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| Stop using Nader to win against the Democrats. [message #109444] |
Sun, 22 August 2004 13:36   |
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Crimson
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I think it's ignorant to believe this year's election will happen exactly like the 2000 election did. I don't support Nader being president, hence I wouldn't sign a petition for him to be on the ballot.
I'm the bawss.
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| Stop using Nader to win against the Democrats. [message #109455] |
Sun, 22 August 2004 14:13 |
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heh, blame nodbugger for the arguement. He's the one that kept fighting with us about the fox news thing. All I said was that Canada does get "fox news" and he proceded to, and continued to state that I had lied.
Anyways topic dropped.
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How old are you? 5?
OMG HE STARTED!!111111
You kept arguing with him, therefore you aren't any better.
Cowmisfit is a mobile stupidity generator, most of us already know this, there was no need to help him driving this subject off-topic by commenting on what he wrote.
Oh, and when I'm speaking about Republicans I'm speaking of people with power in the Republican party... Also BIG Republican supporters (mostly groups who donate massive amounts of money to the party).
I suck cock and love it... absolutely love it. And I just got banned for being too immature to be allowed to post here.
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| Stop using Nader to win against the Democrats. [message #109458] |
Sun, 22 August 2004 14:24 |
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FYI, I've edited my post.
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Cowmisfit is a mobile stupidity generator, most of us already know this, there was no need to help him driving this subject off-topic by commenting on what he wrote.
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I suck cock and love it... absolutely love it. And I just got banned for being too immature to be allowed to post here.
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| Stop using Nader to win against the Democrats. [message #109469] |
Sun, 22 August 2004 15:58 |
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cowmisfit
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FYI, I've edited my post.
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Cowmisfit is a mobile stupidity generator, most of us already know this, there was no need to help him driving this subject off-topic by commenting on what he wrote.
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LOL, glad you think that of me Aprime, and everyone else who thinks that of me.
Once again, you can't ratinlize aprime, you just throw out insults OMG OMG IM STUPID, thats why im in 10th taking all 11th grade courses and A+ Certified and CISCO in a few months and only 16. IM SUCH A DUMBASS. :rolleyes: You used to be cool aprime, but since nitrous-oxides fell in you've had soemthing big long and hard shoved up your ass that you need to get out.
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| Stop using Nader to win against the Democrats. [message #109510] |
Sun, 22 August 2004 20:09 |
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Crimson
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Yeah, that's my opinion, too. If their position was so strong they wouldn't have to worry about some pissant candidate "taking their votes".
I'm the bawss.
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| Stop using Nader to win against the Democrats. [message #109577] |
Mon, 23 August 2004 03:29 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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Yeah, that's my opinion, too. If their position was so strong they wouldn't have to worry about some pissant candidate "taking their votes".
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Bob Dole took away votes for George Bush Senior when he was running against Bill Clinton, I'm sure a great number of Republicans complained about that. So is their position weak, too?
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
The Liberal Media At Work
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| Stop using Nader to win against the Democrats. [message #109587] |
Mon, 23 August 2004 04:41 |
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ViperFUD
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Bob Dole took away votes for George Bush Senior when he was running against Bill Clinton, I'm sure a great number of Republicans complained about that. So is their position weak, too?
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Actually, they complained about Ross Perot.
Big-eared motherfucker.
And shepherds we shall be,
For thee, my Lord, for thee.
Power hath descended forth from thy hand;
That our feet may swiftly carry out thy command.
And we shall flow a river forth to thee,
And teeming with souls shall it ever be.
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| Stop using Nader to win against the Democrats. [message #109633] |
Mon, 23 August 2004 09:30 |
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warranto
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but I DO get fox news. Local spokane FOX news.
And of course, not getting on TYPE of fox news automatically makes me biased :rolleyes:
All praise one type of news cast! They know all! Praise their almighty glory!
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There's a big difference between Fox news stations, reporting on local\international news, and Fox News. http://www.foxnews.com/
Do you see that particular station, or not? If you don't, Nodbugger's point (however stupid he may be) is valid.
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Fine.. I had considered the matter dropped, but if you want to continue, so be it.
I in NO WAY referred to the Fox news channel. I in EVERY WAY referred simply to "FOX news". So please how stating this makes me biased, suggests that I lied, whatever. The station I submitted shows "Fox news", regardless of the type.
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| Stop using Nader to win against the Democrats. [message #109653] |
Mon, 23 August 2004 11:00 |
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Crimson
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Yeah, that's my opinion, too. If their position was so strong they wouldn't have to worry about some pissant candidate "taking their votes".
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Bob Dole took away votes for George Bush Senior when he was running against Bill Clinton, I'm sure a great number of Republicans complained about that. So is their position weak, too?
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This Republican wouldn't complain. I mean, in my opinion, any idiot who votes Democrat is taking votes away from Republicans, too... what's the difference? I'll complain about a candidate based on their stance on the issues and past performance in public office. After all, this is really just the longest job interview with the most bosses/interviewees.
I'm the bawss.
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| Stop using Nader to win against the Democrats. [message #109676] |
Mon, 23 August 2004 12:57 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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Bob Dole took away votes for George Bush Senior when he was running against Bill Clinton, I'm sure a great number of Republicans complained about that. So is their position weak, too?
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Actually, they complained about Ross Perot.
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Oh yeah, that's right. Well, the point remains.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
The Liberal Media At Work
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| Stop using Nader to win against the Democrats. [message #110316] |
Thu, 26 August 2004 06:16 |
setstyle
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It is my belief that Nader is running either because he's stupid or he's intentionally taking votes. He should very well know he won't win, or really even get close.
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1. I don't think Nader is stupid. Look at his education record.
2. I also don't think he is aiming to take votes away from anyone. And since he's not stupid, he knows he isn't going to win. He's out to make a statement, a statement that he's not going to give in to monopolized American politics, and that he will stand for what he believes. Look at all the criticism he's endured.
I agree with knight1b and Crimson in that if the Democrats had a strong position to begin with they wouldn't look to blame everyone else for their problems. They did it in 2000 and they're doing it again this year. There's a poll analysis at http://prorev.com/green2000.htm that shows little connection between Gore and Nader votes.
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In the close Florida race, there were similar results: statistically insignificant correlation when the Gore tally changed by only one or two points, but dramatic non-correlation when the change was bigger. For example, in nine successive surveys in which Nader pulled only 2 or 3 points, Gore's total varied by 7 points.
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We know a candidate is not only made of his views, but his personality as well. Nader communicates his ideas more clearly, like Bush, than does Kerry (while the Senator explains why he supports both sides of whatever issue is at hand). Let's think about hypothetical Nader voters, if they had to vote for someone else -- would they all really want to listen to John Kerry play defensive all the time? While they would probably have more Democratic views, they still want a man of action, not dodgeball. Perhaps Kerry should back Nader, not the other way around.
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| Stop using Nader to win against the Democrats. [message #111581] |
Sun, 29 August 2004 03:21 |
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Pak
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Registered: February 2003
Location: Vancouver B.C. Canada
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Nader is a Independent in this Election and all he wants is the Presidentcy hes not helping Bush or Kerry.
Chairman and CEO of Pak Incorporated.
Member of the Liberal Party of Canada.
Member of the Liberal Party of British Columbia.
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| Stop using Nader to win against the Democrats. [message #111608] |
Sun, 29 August 2004 06:28 |
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You couldn't even be arsed to read what I wrote.
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Do I really need to say anything else?
Republicans helping him, secretly funding his campaign trying to make what happened a few years ago happen again.
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You suck, Pak. Not only on IRC, but everywhere.
I suck cock and love it... absolutely love it. And I just got banned for being too immature to be allowed to post here.
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