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hey everyone,

im new here, and i just got renguard after my favorite server required me to have it. unlike all the rumors that it causes lag and such i was pleased to find that my gameplay wnt uninterrupted, until about 30 minutes into the game. thats when renegade crashed to the desktop, saying it encountered an internal error and needed to close. i re opened the game and joined the server again. about 5 minutes later my computer gave me a BSOD, so i had to restart. once i got into windows i shut down the pc for a minute then rebooted. i uninstalled renegade and renguard and deleted the directory. then i reinstalled and updated renegade then installed renguard. very soon after i joined the server, my game was crashed back to the desktop again. i rejoined and renegade crashed but i couldnt get out of is because the computer locked up. i noticed that my computer began locking up randomly even while not playing renegade. i had a free saturday that weekend so i reformatted my hard drive thinking it may have been spyware that couldnt be removed or something. after spending an hour and a half reinstalling and installing renegade, updating it, and installing renguard, i had the same problem. most of the time it just crashes to the desktop, sometimes the system locks up when it crashes to the desktop and i have only encountered a BSOD once, and im not sure that renguard was the cause of it. the pc still locked up even while not playing renegade. but i still had these problems after i reformatted and nothing else was installed. i hadnt even surfed the web yet so i kow there was no spyware involved. i have not yet tried the new CP1 as im scared to run renguard because i dont want to mess up my computer. does anyone kow what the problem may be and how to go about fixing it?

thanks in advance


my system info:
win XP pro SP2
intel p4 2.6ghz 800mhz fsb
512mb pc2700
ati radeon 9700 pro 128 running at AGP 8x with aperture set to 64
realtek ac97 audio
120gb samsung hard drive @ 7200rpm
problem with renguard, need help [message #122732] Sun, 28 November 2004 15:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It looks like your renegade is crashing/returning to desktop. There may be many reasons for that.

RenGuard only does it, when you have bad/unknown files - if your renegade crashes, look in the RenGuard window for messages, maybe this gives you clues.


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problem with renguard, need help [message #122736] Sun, 28 November 2004 16:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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well the only mods i had installed are the c4 countdown mod and the ion/nuke countdown mod, but those are just WAV files and shouldnt affect anything. i never had a problem using them before.
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WAV files dont cause crashing, so scratch those out...
look in the logfile thats usually produced when a crash occures called except.txt or something along those lines (ask mac Razz)


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problem with renguard, need help [message #122766] Sun, 28 November 2004 17:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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could it be something with sp2?
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My bro upgraded to SP2, he now has to format and downgrade to an early version of XP.
SP2 fixes previous errors, but it develops alot of new errors!
remember that Wink


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you dont have to reformat to get rid of SP2

its under Add/Remove programs
problem with renguard, need help [message #123013] Mon, 29 November 2004 21:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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well sp2 is automatically installed with windows, so it doesnt matter, i just figured i may have a configurational problem or something got screwed up.
problem with renguard, need help [message #123062] Tue, 30 November 2004 05:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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you dont have to reformat to get rid of SP2

its under Add/Remove programs


Does it mean to day it 100% gets rid of it?
Remember, its BillSoft, their world is their oyster Wink


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problem with renguard, need help [message #123087] Tue, 30 November 2004 08:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Everything looks good on your system until I got here >> realtek ac97 audio I went to Realtek web site and find that these are only codecs and not graphic cards/drivers. Do you have a [edit] Audio card installed on your system? If not you may want to invest in one. your sound driver/codec (whatever) may be crashing you to desktop.

Did you play Renegade before and did you crash to desktop prior to trying to install Renguard?

Make sure you have all the latest drivers for your system and DX9.0c. Ensure you don't exceed your system settings including graphic card output to monitor capabilities/restrictions. Make sure your Renegade game settings are also correctly adjusted.

http://www.realtek.com.tw/products/products.aspx


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problem with renguard, need help [message #123284] Tue, 30 November 2004 20:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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prior to the installation of renguard, my game would crash about 3 times in a month if i would play for about an hour every day. i forgot about that, but now that i just reformatted, i havent had any problems so far and its been a week. i do have a video card, and its not a bad one; radeon 9700 pro. the sound driver that i was using was out of date and i currently have the latest driver from realtek installed.

BTW im not sure what you meant when you asked if i had a graphics card installed... thats kinda mandatory to play a game, did you mean something else? Confused
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BTW im not sure what you meant when you asked if i had a graphics card installed... thats kinda mandatory to play a game, did you mean something else? Confused


Oops my bad, I meant Audio card... Smile

Try stopping any programs running in the background that you don't want when computer boots - Run/msconfig/startup


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problem with renguard, need help [message #124226] Sat, 04 December 2004 17:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i already have my startup tweaked, as thats the first thing i do when i reformat Wink. i used msconfig, as well as startup cpl, and all is working great.
problem with renguard, need help [message #125127] Tue, 07 December 2004 21:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Two years ago was the last time i had a BSOD in XP pro (system stop).
If it happens again write down the info thats on the screen, it should give
you a pretty detailed summary of where a problem occured and even mention filenames usually.
For me back then it was related to the drivers of the network card Tamarack TC6010 10/100mbit networkcard, emailed the makers of the card and they sent me an updated driver then after a while.
I dont know if it has to do with your Network drivers but mostlikely its a driver of something fucking up somewhere.


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problem with renguard, need help [message #128212] Tue, 21 December 2004 15:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i havent been running renguard since my reformat and i have noticed 2 desktop crashes in the past week and when i click quit to desktop, it stops responding and i need to ctrl-alt-delete it. i think it may be an issue with sp2, as i didnt have that problem before. i will be test running it in compatibility mode to see if that stops the problems. after i have fixed the issue i will install the latest version of renguard and see how everything runs. i have updated all of my drivers on my system and i have also noticed that my video card and USB root hub are both sharing irq 16, which i think could be a problem, lol. thanks for the help everybody, ill post the results after i run a few tests to try and fix the prob.
problem with renguard, need help [message #128287] Tue, 21 December 2004 20:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It used to happen to me too and I am sure it is not a problem with windows XP or service pack 2 or whatever, because I use windows ME. when you quit, do you run the game in a different resolution than your desktop? that was why mine froze and I had to restart the computer.

to be honest I think it is a problem with your PC overheating when playing. I asked about this problem a while ago (on these forums mind you) and was told my fan wasn't fast enough to cool the CPU. I mean look at this:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/k.livingston/temp.jpg

that's without a game on.. notice one of the temps is at overheat level and another is on its way up. my suggestion would be to first find out your fan speed. if it's higher than mine, consider a new one.
problem with renguard, need help [message #128435] Wed, 22 December 2004 15:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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my cpu is is running cool as is my graphics card. i am not having any problems in any other games, so i dont think heat is an issue. ive been running renegade in compatibility mode, and it hasnt crashed yet. im going to see if it works for a few more days then ill try renguard again. you wouldnt think xp sp2 would mess things up, but it fixes some problems and randomly creates new ones.
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Flyingfox, your CPU isn't necessarily at that bad temps, depends what
processor you use. The Pentium CPU's are usually at lower temps than Athlons. For example my Athlon XP 2800+ (Barton) used to run at 75C under load with the defaul fan, just like my neigbours's one, without any crashing/symptoms. (Bought a new fan after the old loosesned and got noisy, now at 55C idle). Three other friends I know that have AMD processors have idle temperatures at around 60C. Some CPU's are known to have been fully operational even at almost 100C. Of course there's some variety between processors, only way to tell what yours can handle is to test.

Processors are supposed to be hot, they calculate craploads of stuff all the time. Many PC modders want to get their CPU temperatures as low as possible, going all the way down to 20C, but that's not necessary. Sure, the CPU lifespan is longer when the CPU is cool, but if it goes from 6 years to 5 years, does it really matter? In 5 years you can get that same CPU with 10 bucks or so, and you've probably dumped it already anyway.

Here's a link to CPU "hazard temps":

http://www.pantherproducts.co.uk/Articles/CPU/CPU%20Temperatures.shtml


Just ranting a little here, I'm sick of people who go like "Omg my Processor is at 50 Celsius!!1 it's guna burn what can I doo!?!?"

Edit: ALSO NOTE, that P4 processors SLOW DOWN when they overheat to avoid damage, so you don't need to worry about them that much. If your PC seems to get slow with a P4, check your temperatures, if it's abnormally high the CPU isn't working at full speed. I read a review from Mikrobitti PC magazine (mikrobitti.fi, finnish) where they removed the entire P4 CPU fan. The CPU didn't get damaged, but due to low CPU speed the PC was nearly inoperable.


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problem with renguard, need help [message #128620] Thu, 23 December 2004 14:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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pentium 4s slow down with heat? hmm i didnt kow that lol. well renegade hasnt crashed at all since i put it into compatibilty mode. i think that the game.exe doesnt run good on my computer in the first place in normal mode and when you install renguard (a modified game.exe) it made it even less stable. but it should work now, so ill install it when i get around to it Wink
problem with renguard, need help [message #129334] Tue, 28 December 2004 11:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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well renegade has been running crash free and smooth for a week now. im installing renguard shortly... wish me luck... Cool
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ok well i installed it. now i am downloading the core patch update and while i was doing this the pc froze and ATI vpu recover kicked in saying that the vpu was in deadlock and that it is now put into sowftware mode drawing... im hoping this is just an EXTREMELY rare coincidience, as my pc has been running without problems with the latest drivers for a while now... what would make it do this? i wasnt even running the game, only the core patch updater?
problem with renguard, need help [message #129359] Tue, 28 December 2004 12:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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despite that installation problem, it has been running nice for 2 hours now. i will need to do further testing but its looking good. my only complaint is that sometimes i get lag spikes that i never used to get before. and it also seems like the bullets are laggy too? maybe just my imagination, ill post later after some more testing. right now im installing the UNrules fan mappacks.
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Having a new problem with renguard. I recently started getting this and I have completly reinstalled everything fresh, but still no joy.

Pent 4 3.4Ghz HT
1GB mem
SB128 Live
Nividia geforce fx 5500 AGP 8x 512MB mem

This runs fantastic in renegade, but everytime I run with renguard on it kicks me out with this error now. Never used too.

http://66.135.185.60/forums/uploads/post-42-1104277088.gif

Crim Any suggestions? I think this was an old issue, and had a fix but I can't seem to find it.

PS: I am also running CP1 and the no-cdpatch. but I reinstalled em in sequence.
Renegade install
Ran WOL patch 1.037
Ran No-cd patch
Ran Renguard install
Ran CP1 update
reboot
Start game
Select server
loads
begin play for about 5 secs
Kick out of renguard with buffer overrun error.
Have to play without it for time being...

Any help you can provide would be Appricated.

Thanks

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Scythar: ta for the link, i'm a n00b. turns out the maximum temp is 90c (for an athlon 2100, mine) so 55 might not be trouble after all.

ingram: found this topic from back in june: http://www.renegadeforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=10637&highlight=
seems like those runtime files sorted the problem for a couple, some still had probs.
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Thanks Flyingfox. I had forgoten that. I knew I had it before but could not remember what I did to fix it. as soon as I saw the whole VS .dll info I remebered. Thanks again.

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