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Bush: Pre-Senile Dementia? [message #119797] Mon, 11 October 2004 19:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh, and by the way, I can sort of understand the argument for body armor, I've already seen it, but those people in that town hall meeting must be so well scanned by the Secret Service that I doubt any of them could ever be a potential killer.


Would they detect someone with dentures made out of C4? :twisted:
Bush: Pre-Senile Dementia? [message #119799] Mon, 11 October 2004 19:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've heard some people, who I know are not Dems, suggest that given the rumor that Bush had a breakdown about a year ago, that maybe the Press Office or his Advisors had him drugged up on Prozac or some such to prevent him from having a repeat in front of 100 million people. And that the reason he wasn't on legal depressants in the 2nd one was because that's his enviroment and it shows because he pwned Kerry.

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Bush: Pre-Senile Dementia? [message #119802] Mon, 11 October 2004 20:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Put on your hip boots boys, it's gettin' deep!
Bush: Pre-Senile Dementia? [message #119808] Mon, 11 October 2004 21:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This whole thread can be summed up into one word: crap.

Being president of the most powerful nation in the world is a much more demanding job than being a state governor. The President was not going to be as quick on his feet as usual since he could fall asleep from fatigue at any time.

I can't believe you would even think that was a radio receiver on his back. Who in their right mind puts a radio receiver on the President's back in plain view of a camera? Use your head, SuperFlyingEngi. No one in politics is that stupid.

I can't believe you're actually making an issue out of this, SuperFlyingEngi. About the only thing you have on Nodbugger is your use of proper grammar (most of the time). At least he makes arguments about real issues, and they make sense (most of the time Razz). You, on the other hand, choose to make an issue about what Bush had on his back during a debate and whether or not he is suffering from a brain disorder as if there's anything to debate about (for assholes who will say, "You're right, he obviously IS suffering from a debilitating brain disorder," there is nothing to debate about because he IS NOT suffering from presenile dementia).


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Bush: Pre-Senile Dementia? [message #119809] Mon, 11 October 2004 21:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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At least he makes arguments about real issues, and they make sense


Why do I find this so funny?

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Bush: Pre-Senile Dementia? [message #119810] Mon, 11 October 2004 22:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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(most of the time Razz)

Perhaps I should have said 50% of the time? Razz

That's beside the point, though. SuperFlyingEngi has resorted to trying to dig up any crap he can find that hurts GWB in some way and automatically accepts it as truth. It doesn't matter if it has nothing to do with any of his policis in question. It could be a conspiracy theory like this "radio receiver" deal, and Super would have no trouble thinking it's true.

At least Nodbugger debates the issues at hand.


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Bush: Pre-Senile Dementia? [message #119826] Mon, 11 October 2004 23:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ROFL, I just saw it on National TV...

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Bush: Pre-Senile Dementia? [message #119828] Mon, 11 October 2004 23:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You do know that SuperFlyingEngie isn't the only one who does it, I mean if the RenAlert forums were up I could find many cases where you point out little inane things about Kerry that have nothing to do with the issue at hand, and make a big deal out of them, I mean it's just normal action for the American Political Parties to bash each other like RenAlert and Reborn.

Hell, I won't be suprised when there are people holding up signs with Bushes head going in to Goatse, or Kerry getting a face full of tubgirl.

And anyway, when you people point out stupid little things (Be it Democrat or Republican) the rest of us have a fun time correcting you

And that most probably is a kevlar vest, me having seen one. a Kevlar vest has big plates of kevlar in it, the top most back plate was shaped like a house with a low roof, and had split in the middle for the user to have more 'natural' movement.

And see, why wouldn't they tell you, the innocent little American with a hunting rifle and a press pass to one of these debates, about the vests? (which probably both of them wear) Well it's simple, see you, the innocent little american with the big ass rifle, would usually be going for a heart shot, little do you know the president has Kevlar on, thus when you pull the trigger, bada-boom! the president falls on his ass, gets back up, pulls out an M16 and shoots your un-kevlared ass back to where you came from.

Now when the innocent little American with a big ass rifle knows that he has kevlar on, what does he do? He goes for the harder headshot. blam! Splatter! Thud! Screams! Exactly... billions of people get to see the presidents brains fly out of his head.

Thus the SS denies him having the Kevlar vest, so that the President can live to debate another day.

(And who was the smart ass who came up with Secret Service, my paranoid brain is putting Homeland Security, the SS and such together to form a big-ass concpiracy about a New World Order of neo-nazism run by anyone in office. =P No, i'm not being serious)
Bush: Pre-Senile Dementia? [message #119833] Tue, 12 October 2004 00:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The "SS"? That sure sounds wrong.

NAZI AMERICA!!


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Bush: Pre-Senile Dementia? [message #119836] Tue, 12 October 2004 00:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You do know that SuperFlyingEngie isn't the only one who does it, I mean if the RenAlert forums were up I could find many cases where you point out little inane things about Kerry that have nothing to do with the issue at hand, and make a big deal out of them, I mean it's just normal action for the American Political Parties to bash each other like RenAlert and Reborn.

"Little inane things" like Kerry's Vietnam War record? His war record is no "little inane thing." That's a legitimate topic since Kerry has made it a major portion of his campaign. Had he not made it such an important part of his platform it would be a non-issue, but he doesn't miss an opportunity to point out that he was in Vietnam in any speech he gives or any rally he's at. Kerry made it a major issue; I did not.

No, "little inane things" would be things like his spray-on tan, his $8,000 hair cut or his botox injections, none of which I have ever made an issue.


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Bush: Pre-Senile Dementia? [message #119838] Tue, 12 October 2004 01:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Did I ever mention the war records, which in my opinion are an issue? Did I? Anywhere in that post did I directly mention those war records or do you have any proof of me meaning them?

What's that I hear? ...oh it's a big fat NO, so stop putting words in my mouth, you feckin' liberal. =P

I didn't mean his war records, those seem to be an issue, but You and other Republicans (And Democrats such as SuperFlyingEngie) have the uncanny ability to derail topics totally with a few comments about things that have no basis, basis being that they have actual fact behind them.

The Republicans dish out useless slander just as much as the Democrats, neither party will admit it, but both of them do it.

And on top of that, you just made those things an issue by even mentioning them, nyah.

*grabs popcorn and coke* Shoulda learned by now, there is no way you can out-debate me, this will go on for a while.

(Mind the typos, blame the flu)
Bush: Pre-Senile Dementia? [message #119845] Tue, 12 October 2004 03:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I find it ironic that you're calling hydra a liberal when he's quite obviously NOT one.

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There is no way you can out-debate me because I will prattle on and on endlessly until you give up even if I'm not making sense.


Since you're sick I fixed the typo.


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Bush: Pre-Senile Dementia? [message #119849] Tue, 12 October 2004 04:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The liberal part is a joke from the RenAlert forums, or did you just conveniantly not notice the '=P' ASCII smilie there that would mean it's a joke?

Nice going, Crimson, twisting what I said around, see either you were trying to be funny or were actually serious, either way you probably have No idea what I'm talking about when I said

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Shoulda learned by now, there is no way you can out-debate me, this will go on for a while.


that is also a joke, one you would not get since you never visit the RenAlert forums, see if you knew what I was talking about, you would know that me and Hydra have the ability to get in to ridiculously long debates where the size of the posts span atleast two pages each, where the point gets lost and we just end up repeating the same things, while agreeing on half the thinds and disagreeing on the other half.

But you just like turning a peoples words around, in an attempt to make a joke, that is totally lost on the people who know what I'm talking about.

Well Bravo, you just managed to add on to a quote, not get two jokes that were directed at Hydra, Insulted me while I had said nothing against you, and so on.

Suddenly I remember why I just keep to the RenAlert forums, too bad they're down.
Bush: Pre-Senile Dementia? [message #119850] Tue, 12 October 2004 04:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SuperFlyingEngi has resorted to trying to dig up any crap he can find that hurts GWB in some way and automatically accepts it as truth.


I'm not accepting this as truth. Read the thread. In my FIRST POST the only thing in it is the link and "Thoughts?" That's not accepting it as truth, I just want to see what you all think about it. The picture was more of a sidetrack, anyways, i have no idea what that thing is. Although, it should be noted in the debate rules that cameras being behind the candidates was expressly forbidden. However, the people using the cameras didn't exactly take the rules as the gospel.

Hydra, do you really believe that because Bush can't spell words correctly, that he's too tired? I've yet to see another President lose his abilities of eloquency for a debate. The President also didn't look very sleepy, either. His eyes were never drooping, he wasn't nodding off into slumber, stuff like that. I can hardly see that as being the reason.

hydra1945

"Little inane things" like Kerry's Vietnam War record? His war record is no "little inane thing."


If Kerry's war record is no little inane thing, then I'm sure that Bush having potentially heavy brain damage from being an alcoholic is no little inane thing, either.

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Bush: Pre-Senile Dementia? [message #119861] Tue, 12 October 2004 07:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hydra, do you really believe that because Bush can't spell words correctly, that he's too tired? I've yet to see another President lose his abilities of eloquency for a debate.


Ever hear of a little disorder called dyslexia? People with dyslexia typically mix up letters and numbers, both in writing and speech- I should know, I have a bit of it myself. Now, this might not show while the president is reading a speech written by someone else, or while he is typing something that can easily be edited before it is posted, he would not have that same convenience at a debate, where all his words are his own and there is no on-the-spot editing. I would bet any amount of money that's what is going on- it has nothing whatsoever to do with intelligence or how nervous he is. Please, feel free to ask a doctor if you don't believe me.

Stop picking on speech impediments and talk about real issues that actually have some relevance. Like, say, the quality of the candidate's character, or his stance on different controversial issues, or record in office, or something like that. What difference does it make if the man can't dot his i's and cross his t's; it's the message that matters, not how you look while giving it- don't be so damn superficial in your criticism.


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Bush: Pre-Senile Dementia? [message #119902] Tue, 12 October 2004 12:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Did I ever mention the war records, which in my opinion are an issue? Did I? Anywhere in that post did I directly mention those war records or do you have any proof of me meaning them?

What's that I hear? ...oh it's a big fat NO, so stop putting words in my mouth, you feckin' liberal. =P

I mentioned Kerry's war records because that's the only thing I remember debating about that might be construed or inane. Other than that, I don't remember talking about anything that might be considered meaningless.

I never said you said his war records were inane. I was only using that issue as an example of something about which I debated that might be considered petty and little.
Talk about putting words into people's mouths. Razz

AND STOP CALLING ME A LIBERAL!!!!!! Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad
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I didn't mean his war records, those seem to be an issue, but You and other Republicans (And Democrats such as SuperFlyingEngie) have the uncanny ability to derail topics totally with a few comments about things that have no basis, basis being that they have actual fact behind them.

Too bad the RenAlert forums are down. I honestly don't remember making any of the comments to which you refer.

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*grabs popcorn and coke* Shoulda learned by now, there is no way you can out-debate me, this will go on for a while.

(Mind the typos, blame the flu)

*takes the popcorn and soda*
All that junkfood will just make your flu worse! Don't you know you should be eating chicken noodle soup? Razz


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Bush: Pre-Senile Dementia? [message #119910] Tue, 12 October 2004 13:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There aren't the RenAlert forums, I don't visit the RenAlert forums, so how the heck do you expect me to "get" a joke from there? Remember that when you post here you are talking to a different audience, and if you want to be effective, you should consider what they would think about your post.

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Bush: Pre-Senile Dementia? [message #119974] Tue, 12 October 2004 20:25 Go to previous message
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See? The joke was not directed at you, the joke was directed at Hydra, because I knew Hydra would know what I was talking about.

I didn't expect you to get the joke, why? because it wasn't directed at you. But I did expect you to get that there was something more than random blabbering behind what I said, guess not.


IRT Hydra.

Well we'll have to go through the RenAlert forums and pick at all your posts and examine all the ones where you make even the slightest jab at Kerry.

I never said that you said I said that his war records were inane, I actually do think that His war records are an issue while Bush's war records are far less of an issue, simply because Kerry uses his war records to back his campaign.

And I never put words in to your mouth, now you are just making it seem like I put words in to your mouth! =P

....you freakin' LIBERAL....=D

And I do remember you making such comments, of course my memory isn't perfect so I might be remembering someone else, point still stands that Democrats/Liberals(LIKE YOU Razz) and Conservatives/Republicans will both take jabs at each other on issues that seem totally redundant and try make the other party seem foolish, while in truth they are making themselves look foolish (Like SuperFlyingEngie did here.).

*takes back the popcorn and soda*
But ma' always said that junkfood will make anything better! And I already got me some French Mushroom soup from there dere' Hotel up the street. atleast there's one thing the French know how to do, Food.

And Chicken Noodle soup is disgusting anyway.


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If Kerry's war record is no little inane thing, then I'm sure that Bush having potentially heavy brain damage from being an alcoholic is no little inane thing, either.


No, no, no ... and just No.

I guess I'll have to make out a 'Connect the dots' chart for you or something, but see since KERRY uses his SERVICE IN VIETNAM as a MAJOR CAMPAIGN POINT, it becomes no little inane thing, it becomes an actual issue because there is reason to doubt his doings in Vietnam, see?

But Bush doesn't use "I HAVE NO BRAIN DAMAGE" as a major point as to why he should stay president, thus him having or not having brain damage from being alcholic is not important, why? Because the arguement you are trying to make doesn't seem to be very important to anyone, see the Americans could careless, I could careless, just as long as someone nukes the fuck out of N.Korea, I'll be happy, I don't care if they guy who does it has brain damage or doesn't.

And anyway, I don't think he has major brain damage, most likely it's just minor cases of dyslexia while under a lot of stress, or he's tired, god knows I don't make a whole lot of sense when I'm tired. I mean seriously, try and stay up for a nice long while and then make some big important speech where you have to remember every line and so on.

Either way, it's really not an issue, in my opinion at least.
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