| Breaking News Regarding RenAlert! [message #142642] |
Tue, 08 March 2005 05:58   |
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Walrus
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Registered: February 2003
Location: Good old England
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All I see are children...
We have no real Mod of this game. This sickens me.
Renalert was a sound failure it came close. But it did fail.
Renalert source could not live up to its own hype, it started but went limp and bailed.
It is unlikely that renalert will ever be finished. Oh well.
Reborn is off living in the clouds somewhere. but they are still working, (supposedly,) that deserves some respect, although they should be honest about what they have achieved and take no notice of silly comments. It is unlikely that they will succeed.
Crimson (blackhand studios) have given us the main and perhaps only improvements to this game, they have put in the work and they have something to show for it. So far they present the only real future for this game. What comes next...
Aircraftkiller. Grow up. Please. You are judged on your actions and the way you treat people, a man who wants to be taken seriously and wants a good future does not act this way, especially if he loves what he does and what he his working toward. Yet you act like a fool (,fool as in jester). You seem to want to get some where in the gaming industry, but keep throwing away every opportunity you have.
I love reading these threads, they make me laugh and give me something to write about. I had real hope for this game. That's the funny thing about hope. It doesn't always come to much. Not every story has a happy ending.
One Last Time
"England expects that every man will do his duty"
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| Breaking News Regarding RenAlert! [message #142647] |
Tue, 08 March 2005 06:52 |
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Walrus
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Ignorant. Why the insult?
I have checked the forums on this site, renalert.com, and renevo.
Renalert did fail. it got very close to the end, but never finished. Half life two is the obvious answer. But nothing was stopping you from cutting it short and finishing the product. - so much was promised-
Redalert a path beyond (source) got started. There are some very nice renders on the redelrt.com forums, of the tesla tank, and it looks very nice. A Path Beyond (source) has failed too. You have switched the bf2 engine I believe - so much was promised-
renevo describes a 'bustup' and the affiliation between both mods and mod groups has ended. This is not a good sign. They appear to have everything that they need, with, or without redalert.
Redalert bf or otherwise has not yet started, but it does not look good for the mod.
This is not ignorant information, or ignorance. If I am wrong, then I am sorry, please post up all the detailed information about what happened, so that I can read it, and know the truth... One line posts will not help. But if you have information then please post it....
One Last Time
"England expects that every man will do his duty"
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| Breaking News Regarding RenAlert! [message #142669] |
Tue, 08 March 2005 10:55 |
Naamloos
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Registered: April 2004
Location: The Netherlands
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The units played like in an RTS while this is a FPS.
... Like rockets hardly damaging infantry when hit by it.
What AK never got was that you can't make an RTS out of a FPS. Even if you could the game would lag like hell with all the AI.
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| Breaking News Regarding RenAlert! [message #142673] |
Tue, 08 March 2005 12:31 |
The Mad Hatter
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The units played like in Red Alert . . . wasn't that sort of the aim?
Where's the fun in having multi-purpose anti-everything units?
In Red Alert, units had purposes, like anti-vehicle or anti-infantry. Why should they suddenly gain new abilities just because its an fps?
Besides, if you were a rocket soldier you could have used a pistol against infantry.
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| Breaking News Regarding RenAlert! [message #142715] |
Tue, 08 March 2005 17:36 |
Naamloos
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You don't have to make an RTS out of a FPS. All you have to do is take what makes the soul of the RTS and recreate it in the FPS. If you lack the vision to do that, then no wonder you like Reborn.
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I know what you where trying to do in renalert, but it just didn't work. Why do you think many people didn't like renalert? Because the gameplay sucked.
Most people just played to support the mod hopping that it would "get beter" and didn't dare to say what they really thought of it.
And this has nothing to do with reborn. The reason i go there is because they do finish what they started, even though it took/takes them longer to do so.
I respect that, after all that flaming they got trowed at them.
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| Breaking News Regarding RenAlert! [message #142722] |
Tue, 08 March 2005 17:50 |
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Aircraftkiller
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That's why we had lots of players, because no one liked the gameplay! It's a new concept of game design! The worse off the gameplay, the more people want to play it!
Who said we had to finish anything on this engine? I don't understand why you and several others think starting a project on one engine means you need to finish it in that engine.
Oh, I know why. You have a shitty computer and refuse to get any upgrades for it, so you're stuck here and are whining because everyone else is going to better games that you can't play.
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| Breaking News Regarding RenAlert! [message #142724] |
Tue, 08 March 2005 17:54 |
Naamloos
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No one ever sead anything about having to finish a project.
And fuck off about my money problems. Hey, atleast i don't ask for money on forums so i can buy some game.
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| Breaking News Regarding RenAlert! [message #142740] |
Tue, 08 March 2005 19:26 |
flyingfox
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all I can say for this topic (and call me what-have-you) is that renalert is a free mod and none of the team have asked for any money or support on it. renalert is still playable on renegade, is it not? so why aren't people playing it? they've made several releases and i'd say their last was (with the exception of a few bugs) all but playable. I found it a lot of fun.
I think jefflee mentioned that employees must stick with something that was top notch at the time of starting, even when something better comes out. well the difference between that and a free fan-based mod is that those employees are being paid by an organisation to make the game. They are also under a time schedule and would not have time to start work on a new project. If anybody was actually paying jonathan, or one of his team members objects to his change, then yeah he's fucked for stopping work. but if he's selfish for switching game engine then his fans are equally selfish for expecting something of him when he doesn't expect anything back. I don't think he even started work on renalert for the source engine so it isn't as big a deal as it would be if the second project (source) was in mid-completion.
I would also like to say it's laughable that this topic was started, because the creator doesn't like renalert at all and it was his intent to start this multi-way argument for his own enjoyment - notice he hasn't made a single post in it? it's not about passion for the renalert game, it's about not liking aircraftkiller and getting one over him in any way possible.
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| Breaking News Regarding RenAlert! [message #142741] |
Tue, 08 March 2005 19:32 |
msgtpain
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Registered: March 2003
Location: Montana
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I would also like to say it's laughable that this topic was started, because the creator doesn't like renalert at all and it was his intent to start this multi-way argument for his own enjoyment - notice he hasn't made a single post in it? it's not about passion for the renalert game, it's about not liking aircraftkiller and getting one over him in any way possible.
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Goddamn... you're brilliant! It took you this long to figure that out?
Ack's a prick, and he bashes everyone, every chance he gets.. I pay my respects in return once in a while.
So sue me?
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| Breaking News Regarding RenAlert! [message #142744] |
Tue, 08 March 2005 19:41 |
msgtpain
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lol, you wasted a hell of a lot more time responding to it for two days then I did creating it.. But glad you're having fun too..
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| Breaking News Regarding RenAlert! [message #142748] |
Tue, 08 March 2005 20:16 |
flyingfox
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. . . he bashes everyone, every chance he gets.. I pay my respects in return once in a while.
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what, pay them back as a favour for everyone else who can't defend for theirselves?? the bashing you mention is meaningless, stupid BS; I ignore those posts as easily as ignoring a spider's web. how much can saying "your textures suck" or "you can't spell" really offend someone, anyway. If somebody told me that, I'd work on getting it right instead of whine. At least in scotland we learn how to deal with that petty stuff in primary school..
And you wrote this topic as if to say "hey, look at this guy; he's changing engines for a third time, without the consent of his fans, blasphemy! how can you guys put up with this??" well that's the kind of shit the media pulls to get ignorant people not to like someone so to make their life worse. you know the whole not telling all of the story thing. has this guy even spoke to you except for the times you come to this forum to insult him? It would seem that the guiltier party is you, trying to get undecided renalert fans to your way of thinking. or in other words trying to ruin the fanbase.
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| Breaking News Regarding RenAlert! [message #142750] |
Tue, 08 March 2005 20:28 |
msgtpain
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well that's the kind of shit the media pulls to get ignorant people not to like someone so to make their life worse. you know the whole not telling all of the story thing.
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There's irony for you... do you know the whole story? Maybe Ack can fill us in, instead of changing the subject yet again.
The point of my original post was simple.. Ack talks a lot of shit, but it's pretty apparent that he can't walk the walk; and taking in to account his current direction, RenAlert will not become a reality until around 2008, if ever.
If that makes his fanbase mad, that really isn't my fault now is it.
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| Breaking News Regarding RenAlert! [message #142754] |
Tue, 08 March 2005 20:47 |
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glyde51
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Registered: August 2004
Location: Winnipeg
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Even though it's already playable and had plenty of support for two years? lol... okay well whatever makes you sleep easier at night!
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The point of my original post was simple.. Ack talks a lot of shit, but it's pretty apparent that he can't walk the walk
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yeah, I think that's his point, dumbass.
No. Seriously. No.
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