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Damn Counter Strike Source Hacker [message #144791] Sun, 20 March 2005 18:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DaveGMM is currently offline  DaveGMM
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Fine, so I was trying to edge ahead there, it's not like you never do that.

Getting back on topic, you're a cheater. You said that cheating in Renegade isn't like cheating on CSS. Why? Because you're not affecting other people's gameplay?
Strike that.
Because you're not being an ass?
Strike that.

You and I both know you don't suck at games. I've got the shots to my head to prove it. Why did you feel it neccesary to "assram" the BC servers, and why, although I hesitate to use this as I really don't know the circumstances, are you needing to use alledged exploits to get kills?

Hmm. Passive voice is definately the watch-phrase with me of late.
Damn Counter Strike Source Hacker [message #144792] Sun, 20 March 2005 18:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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DaveGMM

This just, if anything, backs up Warranto's point that cheating in one game leads to cheating in another.



Err.. I never implied cheating in one game leads to cheating in another....
Damn Counter Strike Source Hacker [message #144794] Sun, 20 March 2005 18:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DaveGMM is currently offline  DaveGMM
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Bugger it, maybe I got the name wrong then, or I'm simply picking a random comment out of thin air.

Apologies.
Damn Counter Strike Source Hacker [message #144799] Sun, 20 March 2005 19:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Heh, you weren't far off though. I simply said that cheating in one is as bad as cheating in another. Don't fret though, you weren't the only one to get it wrong Wink.
Damn Counter Strike Source Hacker [message #144809] Sun, 20 March 2005 20:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Cheating in one game is not as bad as cheating in another. If you use cheats in a game like Medal of Honor on the Playstation and unlock the cheats in the game, is that just as bad as cheating in Renegade or in CounterStrike... Or any game for that matter? Of course not, each game is different, whether or not you cheated in one has no bearing on what your future actions will be.
Damn Counter Strike Source Hacker [message #144867] Mon, 21 March 2005 07:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't think some of those places were put there with the thought people getting ontop of them in mind. But they don't affect the gameplay in any serious way, so they aren't patched. If someone gave you a boost in real life, you'd be able to get ontop of those boxes too. It'd say you could probably get into a tree in real life to if you jumped from a ledge horizontal with the branch.

It's the same principle we went by in the n00bsvrs dave, remember, buddy jumping was allowed for jumping over walls because if it happened in real life you'd be able to boost someone over that wall. But your car would probably get stuck if you drive it up a ramp only one wheel would fit on Wink


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Damn Counter Strike Source Hacker [message #144870] Mon, 21 March 2005 07:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's different when you affect other peoples gameplay, whether its one person or many.

Homey
Damn Counter Strike Source Hacker [message #144871] Mon, 21 March 2005 07:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ACK, you're a dumbass.

I remember you going in Aztec and killing me while you were in a area where no faces have been created by Valve. Isn't that a little odd? I mean if you were supposed to be up there... Valve obviously would of add the textures and faces to the area. :rolleyes:

I bet you that if you ask anyone who has played with me, I do not scream "CHEATER!!" every time I get shot.

I've never had so much problems with exploiters. However, you ACK, take the cake. You exploit in Aztec, Office, Prodigy (sp?), and every other map that has a tiny glitch. Valve hasn't patched it, because people are decent enough to not use those glitches... and getting in those areas isn't very common in a match outside of your beloved RenEvo Dedicated US [1] server.

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Damn Counter Strike Source Hacker [message #144875] Mon, 21 March 2005 08:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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People use the glitches on every server that allows it. RenEvo happens to be a server that allows it, and I agree with that decision. It makes the games interesting. It's no fun playing round after round where you know everything that is going to happen. I like being surprised, and I like surprising other people.

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Damn Counter Strike Source Hacker [message #144883] Mon, 21 March 2005 09:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DaveGMM is currently offline  DaveGMM
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Homey

It's different when you affect other peoples gameplay, whether its one person or many.


My point in a nutshell. You go ahead, Jon, and enter all those cheats into your favourite skating game, put low gravity on, I don't care. You're not affecting my gameplay.

You put in something that allows you to blow up the PTs in a server where "innocent" people play - people who probably had never heard of the little feude you and BC had, and that I have a problem with - is this a new concept for you?

That cheating is bad?

It does undermine your position whenever you take a stance against cheating, even you have to see the light of that.

Go ad populum, yay.

And, j4S[p], Jon is any may be many things, but dumb?
That ain't one of them.
Damn Counter Strike Source Hacker [message #144915] Mon, 21 March 2005 12:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aircraftkiller a.k.a. ACK

Cheating in one game is not as bad as cheating in another. If you use cheats in a game like Medal of Honor on the Playstation and unlock the cheats in the game, is that just as bad as cheating in Renegade or in CounterStrike... Or any game for that matter? Of course not, each game is different, whether or not you cheated in one has no bearing on what your future actions will be.


Either way, you are still assume the title of "cheater". To bring up a secondary point, cheating online is a different argumentative area than cheating single player, so that within itself is "apples and oranges".
Damn Counter Strike Source Hacker [message #144919] Mon, 21 March 2005 12:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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DaveGMM

You put in something that allows you to blow up the PTs in a server where "innocent" people play - people who probably had never heard of the little feude you and BC had, and that I have a problem with


Some tend to do stupid things to to get back at people they don't like, even reasonable people. I remember reading a while ago that if you lose your cool with someone, like a scumbag or ned, you bring yourself down to their level and stop being smart enough to ignore them and let it slip.

Though, you speak about it like cheating is the end of the world.... I mean, if I was one of those innocent players, I wouldn't be losing sleep at night because somebody turned on a cheat, blew my face off a few times or shot down my apache.
Damn Counter Strike Source Hacker [message #144928] Mon, 21 March 2005 13:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Would it piss you off when you're playing? I know it would piss me off, half an hour later I wouldn't remember it but still. I play games for entertainment and enjoyment, not to be annoyed by something so dumb.

Homey
Damn Counter Strike Source Hacker [message #144935] Mon, 21 March 2005 13:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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]ACK, you're a dumbass.

I remember you going in Aztec and killing me while you were in a area where no faces have been created by Valve. Isn't that a little odd? I mean if you were supposed to be up there... Valve obviously would of add the textures and faces to the area. :rolleyes:

I bet you that if you ask anyone who has played with me, I do not scream "CHEATER!!" every time I get shot.

I've never had so much problems with exploiters. However, you ACK, take the cake. You exploit in Aztec, Office, Prodigy (sp?), and every other map that has a tiny glitch. Valve hasn't patched it, because people are decent enough to not use those glitches... and getting in those areas isn't very common in a match outside of your beloved RenEvo Dedicated US [1] server.


The rockslide is not an untextured area. There are no places on Aztec that I know of that allow you to reach a place where you're not standing on static world geometry that still allows you to be seen. You're making shit up now.

First you whined when I got into the rockslides. You called that an exploit, even though it's been there the entire time and it's just somehow the size of a human player so you can crouch in them. No, it doesn't hide your head you moron.

Second, you complain that I got on top of the ledge, even though it's easily accessible from the rock blocks right next to it.

Third, you complain about the trees, even though all of them are designed to be sat in considering most of the branches are physical objects.

If it were a problem and not intended, Valve would patch it. You know shit about game design. People were getting on the pipes in Train, but Valve patched that within two weeks. How does your argument hold water after that?

And yes it's common outside the server; if you actually played in different servers, you'd know that.
Damn Counter Strike Source Hacker [message #145153] Tue, 22 March 2005 13:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Me making shit up? No, no, no. You're making shit up. When the fuck did I whine about the rockslides or trees, or even complain about "OMFG EXPLOTI IS COVRZ UR HED OH NOES!!11"? I told you about getting on the ledges in Aztec near the ceiling of the map. I'll show you a screenshot of what I mean in a bit, when I play Counter-Strike: Source.

Also, about your tree argument - they would by physical anway - I mean, if I a object was blown into a tree by a grenade and went threw the branches, wouldn't that be just a tiny bit odd? :rolleyes:

I do play in other servers. Other people respect the exploits, atleast us New Yorkers do. Very Happy
Damn Counter Strike Source Hacker [message #145536] Thu, 24 March 2005 17:59 Go to previous message
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msgtpain

I'm sorry... we're we discussing the "proper" term? or just one of the widly accepted variations of it? Does this argument seem at least a little familiar?


Even though this argument is long gone, you actually made a worse error than the one Aircraftkiller made.

We're = we are.

"Were" is the correct word to use in the beginning of that quote.
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