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| Kerry is anti-gun. [message #119087] |
Fri, 08 October 2004 19:41  |
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DarkDemin
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I am just preparing everyone for the worst. John Kerry wants to turn over gun registration in the United States to the U.N. and give them control over our guns. The U.N. will most likely attempt to disarm all the U.S. citizens. Most of you know that Americans feel very strongly over their right to bear arms. When the U.N. begins attempting to disarm Americans this will most likely result in a massive rebellion against the government and U.N.
I personally will join the rebels and begin to fight the government. It is my right to own a gun. A right that all Americans have had for over 250 years. I don't see how changing it now will result in any good or change. Criminals will get guns now matter what, and after the disarming that will most likely never happen peacefully, the normal American will have no protection from criminals and crime will likely rise.
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NRA And Brady Campaign Agree On One Thing: John Kerry Is Anti-Gun
Friday, October 08, 2004
On October 1, in a true testament to his anti-gun record, Senator John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) earned an endorsement from the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence (formerly Handgun Control, Inc.). For once, the Brady Campaign and NRA are in total agreement--John Kerry is the most anti-gun presidential nominee in history!
"If there was any doubt about John Kerry`s true position on the Second Amendment, his endorsement from the Brady Campaign should make it clear," said NRA-ILA Executive Director Chris W. Cox. "John Kerry stands with other gun banners like Dianne Feinstein, Ted Kennedy, and Chuck Schumer--each one commended by the Brady Campaign for their anti-gun records.
"It`s shameless and dishonest to spend your entire career voting against gun owners, then try to repackage yourself for a presidential bid," added Cox. "A true hunter and sportsman would never seek and accept the endorsement of groups who advocate banning guns, banning ammunition, banning hunting, and licensing and registering law-abiding gun owners."
The following are just a few of Kerry`s votes against America`s sportsmen and gun owners:
* Kerry voted to ban most center-fire rifle ammunition, including many common rounds used by hunters and target shooters (Vote No. 28, March 2, 2004).
* Kerry co-sponsored current legislation to ban all semi-automatic shotguns and detachable-magazine semi-automatic rifles, a gigantic step toward bringing Australian-style gun control to the U.S. (Signed on as co-sponsor of S. 1431 on Nov. 21, 2003).
* Kerry voted to hold the highly regulated American firearm industry legally responsible for the illegal acts of violent criminals (Vote No. 24, March 2, 2004; Vote No. 25, March 2, 2004).
* Kerry says, "I think you ought to tax all ammunition more, personally, I think you ought to tax guns." (CNN "Late Edition," Nov. 7, 1993).
* Kerry has a 100% rating from gun-control groups, and is called "a hero" by anti-hunting extremists such as PETA.
"Kerry`s numerous anti-gun votes present a red flag for hunters and sportsmen, but this savvy voting bloc will not be fooled by election-year campaign tactics," concluded Cox.
For a full list of John Kerry`s Second Amendment-related votes, please visit http://www.nrapvf.org/kerry/default.aspx.
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MUST WATCH:
http://www.nrapvf.org/multimedia/Player.aspx?ID=19 <--- About the U.N.
http://www.nrapvf.org/multimedia/Player.aspx?ID=15 <--- About Kerry
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| Kerry is anti-gun. [message #119115] |
Fri, 08 October 2004 21:28  |
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OH NO! NO MORE GUNS! Whatever shall people do!
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I suck cock and love it... absolutely love it. And I just got banned for being too immature to be allowed to post here.
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| Kerry is anti-gun. [message #119126] |
Fri, 08 October 2004 22:20 |
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bigejoe14
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So what do you think removing guns from average American citizens is going to accomplish? Do you honestly think that it will help lower crime rates? Criminals don't abide by the law anyway. What makes you think that they're going to stop obtaining guns to hunt, kill, and commit crimes?
WHATEVER, FAGGOT
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| Kerry is anti-gun. [message #119175] |
Sat, 09 October 2004 07:36 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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I declare this to be the Ignorant Thread.
But anyways, the second amendment doesn't just say "The right to bear arms." It says "The right to bear arms in an organized militia." The second amendment is not there to protect your "right" to owning and operating an M-60 or a sniper rifle, it's there so that a community within the United States will always be able to protect itself.
Of course, the NRA doesn't want you to know about that.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
The Liberal Media At Work
An objective look at media partisanship
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| Kerry is anti-gun. [message #119205] |
Sat, 09 October 2004 10:56 |
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NukeIt15
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But anyways, the second amendment doesn't just say "The right to bear arms." It says "The right to bear arms in an organized militia."
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Careful there, bud. That's not how the second amendment is worded- you are twisting the meaning by re-arranging sentences.
It says:
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A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
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BIG difference. You would have people believe that one must be a part of a militia in order to own a firearm. The second amendment states that citizens may own weapons and IF NECESSARY use them in a militia. You either have a shaky grasp of how the English language works, or you are hoping that others do- either way, you are trying to pervert the words of an amendment to this nation's most sacred document.
A militia is defined as:
1. An army composed of ordinary citizens rather than professional soldiers.
2. A military force that is not part of a regular army and is subject to call for service in an emergency.
3. The whole body of physically fit civilians eligible by law for military service.
Paraphrasing that- A militia is a force of ordinary citizens who are fit for military service and may be called upon to serve in an emergency. If you are of draft age and not yet in the military, you may become part of the militia in an emergency. Contrary to popular belief, the National Guard is NOT the militia, as the National Guard is a trained military force under the control of the government.
"Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. Horrid mischief would ensue were (the law-abiding) deprived of the use of them." - Thomas Paine
Remember, kids: illiteracy is cool. If you took the time to read this, you are clearly a loser who will never get laid. You've been warned.
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| Kerry is anti-gun. [message #119212] |
Sat, 09 October 2004 11:17 |
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glyde51
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Guns suck, that's why there are no guns in Canada, or CRIME for that matter.
No. Seriously. No.
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| Kerry is anti-gun. [message #119213] |
Sat, 09 October 2004 11:18 |
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There's no crime here? That's news to me.
I suck cock and love it... absolutely love it. And I just got banned for being too immature to be allowed to post here.
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| Kerry is anti-gun. [message #119214] |
Sat, 09 October 2004 11:18 |
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DarkDemin
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| SuperFlyingEngi |
I declare this to be the Ignorant Thread.
But anyways, the second amendment doesn't just say "The right to bear arms." It says "The right to bear arms in an organized militia." The second amendment is not there to protect your "right" to owning and operating an M-60 or a sniper rifle, it's there so that a community within the United States will always be able to protect itself.
Of course, the NRA doesn't want you to know about that.
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14 year olds shouldn't blindly read Liberal blabber. The U.N. and John Kerry what to remove our rights to hunting rifles, handguns, and of course you know anything that can be described as an "Assault Weapon." The assualt weapon ban was passed to get the Liberals to shut the fuck up. I enjoy going to the shooting range with my dad and shooting targets for sport. I also like to know I have a gun in my house for protection. My dad is a reserve officer for the local police and he has gotten many death threats, and what are we going to do if we don't have a gun in the house and someone breaks in, in order to kill us all. The NRA was established in order to protect our right to bear arms.
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Guns suck, that's why there are no guns in Canada, or CRIME for that matter.
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As for that...
Crime has risen since Canda passed its small arms ban. I think Aprime can even agree with me on the fact that Criminals get their guns however they can.
* Canada: After enacting stringent gun control laws in 1991 and 1995, Canada has not made its citizens any safer. "The contrast between the criminal violence rates in the United States and in Canada is dramatic," says Canadian criminologist Gary Mauser in 2003. "Over the past decade, the rate of violent crime in Canada has increased while in the United States the violent crime rate has plummeted."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,120638,00.html
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— Australia has also seen its violent crime rates soar after its Port Arthur gun control measures (search) in late 1996. Violent crime rates averaged 32 per cent higher in the six years after the law was passed (from 1997 to 2002) than they did the year before the law in 1996. The same comparisons for armed robbery rates showed increases of 45 percent.
— The 2000 International Crime Victimization Survey, the most recent survey done, shows that the violent crime rate in England and Australia was twice the rate in the US.
— Canada has not gone anywhere near as far as the United Kingdom or Australia. Nevertheless, their gun registration system is costing roughly a thousand times more than promised and has grown to be extremely unpopular, with only 17 percent of Canadians in a poll release this week supporting the system. Nor does the system seem to be providing any protection. The Canadian government recently admitted that they could not identify even a single violent crime that had been solved by registration.
Everyone wants to take guns away from criminals. The problem is that if the law-abiding citizens obey the laws and the criminals don’t, the rules create sitting ducks who cannot defend themselves. While the debate is hardly over, gun control is just another example of government planning that hasn’t lived up to its billing. And like other types of government planning, eventually its failures become too overwhelming to ignore.
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| Kerry is anti-gun. [message #119219] |
Sat, 09 October 2004 11:33 |
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I can't agree with you, maybe if we were in the 90s I would, but now, everything has changed, trust me.
It isn't really a trend anymore in our criminal world, ever since we've got rid of the "motorized gangs".
I suck cock and love it... absolutely love it. And I just got banned for being too immature to be allowed to post here.
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