| Litmus test for liberals [message #109025] |
Fri, 20 August 2004 04:19   |
Phoenix - Aeon
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Need to read more, perhaps, I've never really read anything on ICBMs, I'll settle for the fact that I've had a look at their targetting systems. If you try to fire an ICBM without sattelite assistance chances are you'll miss by about 50 miles. The only system that can target itself is the Tomohawk targetting system, which happens to use cartography, useless unless you're only a few hundred metres above the land. As for not talking about them, people were at the time, they were talking about Saddam attacking Europe and America with WMDs. Or did you think they would do that with Scuds? As for the war not concerning Oil, that was an aspect, something that big can't not be an aspect. Even if oil wasn't a driv9ing issue it will certainly have shaped strategies, notice how careful they were to avoid hitting oilfields. You sir need to stop watching T.V and talk to someone who works with the hardware you claim to know so much about, your information is soefully inadequate.
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| Litmus test for liberals [message #109029] |
Fri, 20 August 2004 05:33 |
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| Phoenix - Aeon |
Need to read more, perhaps, I've never really read anything on ICBMs, I'll settle for the fact that I've had a look at their targetting systems. If you try to fire an ICBM without sattelite assistance chances are you'll miss by about 50 miles. The only system that can target itself is the Tomohawk targetting system, which happens to use cartography, useless unless you're only a few hundred metres above the land.
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Again. They weren't talking about ICBM's. And if you're using biological warheads, 50 miles is a small distance to miss by. Close enolugh to count.
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As for not talking about them, people were at the time, they were talking about Saddam attacking Europe and America with WMDs. Or did you think they would do that with Scuds?
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Let's find out what he said:
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... several weapon types that were forbidden to him, including several hidden long range interceptor aircraft and- surprise, surprise- mobile MRBM launchers...
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* Nuclear-capable long range fighters
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Now, where do you see ICBM? Cause I don't. I see MRBM and long-range fighters.
Oh, and FYI ... long-range fighters could come to the US and bomb us. And they DON'T need sattelites to do it.
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As for the war not concerning Oil, that was an aspect, something that big can't not be an aspect. Even if oil wasn't a driv9ing issue it will certainly have shaped strategies, notice how careful they were to avoid hitting oilfields. You sir need to stop watching T.V and talk to someone who works with the hardware you claim to know so much about, your information is soefully inadequate.
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As far as oil fields go, let's think about this one: do we want to drop bombs on billions of gallons of oil? History flash: Saddam pulls out of Kuwait. The Iraqi's light the oil fields on fire. They burn for months.
It may have to do with wanting oil; I'm not going to debate that. But if you don't understand the hazards of terrain in warfare, well ... maybe you shouldn't be playing video games. I'll just let you run into the Tiberium to attack me, and we'll see how far you get ; ).
And as for knowing the hardware ... I'm just gonna call bullshit on this. You know shit about them that's not avaliable on the internet.
Wr0d.
And shepherds we shall be,
For thee, my Lord, for thee.
Power hath descended forth from thy hand;
That our feet may swiftly carry out thy command.
And we shall flow a river forth to thee,
And teeming with souls shall it ever be.
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| Litmus test for liberals [message #109144] |
Sat, 21 August 2004 08:29 |
Phoenix - Aeon
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Again. They weren't talking about ICBM's
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Let's find out what he said:
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Ehat he said was irrelavent, it was way after the war.I was reffering to comments mnade during the build-up to the war.
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And as for knowing the hardware ... I'm just gonna call bullshit on this. You know shit about them that's not avaliable on the internet.
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Not much I can really say about this one, since the only way I can refute it is by revealing stuff that's not on the internet, and there's a very good reason why it's not there. I'm not saying I know the hardware well, it's jut I know someone who works in military R&D and I've picked up a few things.
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