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Schiavo Situation [message #145795] Sat, 26 March 2005 11:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just another reason why my proposal to follow every person on earth with a flying camera would save the day. Then we'd know exactly what she said on the subject.

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Schiavo Situation [message #145796] Sat, 26 March 2005 12:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Fuck conservatives. They are all religious fanatic idiots.

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Schiavo Situation [message #145797] Sat, 26 March 2005 12:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Can someone please give a logical reason to kill her off that doesn't include the irrelevant statement of "I wouldn't want to live that way".


They say she's in deep depression because of her state, and (obviously) she can't do anything about it. She's already been in that state for a number of years, and keeping her alive would just prolong that depression.

Mind you, I have no clue how they figured out that she's depresses, but thats a different story.


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Schiavo Situation [message #145801] Sat, 26 March 2005 12:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Breathing is not an involuntary action.


You failed at Biology.


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Schiavo Situation [message #145802] Sat, 26 March 2005 12:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hmm, if it wasn't involuntary then the population would have ended just as it started.

Schiavo Situation [message #145803] Sat, 26 March 2005 12:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You can't argue that it wont hurt her to starve her because she cant feel, then use the fact that she FEELS depressed as one of your reasons for starving her. That's not even circular logic, that's just stupid.

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Schiavo Situation [message #145804] Sat, 26 March 2005 12:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Can someone please give a logical reason to kill her off that doesn't include the irrelevant statement of "I wouldn't want to live that way".


They say she's in deep depression because of her state, and (obviously) she can't do anything about it. She's already been in that state for a number of years, and keeping her alive would just prolong that depression.

Mind you, I have no clue how they figured out that she's depresses, but thats a different story.


So then she isn't really braindead because she can feel something and convey it. If this were true, then straving her would be like starving a child with Down's Syndrome because they can't cure it and the child is stuck with it.



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Schiavo Situation [message #145806] Sat, 26 March 2005 13:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When you're awake/conscious, breathing isn't involuntary, when you're asleep/unconscious it's involuntary. Because of this, a kid who tries to hold his breath until he gets what he wants can't suffocate himself, once he loses consciousness from holding his breath (if he holds it that long) he'll start breathing again involuntarily.

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Schiavo Situation [message #145834] Sat, 26 March 2005 15:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you're so mentally incapacitated that breathing and starring at a balloon is all you've got going for you...

Who WOULD want to stay alive?
Schiavo Situation [message #145835] Sat, 26 March 2005 15:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you're so mentally incapacitated that breathing and starring at a balloon is all you've got going for you...

Who WOULD want to stay alive?


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Schiavo Situation [message #145836] Sat, 26 March 2005 15:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't see why your standard of living has anything to do with what Terri would want.
Schiavo Situation [message #145837] Sat, 26 March 2005 15:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you're so mentally incapacitated that breathing and starring at a balloon is all you've got going for you...

Who WOULD want to stay alive?


It doesn't matter. No one can say what she would want but her. If she cannot, then it is unfortunate, but still no one can say what she wants.



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Schiavo Situation [message #145840] Sat, 26 March 2005 15:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Schiavo Situation [message #145841] Sat, 26 March 2005 15:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Does your signature actually align me with Nazi fascists?


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Schiavo Situation [message #145848] Sat, 26 March 2005 16:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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To cowmisfit:

Does your signature actually align me with Nazi fascists?


I would bet his signature depicts his opinion of the situation.. If you align yourself with it, that would be your problem, not his.
Schiavo Situation [message #145901] Sat, 26 March 2005 18:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't see this issue as a Republican/Democrat thing... only certain brain dead psychotics can align a woman's life with a party line.

I am pretty undecided on it. I am certain that allowing her to starve to death is NOT the way to go, but as retarded as it is, it's the only legal way to end her life.

Would I want to live that way? Probably not... but then again would I want to die if I knew that 16 years down the road I was going to be back to normal? It's a tough question. (And no, I'm not saying that Terri can recover... who knows?)


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Schiavo Situation [message #145909] Sat, 26 March 2005 19:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oddly enough, the only way I can possible see Schiavo recovering to any extent from her brain condition is through stem cell research, oh so vehemently opposed by the same people who oppose ending Schiavo's body after the brain is already gone. And even then, it's quite a long shot. But stem cells will be the miracle medicine once we get the religious fanatics out of the offices they don't belong in.

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)

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Schiavo Situation [message #145910] Sat, 26 March 2005 19:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I see nothing wrong with stem cell research to a point.

Schiavo Situation [message #145916] Sat, 26 March 2005 20:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oddly enough, the only way I can possible see Schiavo recovering to any extent from her brain condition is through stem cell research, oh so vehemently opposed by the same people who oppose ending Schiavo's body after the brain is already gone. And even then, it's quite a long shot. But stem cells will be the miracle medicine once we get the religious fanatics out of the offices they don't belong in.


Cool, now you're a 15 year old PhD. Sweet.


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Schiavo Situation [message #145917] Sat, 26 March 2005 20:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I see nothing wrong with stem cell research to a point.


Care to define that point?

Crimson

Cool, now you're a 15 year old PhD. Sweet.


Nope, still 14 for another 2 months. But my dad is a huge science buff, and I can't help but live under his roof.


"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)

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Schiavo Situation [message #145922] Sat, 26 March 2005 21:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Terri Shiavo has been braindead for over a decade. The pretend rumor that she hasn't is a lie perpetuated by Republicans in the media in an effort to create yet another wedge issue of morality.



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What they, and Terri's family have done, is rob the husband of an incredible sum of money keeping a body without a brain on life support.


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Letting the body die from lack of sustenance is not morally wrong to me, since there is no brain to suffer from it. Even if there were, she's under so many drugs she would feel nothing anyways.



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Nope, still 14 for another 2 months. But my dad is a huge science buff, and I can't help but live under his roof.


I'll type up my response to this after my head stops pounding from the bullshit it just read.


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Schiavo Situation [message #146029] Sun, 27 March 2005 14:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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j_ball430

I see nothing wrong with stem cell research to a point.


Care to define that point?

No, not really. I just wanted to state that I don't really see anything wrong with stem cell research up until a point. All that was meant for was to prove your assumption wrong.


Schiavo Situation [message #146030] Sun, 27 March 2005 14:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Huge science buff != PhD

This is stupid, even from you.


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Schiavo Situation [message #146036] Sun, 27 March 2005 15:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Of course I know that. What's your point? A PhD is not a mark of attaining a certain level of intelligence that cannot be superceded without a PhD.

That's all semantics, though.


"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)

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Schiavo Situation [message #146050] Sun, 27 March 2005 17:08 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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