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Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta 4! [message #464329 is a reply to message #463834] Mon, 12 March 2012 17:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If I understand you correctly, TT is correct and RR is wrong. Both use the same resolution, but TT displays black bars on the sides in the menu because otherwise the menus would be stretched. Seeing from the screenshots, RR stretches both the menus and the actual game just like stock (without RR) does. TT fixes the stretching, so what you are describing is intentional.

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Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta 4! [message #464362 is a reply to message #464329] Tue, 13 March 2012 11:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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StealthEye wrote on Mon, 12 March 2012 17:35

If I understand you correctly, TT is correct and RR is wrong. Both use the same resolution, but TT displays black bars on the sides in the menu because otherwise the menus would be stretched. Seeing from the screenshots, RR stretches both the menus and the actual game just like stock (without RR) does. TT fixes the stretching, so what you are describing is intentional.



Yes, TT did good work in the menu, but the problem is TT also unscretched the view ingame, so its not in wide-screen anymore. Watch Screenshots ingame, you will see the difference.
I hope you understand what I mean. Smile

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta 4! [message #464363 is a reply to message #463834] Tue, 13 March 2012 11:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It is wide screen, it's just not stretched. Things don't look too wide any more. Circles will actually show up as circles instead of ovals now, etc. Smile I see the difference in the screenshots, and the way TT does it seems to be correct and stock is wrong.

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Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta 4! [message #464364 is a reply to message #464363] Tue, 13 March 2012 11:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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StealthEye wrote on Tue, 13 March 2012 11:04

It is wide screen, it's just not stretched. Things don't look too wide any more. Circles will actually show up as circles instead of ovals now, etc. Smile I see the difference in the screenshots, and the way TT does it seems to be correct and stock is wrong.



ok, so it just has been corrected.
Anyway, thanks for helping. Smile

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Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta 4! [message #464380 is a reply to message #463834] Tue, 13 March 2012 15:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Call me crazy but I kind of like the way Renegade looks with how stock (or RR?) looks in widescreen. I also could've sworn that one used to be able to see his own feet while running out in infantry or the back of the tank... Maybe i'm just nostalgic lol.
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i've tried this, and it does not work. does anybody know how long it will be until this will be fixed? it is making for some really bad gameplay. i think i've tried everything and still no improvements. i've crashed 2 times now, and fps drops all the time after about the first 30 sec into the game. Huh
Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta 4! [message #464602 is a reply to message #464601] Sat, 17 March 2012 19:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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bigjimer34 wrote on Sat, 17 March 2012 21:41

i've tried this, and it does not work. does anybody know how long it will be until this will be fixed? it is making for some really bad gameplay. i think i've tried everything and still no improvements. i've crashed 2 times now, and fps drops all the time after about the first 30 sec into the game. Huh
To the people experiencing FPS drops, try going to "options" then "configuration" then "expert mode" then set anti-aliasing mode to "none" and see if that does anything to your FPS issues.

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta 4! [message #464604 is a reply to message #464602] Sat, 17 March 2012 21:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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bigjimer34 wrote on Sat, 17 March 2012 19:42

bigjimer34 wrote on Sat, 17 March 2012 21:41

i've tried this, and it does not work. does anybody know how long it will be until this will be fixed? it is making for some really bad gameplay. i think i've tried everything and still no improvements. i've crashed 2 times now, and fps drops all the time after about the first 30 sec into the game. Huh
To the people experiencing FPS drops, try going to "options" then "configuration" then "expert mode" then set anti-aliasing mode to "none" and see if that does anything to your FPS issues.




If your computer is even somewhat modern (i'm talking about 512MB VRAM GPU's) it should handle maximum FXAA... It could be more driver related then hardware related..
Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta 4! [message #464610 is a reply to message #464601] Sun, 18 March 2012 06:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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bigjimer34 wrote on Sun, 18 March 2012 03:41

i've tried this, and it does not work. does anybody know how long it will be until this will be fixed? it is making for some really bad gameplay. i think i've tried everything and still no improvements. i've crashed 2 times now, and fps drops all the time after about the first 30 sec into the game. Huh

Well, if you would contact StealthEye so you can help him test stuff it'll probably go faster.


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Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta 4! [message #464795 is a reply to message #464610] Thu, 22 March 2012 13:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This one was today, crashed happened with what look like some kind of runtime error right after an ION cannon took out the refinery on Canyon.

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Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta 4! [message #465106 is a reply to message #463834] Fri, 30 March 2012 01:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Added the crashdump posted by TankClash to the bug tracker/todo list.


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Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta 4! [message #465500 is a reply to message #463834] Wed, 04 April 2012 08:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That's a weird crash. It seems that somehow a (harveseter?) spawner was corrupted so that the Refinery code crashed when disabling the spawner. I am marking it CANTIDENTIFY until we get a similar crashdump again.

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Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta 4! [message #466819 is a reply to message #463834] Sat, 28 April 2012 13:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just wanted to say, a lot of these "map fixes" suck.

Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta 4! [message #466820 is a reply to message #466819] Sat, 28 April 2012 13:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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IronWarrior wrote on Sat, 28 April 2012 16:50

Just wanted to say, a lot of these "map fixes" suck.


Can you be a little specific? lol
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IronWarrior wrote on Sat, 28 April 2012 16:50

Just wanted to say, a lot of these "map fixes" suck.




You realize you don't have to use them right?


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Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta 4! [message #466829 is a reply to message #463834] Sat, 28 April 2012 14:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Please tell exactly what sucks, so that it can be improved.

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Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta 4! [message #467328 is a reply to message #463834] Sun, 13 May 2012 05:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I can't install this update because the "next"-button in the installer is grayed out?
(I run it as admin...)

Edit: Problem solved, the preset path was wrong

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Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta 4! [message #468096 is a reply to message #463834] Sun, 27 May 2012 18:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have a crash on mission 2 on the campaign. After I blow the PP and leave it, I am about to re-enter the elevator to go down and continue the mission, but then it crashes. The first time it happened, it told me that a couple of files were missing. The three crashes since have not told me the same. I don't know what is going on.
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I tried restarting the mission and skipping the PP by bumrushing the OB with my med and got to the end of the mission and as I got on the plane the game crashed. "Renegade has encountered an internal error and could not continue."
Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta 4! [message #468130 is a reply to message #463834] Mon, 28 May 2012 18:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have fixed a bug (as of yesterday) related to the creation of single player save game files.
Any save game file created with a version of 4.0 prior to whatever the next build released is is highly likely to cause a crash at some point.

The issue was that information about which object a script was attached to was not being saved correctly so when the script was destroyed, it was not removed from the object. This meant that later, the code would try to do stuff to all scripts on an object, read the no-longer-existing script and crash.

No there is no way to repair the save games (its impossible to know which object each script was meant to be attached to) the only way is to use pre-4.0 save games or to start the game from the beginning. Note that the save games that appear on the list and correspond to specific levels (and start you off at the beginning of that level), those aren't affected as they are not really save games, just special flags in the settings somewhere to tell the game which levels you have completed.


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Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta 4! [message #468156 is a reply to message #463834] Tue, 29 May 2012 12:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The save files aren't the problem. I can load and play any save file just fine. These crashes come out of the blue. Finishing of the PP in mission 2 seems to be a trigger for these. Also the end of that mission as I am loading the results and stats of that completion, it crashes. It doesn't have anything, for me, to do with the saves. Something else is going on.
Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta 4! [message #468172 is a reply to message #463834] Tue, 29 May 2012 17:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The crash doesn't happen when you load the save file, it happens later on when something specific in-game happens (in this case the destruction of that power plant)

More specifically what happens is that if you have loaded a save file created with 4.0, then when you destroy the power plant, it destroys some scripts (because of the way those scripts are written). Destroying those scripts causes the game to crash. Same thing happens when you complete the level without destroying the power plant (the scripts get destroyed which = crash.

I can confirm from my testing that if I load a save game made with 4.0 then blow up the power plant, it crashes. If I load a save game made after the fix I put into 4.0 and blow up the power plant, it does not crash in the same place anymore.

Once 4.0 beta 5 is out, if people are still having crashes and they are NOT using a save game made with 4.0 earlier than beta 5, I will investigate further.


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Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta 4! [message #468194 is a reply to message #463834] Wed, 30 May 2012 07:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That makes sense. I am new to these forums and you may have mentioned this elsewhere, but what is the ETA to TT4 beta 5? Or does it not have a date? How about a general timeline?
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So, I had an installation fail trying to install 4.0 Beta 5(? this is topic for 4 but when I went to new installer page it said 5).

To give you a little info first off....I'm running a pre-ren made computer (my laptop died a few weeks ago and haven't gotten a new one yet) running a version of Windows ME skinned to look like XP and not updated since early 2002. I'm pretty sure my issue is due to my computer being old and a POS.

That being said, after it failed this is the only msg I got.

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Re: Tiberian Technologies releases TT-scripts 4.0 open beta 4! [message #469643 is a reply to message #463834] Sat, 23 June 2012 06:52 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Please create a new topic for any issues next time.

Can you check if you have a mixcheck.exe in your Renegade folder? If so, run it. If not, try reinstalling TT and make sure you have administrator permissions when installing. If mixcheck completes successfully everything should be alright.


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