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ya em,, [message #107672] Fri, 13 August 2004 11:16 Go to next message
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this is probably gonna be less use then renguard, and i personally dont like some of the thiings you are doing for this "patch" but hey its just my opinion, just thought id like to say it Confused
ya em,, [message #107696] Fri, 13 August 2004 11:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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um... ?
ya em,, [message #107708] Fri, 13 August 2004 12:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What he said + STFU NUB!

CP1 > j00
ya em,, [message #107709] Fri, 13 August 2004 12:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yea...I don't get it.

I can understand fixing tanks going over walls, base 2 base, and falling through buildings, but some things just don't need fixed.

NOD has a Sakura, GDI has a Havoc...that's about as balanced as that gets. If you can't handle getting your chopper shot down by a havoc, buy a light tank.

Refilling vehicles? HUH?

If you can't handle someone shooting through the weapons factory glass...buy a vehicle, they blow up.

If it's not broke, don't fix it.
ya em,, [message #107712] Fri, 13 August 2004 12:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you can't handle someone shooting through the weapons factory glass...buy a vehicle, they blow up.
Only dumbasses fall for thatone... Never once have I been blown up, because someone bought a vehicle. Just back out for a couple of seconds and you can continue what you were doing Smile

Renegade IS broke and always has been, it's the most bugged game ever, but that doesn't make it a bad game...These fixes will just make it even better.

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It's Nod, not NOD
ya em,, [message #107715] Fri, 13 August 2004 12:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, I can understand a few fixes but when I start reading about fixing damage points and limited ammo for vehicles I have problems. If someone's shooting through the weapons glass it really doesn't take much for you to run behind them and throw remote c4 or start shooting him with soldiers.
ya em,, [message #107728] Fri, 13 August 2004 13:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You're an idiot. The entire game and its gameplay dynamics are broken. They need to be fixed.

Additionally, it's Nod, not NOD.
ya em,, [message #107731] Fri, 13 August 2004 13:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And you can't handle having your apache shot at by a Havoc, I'll call NOD whatever I fuckin want to, thanks.

That's like saying "ITS n00b NOT NOOB,"

Nobody cares.
ya em,, [message #107732] Fri, 13 August 2004 13:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You seem to care enough to reply, that's odd huh?

You tell me how a n00b cannon is balanced versus aircraft and maybe the RG team will take your suggestion into consideration. But there's only one problem - people almost universally believe aircraft are extremely weak and carry too strong a weapon.
ya em,, [message #107744] Fri, 13 August 2004 13:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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um... ?
What he said + STFU NUB!

CP1 > j00


lol ok, NUB
ya em,, [message #107770] Fri, 13 August 2004 15:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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um... ?
What he said + STFU NUB!

CP1 > j00


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ya em,, [message #107772] Fri, 13 August 2004 16:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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All your flaming is pointless, as we have said all along that the patch will have no game balance/damage/etc changes just bug fixes and enhancements like new console commands. Whatcha gonna fuss about now? Razz
ya em,, [message #107774] Fri, 13 August 2004 16:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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WHAT?! So it will stay the way it is in gameplay?!

Well, so this really is the end of renegay for me. I was hoping RG would change it...

Looks like 100% RenAlert only from now on...


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ya em,, [message #107792] Fri, 13 August 2004 17:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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CP1 will not have any balance changes. However, Aircraftkiller or someone else willing, we will be releasing duplicate maps like C&C_BHS_Walls.mix with balance changes that server owners may optionally host and players may optionally play. We will not "force" nor appear to "force" anyone to play the game differently if they don't want to.

I'm the bawss.
ya em,, [message #107794] Fri, 13 August 2004 17:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Won't be me. I refuse to touch Renegade until one of you has the ambition to try to turn it into what it should have been.
ya em,, [message #107797] Fri, 13 August 2004 18:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't understand what you mean. That's what I just said.

I'm the bawss.
ya em,, [message #107809] Fri, 13 August 2004 19:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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He means you should be more forceful in implementing massive balance changes as quickly as possible without listening to anyone.

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ya em,, [message #107812] Fri, 13 August 2004 20:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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CP1 will not have any balance changes. However, Aircraftkiller or someone else willing, we will be releasing duplicate maps like C&C_BHS_Walls.mix with balance changes that server owners may optionally host and players may optionally play. We will not "force" nor appear to "force" anyone to play the game differently if they don't want to.


What type of changes? What would be the purpose of a "BHS" version of a map?


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ya em,, [message #107813] Fri, 13 August 2004 20:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just complete the core update, bug fixes, new commands... forget the ack-maps, we don't want or need them..

As you clearly stated Crimson, there are those of us who would refuse the Core1 if those types of things were forced upon us, good call on your part.
ya em,, [message #107823] Fri, 13 August 2004 22:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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All your flaming is pointless, as we have said all along that the patch will have no game balance/damage/etc changes just bug fixes and enhancements like new console commands. Whatcha gonna fuss about now? Razz


There are those of us from other communities that just drop by every once in a while and haven't read every single topic, and I was reading about fixing damage points and ACK bitching about snipers. Glad to hear you won't be messing with that, it would be a totally different game.
ya em,, [message #107826] Fri, 13 August 2004 23:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dosen't mean that messing with the game is always for the worst.

WHATEVER, FAGGOT
ya em,, [message #107840] Sat, 14 August 2004 02:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dosen't mean that messing with the game is always for the worst.


True, but there are many changes that some people would like and others wouldn't. I know that if snipers Vs. choppers were changed in CP1 we wouldn't be runing it on our 3 servers, which would be a shame as there are plenty of other things in the patch that look great.


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ya em,, [message #107893] Sat, 14 August 2004 09:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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He means you should be more forceful in implementing massive balance changes as quickly as possible without listening to anyone.


No, I think we should take the game and turn it into a new project like RA is. Except it gets made into what it should be, instead of that craptacular shit it is right now. It would run separate from Renegade, yet you'd get a true C&C experience. And you'd still need Renegade to play online.
ya em,, [message #107913] Sat, 14 August 2004 10:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No, I think we should take the game and turn it into a new project like RA is. Except it gets made into what it should be, instead of that craptacular shit it is right now. It would run separate from Renegade, yet you'd get a true C&C experience. And you'd still need Renegade to play online.


That would be Commando.
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We're talking about an actual project with dedicated team members which would get something done in a timely fashion, not whatever "commando" is.
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