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| my thoughts, for what it's worth. [message #59123] |
Wed, 24 December 2003 21:55   |
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NukeIt15
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Registered: February 2003
Location: Out to lunch
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Keeping in mind I have NO clue how to mod, or how they work, etc...unbiased "consumer" opinion here:
After having spent the better part of four hours going over every action I could think of with reborn, I can honestly say it has not lived up to the expectations I had for it.
Actually, It's really, really bad. Worse than my sister on PMS bad.
The single most disgusting problem, IMHO- deployable units are more lethal to the driver than to the enemy. Not so bad when you deploy them, but forget about UN-deploying them, especially with the juggernaut- the vehicle either crushes you as it un-deploys, or you fall out of the driver's seat to your death(juggernaut). In fact, there is only one good driver for the juggernaut, and that's a jump-jet infantry, simply because they fall slower. Really, that's just wrong.
An interesting problem with the subterrainean units(other than the rather unimaginative "underground" maps): While toasting an RPG tower with a devil's tongue, with 3/4 of full health(not to mention the untouched driver inside), I instantly die, vehicle and all. All other defenses were gone, so it could not have been anything else. No explosion, no death cry from the soldier. One minute I'm there, the next minute I'm shimmering in front of a purchase terminal. Now I knew there was alien technology in TS, but this is rediculous.
The jump jet infantry...yeah, come on. More like "spring shoes on speed", because that's just about all it is. You jump. You move. You come down. There's no way to sustain your flight; you have to land no matter what. That's not jump jet, that's a regular jump. You'd be better off making the jumpjet a vehicle; at least then it would be able to have hovering like the original JJ infantry.
The refineries look nothing like the TS refineries. Not even a resemblance. Not only that, but the harvesters sometimes can't even "dock" all the way, so no income for you.
While I'm on harvesters, the ultimate canyon map has a problem with this: the GDI harvester path runs through the refinery, not around it; the damn thing can't get out of the base unless you ram it with something. This isn't much of a problem once you have vehicles, but it shouldn't happen; more attention should have been paid to that.
Vehicles don't always spawn when purchased. The orca fighter and harpy, for example(at least from what I've seen) must be purchased twice to appear.
And as everyone else says, the installer blows goats. Nothing should EVER be released without a decent installer. EVER. Imagine if Westwood had released Renegade with a faulty installer, and we had to manually take the files from the CD and put them in the directory? I can't speak for anyone else, but I'd ask for a refund. Too bad you can't get refunds for free downloads.
With a LOT more work, this COULD turn into something decent. But this wasn't ready for a public release. 
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| C&C Reborn is released [message #59160] |
Thu, 25 December 2003 07:34 |
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Registered: February 2003
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And of course there's the little thing of DOUBLE the system requirements of Renegade....
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Because most of the textures are uncompressed TGAs that usually are over 2 MB/texture. Talk about unoptimization?
The idea of C&C Reborn is good, but how it is employed is bad.
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| C&C Reborn is released [message #59179] |
Thu, 25 December 2003 11:00 |
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smwScott
Messages: 225
Registered: February 2003
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I may have spoken a little too soon when I said I thought it was pretty good. I joined a multiplayer game and noticed my FPS hung around 20, as opposed to 70 on normal Ren and Ren Alert. Not to mention I saw people getting stuck in buildings and a whole bunch of bitching. Not sure how much of it was lag and how much was glitch's, but I'll wait a bit before I start to play it online.
If they fix it then it could become a good game, but now it isn't worth playing. Also the deployable vehicles are the worst, whenever I deploy I die.
-smwScott
47% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
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| C&C Reborn is released [message #59214] |
Thu, 25 December 2003 18:32 |
Battousai
Messages: 50
Registered: October 2003
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Well for all you people out there who know a lot about making mods why don't you just help them fix their shit?
Don't you think that if it worked with no bugs it would be awesome?
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| C&C Reborn is released [message #59215] |
Thu, 25 December 2003 18:42 |
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England
Messages: 618
Registered: February 2003
Location: High Wycombe, England
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Im really pissed off with this, im a huge tiberian sun fan, and ive been following this closely, impressed by the screenies ive seen etc..
Anyway, on PCNC today *BAM* Reborn released, Sweet. Download '2'? files that are in German?!
And the dam game doesnt run.
In the end it doesn't matter if you are who you say you are. You will still mean nothing to me.
When i have kids, everytime i drive past a fast food restaurant, im gonna punch my kid in the face, then they'll never wanna come..
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| C&C Reborn is released [message #59220] |
Thu, 25 December 2003 20:44 |
Battousai
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Registered: October 2003
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I didn't know you guys tried to help them already. In that case I guess I don't really know what to think, I can't believe they would turn down help when it seems like it was so hard for them to get it out.
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| C&C Reborn is released [message #59267] |
Fri, 26 December 2003 15:07 |
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IRON FART
Messages: 1989
Registered: September 2003
Location: LOS ANGELES
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Well for all you people out there who know a lot about making mods why don't you just help them fix their shit?
Don't you think that if it worked with no bugs it would be awesome?
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Don't you think that some of us have tried, and they refuse to listen?
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Try posting on the Reborn forums, complementing them, telling them how wonderfull you think the mod is, and i GUARANTEE that Angel of Nothing will flame you, make you look stupid and lock the topic. They don't listen...they are arrogant.
I would have expected version 1.5 to have come out by now! and they are on some stupid beta.
As for rating the mod, I give it a ZERO because their web installer won't install anything.
And also what was the point of having an english/german version? Half of the English version is German.
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