.
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Well maybe not. Darwin proposed the theory in the 1800's. Who knows how long it will take to be accepted. It probably won't happen in our lifetime.
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| How did this get passed? [message #146537] |
Tue, 29 March 2005 19:43 |
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U927
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Please understand that while most of Florida is made up of hicks with spitoons who live near the swamps, some of us living in the cities are a little bit more educated and can make better decisions.
Just a disclaimer.
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then, is not an act but a habit. - Aristotle
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| How did this get passed? [message #146573] |
Tue, 29 March 2005 22:36 |
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NukeIt15
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Awww...stop ripping on Florida. I WISH I lived in Florida. Or, I'm looking forward to going to college there, because New Jersey sucks donkey nuts. You'll find morons no matter where you go, it's just what they happen to be bitching about at any given time. Trust me, things are as fucked up everywhere else as they are down there, and probably more so in NJ. Definitely more so in NJ. DAMN.
And yeah, this is a dumb idea. As if lawsuits weren't a big enough problem in our country's fucked up legal system, now you can sue your profs and teachers for teaching you things you don't want to learn about. Just think...a world where you can sue your math teacher because you don't believe you should learn math... hard cold fact: being taught about something doesn't mean you're being indoctrinated, just informed.
Now, there are some teachers and profs out there that abuse their positions, yeah...but giving the whole profession crap like this to deal with because of the actions of a few assholes is just plain retarded.
"Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. Horrid mischief would ensue were (the law-abiding) deprived of the use of them." - Thomas Paine
Remember, kids: illiteracy is cool. If you took the time to read this, you are clearly a loser who will never get laid. You've been warned.
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| How did this get passed? [message #146589] |
Wed, 30 March 2005 00:11 |
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If a conservative like old-day morals and values, then what the fuck is a "neo"/new conservative anyway? And what the hell does that have to do with a stupid law allowing people to sue for being taught about things they didn't want to learn? Does that mean I can sue my ex-boyfriend for telling me he was sleeping with my sister because I didn't want to know about it? Stupid! (And yes, I made that up)
I'm the bawss.
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| How did this get passed? [message #146654] |
Wed, 30 March 2005 09:38 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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"Neoconservatism" is ironic. "Neoconservaties" are not conservatives whatsoever. I don't know who invented this new buzz word but they're an idiot. You can't be a neo-conservative because that goes against all conservative values... It's like calling a conservative a Communist, two different idealogies.
Don't forget that fascism as we know it today was started by Adolf Hitler and his National Socialist party. Hitler was a liberal in today's views, and so was his Nazi party. Fascism is a liberal invention, and saying "neoconservatives" are fascists is like saying a donkey is an elephant.
If anything, people like SuperFlyingEngie are fascists.
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Why, yes, it would be hard to have modern conservatives, if "neocons" followed traditional political concepts and values at all. The majority of the Republicans in the last 15-20 years are conservative by name only. Hence neocon.
Just so you know, fascism was really started by Benito Mussolini, with the creation of the Fascist Party in 1919, which Hitler then copied. Mussolini was a socialist as well, but the point is irrelevant. While fascist nations may be founded on liberal ideas of progress, they don't hesitate to recognize themselves as anti-liberal. Fascists before World War II in Italy and Germany were undoubtedly anti-Communist.
If anything, neocons are trying to develop fascism in America. Let's go over a definition...
Fascism - a political system headed by a dictator that calls for extreme nationalism[a] and racism[b] and no tolerance of opposition.[c]
[a] - How many times have you heard "It's unpatriotic to criticise the president during times of war..." and other talking points along those lines? I mean, look no further than Nodbugger and cowmisfit.
[b] - What's with the huge anti-Gay movement all of a sudden? Exact same thing happened in Nazi Germany with the Jews, America just doesn't have an absolute dictator yet, although George Bush is twisting the Secret Service more and more into his brown shirts, what with them arresting protestors at his events and hustling them out as fast as possible [The secret service doesn't actually have this power] And speaking of rascism, what about the direct link between concentration camps and American interrogation centers like Guantanamo Bay and Abu Ghraib? Instead of Jews, we're persecuting Arabs. Hitler never had any concentration camps in Germany, they were in Poland. And with good reason, just like now.
[c] - Look no further than this bill right here. Fascism, however liberal it may be, has a desire to repress liberal ideas, and this bill is just one example of that. And now, if the media even tries to be centrist, they are quickly denounced as being far left. Look at when the New York Times ran a story above the fold about 350 tons of RDx going missing in Iraq. 350 tons of one of the most powerful conventional explosives known to man is pretty important, isn't it? And for this one story, ACK here denounced it as the media going "apeshit" over this story. It only ever appeared in mainstream TV media with phony-baloney stories after it about how there were never any explosives there anyways. Rathergate is another example. I like how, when George Bush denounced Putin about shutting down a news organization, Putin responded, "Why do you say these things? We did not denounce you when you had Dan Rather fired." <-- Not exact words, but the point remains.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| How did this get passed? [message #146658] |
Wed, 30 March 2005 10:00 |
flyingfox
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doh!
I wish I was a lion, or a bear, and I would not have to put up with these politics. The only politics I'd have, are what the best way to kill a bunny rabbit is. etc..
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| How did this get passed? [message #146778] |
Wed, 30 March 2005 20:10 |
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Hydra
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The bill is a bad solution to a real problem.
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hard cold fact: being taught about something doesn't mean you're being indoctrinated, just informed.
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Cold hard fact: many (I would venture to say the majority) of today's state university professors attempt to indocrinate their students with extremely liberal or even communist doctrine and eliminate opposition to their views from the students, usually by failing the student because he presents an opposing view. These professors receive payment from taxpayer dollars, yet they actively eliminate opposition to their own views.
Academic freedom is very hard to come by in one of today's state universities.
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Now, there are some teachers and profs out there that abuse their positions, yeah...
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That's the understatement of the year. 
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but giving the whole profession crap like this to deal with because of the actions of a few assholes is just plain retarded.
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"Because of the actions of a few assholes" is another understatement. True, this law may be one of the worse ways to deal with the problem, but you can't say it doesn't exist because, well, it does.
Walter Keith Koester: September 22, 1962 - March 15, 2005
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| How did this get passed? [message #146779] |
Wed, 30 March 2005 20:12 |
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U927
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More educated and make better decisions. Ah like the educated judges who are starving a woman to death. Ahh be amazed at florida.
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You mean the judges of a dominantly-Republican state?
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then, is not an act but a habit. - Aristotle
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