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| Whoo! Go death!!!!111!!1one!11 [message #141006] |
Sun, 27 February 2005 22:14   |
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Doitle, quit typing like Pak, please.
I suck cock and love it... absolutely love it. And I just got banned for being too immature to be allowed to post here.
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| Whoo! Go death!!!!111!!1one!11 [message #141007] |
Sun, 27 February 2005 22:18 |
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IRON FART
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The thing is that they tried to prove that guy was a terrorist. The only trouble was that they killed him in the process.
It reminds me of that process used to prove someone is a witch.
Throw them in a lake and if:
A. They sink, then they are not a witch, but they drown.
B. If they float, then they are a witch, but they are taken and killed.
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| Whoo! Go death!!!!111!!1one!11 [message #141008] |
Sun, 27 February 2005 22:19 |
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I hate the idea of torture, and I could never be one to inflict it on someone else. I can't justify it, and I won't justify it. I can, however, say that it's a necessary evil. If it saves countless American AND Iraqi lives, then I say it's all the more worth it. If we can somehow predict and even prevent suicide bombers and ambuses, we can save many lives while successfully restoring order in Iraq. While I'll agree that this wasn't achieved in this case, it is in many other cases.
Libertarian Party | The King's Throne | The Soda Shop
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| Whoo! Go death!!!!111!!1one!11 [message #141012] |
Sun, 27 February 2005 23:45 |
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NeoSaber
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Wait... the story says this was all part of the Abu Ghraib situation and that the man's death was already declared to be a murder by the US military way back when that story first came out.
Why is this news now...?
NeoSaber
Renegade Map Maker at CnC Source
Animator/Compiler/Level Editor/Object Rigger/Programmer for Red Alert: A Path Beyond
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| Whoo! Go death!!!!111!!1one!11 [message #141013] |
Sun, 27 February 2005 23:57 |
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IRON FART
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Because the details weren't released.
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| Whoo! Go death!!!!111!!1one!11 [message #141135] |
Mon, 28 February 2005 15:41 |
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Javaxcx
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Location: Canada, eh?
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Considering he hasn't been deemed a terrorist, what do you think?
Since neither of us know for certain, but he didn't admit to one (as far as we know, because he was, and is still considered merely a suspect), the probability lies closer to the "I'm not a terrorist" bit.
But then again, would you admit to being a terrorist, even while being tortured? Not only that, we don't know when this situation actually took place in coorelation to with the other tortures. Admitting to being a terrorist PROBABLY wouldn't have changed anything about his situation, and in all likelyhood would have amplified it.
So I'd bet he said that he wasn't a terrorist. Unless of course you can prove otherwise.
Sniper Extraordinaire
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You have no chance to survive make your time.
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| Whoo! Go death!!!!111!!1one!11 [message #141137] |
Mon, 28 February 2005 15:46 |
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Nodbugger
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Considering he hasn't been deemed a terrorist, what do you think?
Since neither of us know for certain, but he didn't admit to one (as far as we know, because he was, and is still considered merely a suspect), the probability lies closer to the "I'm not a terrorist" bit.
But then again, would you admit to being a terrorist, even while being tortured? Not only that, we don't know when this situation actually took place in coorelation to with the other tortures. Admitting to being a terrorist PROBABLY wouldn't have changed anything about his situation, and in all likelyhood would have amplified it.
So I'd bet he said that he wasn't a terrorist. Unless of course you can prove otherwise.
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Well what people say these things are used for is to get people to admit to things. Even if they didn't do them. The guy obviously cannot get the death penalty under any law. So if he knew saying he was a terrorist would have gotten him off with a lighter sentence than why didn't he just say it then come his time in court he can change his mind. Could it be he was a terrorist? And denying he was going to do these things to his enemies took away the point of being one? Being tortured ,didn't he die as he wanted to, a martyr?
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| Whoo! Go death!!!!111!!1one!11 [message #141142] |
Mon, 28 February 2005 15:51 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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I recommend a brain transplant.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
The Liberal Media At Work
An objective look at media partisanship
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| Whoo! Go death!!!!111!!1one!11 [message #141145] |
Mon, 28 February 2005 16:18 |
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Vitaminous! MAKE UP THINE MIND! You pm'd me before saying you couldn't read my posts cause they were all one big paragraph. Now I split them up and I'm writing like Pak? Sounds like someone didn't eat their w00ties today and I think it's you.
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By that I mean stop capitalizing the first letter of some words for no reason.
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Ok, Terrorists are Bad people.
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I suck cock and love it... absolutely love it. And I just got banned for being too immature to be allowed to post here.
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| Whoo! Go death!!!!111!!1one!11 [message #141175] |
Mon, 28 February 2005 19:31 |
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IRON FART
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Well what people say these things are used for is to get people to admit to things. Even if they didn't do them. The guy obviously cannot get the death penalty under any law. So if he knew saying he was a terrorist would have gotten him off with a lighter sentence than why didn't he just say it then come his time in court he can change his mind. Could it be he was a terrorist? And denying he was going to do these things to his enemies took away the point of being one?
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No, he was just a poor sob trying to save his own ass, but got killed doing it. If you were pcked up and interrogated, would you admit to something you didn't do? Now don't get me wrong, i'm not saying that he was a terrorist. We don't know that.
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Being tortured ,didn't he die as he wanted to, a martyr?
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A. How do you know he wanted to die?
B. How do you know he would have died for religious beliefs?
C. Use "Martyrs" carefully. That implies heroism. Some people obviously see terrorists as freedom fighters etc, whereas some seem them as power hungry rebels.
D. Calling him a martyr implies that he was a terrorist, but we don't know if he is one.
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| Whoo! Go death!!!!111!!1one!11 [message #141186] |
Mon, 28 February 2005 20:02 |
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IRON FART
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Errrmm...Yes Netscape -an AOL owned company - with news powered by CNN. I suppose they are part of this secret, liberal, anti-american, anti-bush communist, socialist and underground news network that needs a secret handshake to be admitted access to.
This isn't anti-Bush media. I didn't even post it because of that reason. Look at the title of the topic and then look at the attitude on that stupid girl's face. Make sense to you now?
That is part of the reason I posted this. The other part is because this is like "The Salem Witch Trials: Reloaded."
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