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Wed, 07 July 2004 04:27   |
dead6re
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When the need arises to check the server for known cheats, RenGuard will support it.
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But why would you want to do that. If the server includes cheats, then every1 has the cheats. Plus theres no need to check it if its a fds. only ren ingame hosting that isnt so common as it used to be!
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| Video for mac|1*tc [message #100187] |
Wed, 07 July 2004 11:41 |
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gibberish
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Fair point, but it shouldnt get that far in the first place.
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This is my point.
Right now there is no way for you as a player to know that a given server isn't running a cheat.
The only thing you have today is trust in the server administrator.
I am not asking for anyone to do anything about the status quo I just want players to be aware of the situation.
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| Video for mac|1*tc [message #100188] |
Wed, 07 July 2004 11:46 |
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| dead6re |
But why would you want to do that. If the server includes cheats, then every1 has the cheats. Plus theres no need to check it if its a fds. only ren ingame hosting that isnt so common as it used to be!
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Ok let me give a clear example.
If I wanted to I could code a server side cheat similar to Final Ren; one shot kill against everything (Players, Tanks, Buildings)
Hell with server side I could code it so that I just shoot one of my buildings and all of the other teams players, tanks and buildings die instantly.
Additionally with the code that allows me to check usernames I could make it so that it confirms that the player name matches my name, so it doesn't work for anyone else.
This example is clearly dumb since no-one would play the game however it demonstrates the power of server side cheats.
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| Video for mac|1*tc [message #100826] |
Sat, 10 July 2004 19:14 |
Ty.m.
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To be honest it was Silent Kane who opened it by releasing the GetPlayerName code.
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Too bad I didn't release that. But other people did.
So next time think twice before coming up with such assumptions.
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I swear, if you even try to fault me for that in any way..
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| Video for mac|1*tc [message #100891] |
Sun, 11 July 2004 11:08 |
Ty.m.
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Xptek, why do you ask to have your forum account removed, and then create a new one and make it obvious that it's you? :eh:
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I have other one locked up as best as I can since you or Crimson can't be bothered to do it. But I'm not letting SK sit here and "OMG XPTEK LEAKORED MY SOURCE CODE" when I didn't do it.
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That's something completely different, n00b.
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Why do you feel the need to stick n00b after every damn post you make?
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| Video for mac|1*tc [message #100995] |
Mon, 12 July 2004 01:00 |
Ty.m.
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A certain member seems to enjoy using me as a scapegoat. I really can't be sure who you're talking about since 1/2 of you seem to think I'm a good person and the other's (namely Crimson) seem to think I'm the child of the devil.
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| Video for mac|1*tc [message #100996] |
Mon, 12 July 2004 01:12 |
Ty.m.
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Fair point, but it shouldnt get that far in the first place.
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This is my point.
Right now there is no way for you as a player to know that a given server isn't running a cheat.
The only thing you have today is trust in the server administrator.
I am not asking for anyone to do anything about the status quo I just want players to be aware of the situation.
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This has been a possibility long before the ID code got out. My servers have been running a "cheat" for quite a long time that turn admins into invincible chickens with uber hight jump and extreme speed. This isn't abused but I'm sure an irresponsible server owner could find something horrible to do with it.
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| Video for mac|1*tc [message #104752] |
Thu, 29 July 2004 02:05 |
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back to the movie....
It is clear that whoever took it had a "clear scope" mod.
If this was on Black-cell, that person would at the least recieve a temp ban. I'm not sure about the rules on n00bstories servers...
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| Video for mac|1*tc [message #105565] |
Sun, 01 August 2004 14:30 |
TwI$Ta
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why is clearscope a server, id use the regular scope if it didnt have that annoying green shit
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| Video for mac|1*tc [message #105667] |
Sun, 01 August 2004 23:20 |
imortalfu
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Moderator - Linux FDS & RenGuard Forums
Member # 26
What a choice moderator, and what a tear in interests. You work to keep cheating out of Renegade, cheating that you have no control over. Yet you enjoy cheating the way nobody else can, and the way nobody else can stop you. I bet you get off to the fact that you can cheat like you do (and dont call it anything but cheating, you are spawning flametanks out of thin air for your team because you are losing, regardless if it is your server or not you are ruining the game for someone else), I bet you were picked on in highschool because you were some kind of scrawny little pimplefaced nerd, and now you want the chance to do the same to ther people.
There are 3 types of people in this world, The people who walk on others, the people who get walked on, and the people who are kind of in the middle. You were probably the guy who got walked on all the time, and now you want to do the walking to get back at everyone, and your choice playfield to do it is in the safty of your own server, on your favorite game, using glorified cheats to make yourself some kind of godlike figure. And the only reason why people will never call you a n00b for it is because of your affiliation with Crimson and the gang at BHS. So go ahead and keep doing what your doing, you think there aren't people in the other comunities who aren't smart enough to replicate your precious bhs.dll files and to extrapolate new cheats from them, well your ignorance is only surpassed by the fact that you think it's fun to cheat, if only you can do it and nobody else. 10 bucks says that if someone does replicate this cheat and uses it against you in a game you will go apeshit, ban them, ban them from every RG server and ban any instances of there name from ever using RG or playing in a RG server.
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| Video for mac|1*tc [message #105673] |
Mon, 02 August 2004 00:21 |
Weirdo
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Imortalfu:
I wasn't in the game, but looking at the movie, it looks more like he is just fooling around with his abillities then really using them to win the game. Like all those nuke and ion beacons at the same time.
Actually I find nothing wrong with playing like this. Westwood did a bit the same thing with the beta-testers, since they used the extra characters and the beta testers didn't know what was happening to them.
Size doesn't matter.
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Mon, 02 August 2004 02:20 |
imortalfu
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Imortalfu:
I wasn't in the game, but looking at the movie, it looks more like he is just fooling around with his abillities then really using them to win the game. Like all those nuke and ion beacons at the same time.
Actually I find nothing wrong with playing like this. Westwood did a bit the same thing with the beta-testers, since they used the extra characters and the beta testers didn't know what was happening to them.
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Oh, so spawning like 7 flame tanks when his team was losing, he just let them sit there and was like "I AM ONLY TESTING THIS OUT"
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| Video for mac|1*tc [message #105680] |
Mon, 02 August 2004 02:31 |
Weirdo
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Imortalfu:
I wasn't in the game, but looking at the movie, it looks more like he is just fooling around with his abillities then really using them to win the game. Like all those nuke and ion beacons at the same time.
Actually I find nothing wrong with playing like this. Westwood did a bit the same thing with the beta-testers, since they used the extra characters and the beta testers didn't know what was happening to them.
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Oh, so spawning like 7 flame tanks when his team was losing, he just let them sit there and was like "I AM ONLY TESTING THIS OUT"
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True, be if he really cared so much about winning, I think he could have won easy on his own, instead of organising a rush. Gaining all the points on his own.
Size doesn't matter.
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| Video for mac|1*tc [message #105768] |
Mon, 02 August 2004 14:56 |
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Crimson
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It was a non-laddered server and it was owned and operated by the lead for the RenGuard team, and a director of BlackHand Studios. He's not in this to cheat. These types of functionality can be used in custom maps to create different sorts of game modes, rewards, and functionality to give map makers more power than before.
I'm the bawss.
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