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Re: New Build - Computer [message #446110 is a reply to message #446012] Fri, 22 April 2011 23:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hex wrote on Thu, 21 April 2011 05:50

halo2pac wrote on Wed, 20 April 2011 03:13

you need more than 600 watts for the rig you got.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010&nm_mc=EMC-IG NEFL041911&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL041911-_-EMC-041911-Index-_-PowerSupplies-_-1713 9010-L05C

Stay with Legit brands. Corsiar, coolmaster, asus, antec.

Diablotech is on the rise for psus also.



No you don't, I doubt it would use any more than 450w (true not peak)

the 470 is not light on power consumption. I wouldn't risk going that low on a quad core system with a power hungry fermi card, no way. Maxing out a PSU is a terrible idea. 600 seems like the perfect sweet spot.

IOPs over speed is a great choice. Looks like a good rig. I understand the necessity for raid 1 if it's a work PC. If it's that important you should be doing backups to an external to be safe IMO.


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Re: New Build - Computer [message #446120 is a reply to message #446110] Sat, 23 April 2011 04:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Homey wrote on Sat, 23 April 2011 08:59

Hex wrote on Thu, 21 April 2011 05:50

halo2pac wrote on Wed, 20 April 2011 03:13

you need more than 600 watts for the rig you got.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010&nm_mc=EMC-IG NEFL041911&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL041911-_-EMC-041911-Index-_-PowerSupplies-_-1713 9010-L05C

Stay with Legit brands. Corsiar, coolmaster, asus, antec.

Diablotech is on the rise for psus also.



No you don't, I doubt it would use any more than 450w (true not peak)

the 470 is not light on power consumption. I wouldn't risk going that low on a quad core system with a power hungry fermi card, no way. Maxing out a PSU is a terrible idea. 600 seems like the perfect sweet spot.

IOPs over speed is a great choice. Looks like a good rig. I understand the necessity for raid 1 if it's a work PC. If it's that important you should be doing backups to an external to be safe IMO.

RAID is not a backup heh.... If a virus comes along you'll still lose data if the virus wants to. RAID only offers you speed an security against a disk failure.
Also, if you delete a file on RAID1/0/5/10/w/e it's still gone. With backups you can retrieve them, not with RAID (recover tools don't count as often enough it's not possible to recover.


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Re: New Build - Computer [message #446123 is a reply to message #446120] Sat, 23 April 2011 04:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Sat, 23 April 2011 07:09

Homey wrote on Sat, 23 April 2011 08:59

Hex wrote on Thu, 21 April 2011 05:50

halo2pac wrote on Wed, 20 April 2011 03:13

you need more than 600 watts for the rig you got.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010&nm_mc=EMC-IG NEFL041911&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL041911-_-EMC-041911-Index-_-PowerSupplies-_-1713 9010-L05C

Stay with Legit brands. Corsiar, coolmaster, asus, antec.

Diablotech is on the rise for psus also.



No you don't, I doubt it would use any more than 450w (true not peak)

the 470 is not light on power consumption. I wouldn't risk going that low on a quad core system with a power hungry fermi card, no way. Maxing out a PSU is a terrible idea. 600 seems like the perfect sweet spot.

IOPs over speed is a great choice. Looks like a good rig. I understand the necessity for raid 1 if it's a work PC. If it's that important you should be doing backups to an external to be safe IMO.

RAID is not a backup heh.... If a virus comes along you'll still lose data if the virus wants to. RAID only offers you speed an security against a disk failure.
Also, if you delete a file on RAID1/0/5/10/w/e it's still gone. With backups you can retrieve them, not with RAID (recover tools don't count as often enough it's not possible to recover.

Yes, that's why I said it's good to do both. RAID is good in case of a disk failure, tbh unlikely with SSDs. Backups for non hardware issues.

Any important data I have is on multiple drives and online. If it's really important it shouldn't be inside the same pc.


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Re: New Build - Computer [message #446124 is a reply to message #446123] Sat, 23 April 2011 05:23 Go to previous message
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Homey wrote on Sat, 23 April 2011 13:39

EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Sat, 23 April 2011 07:09

Homey wrote on Sat, 23 April 2011 08:59

Hex wrote on Thu, 21 April 2011 05:50

halo2pac wrote on Wed, 20 April 2011 03:13

you need more than 600 watts for the rig you got.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010&nm_mc=EMC-IG NEFL041911&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL041911-_-EMC-041911-Index-_-PowerSupplies-_-1713 9010-L05C

Stay with Legit brands. Corsiar, coolmaster, asus, antec.

Diablotech is on the rise for psus also.



No you don't, I doubt it would use any more than 450w (true not peak)

the 470 is not light on power consumption. I wouldn't risk going that low on a quad core system with a power hungry fermi card, no way. Maxing out a PSU is a terrible idea. 600 seems like the perfect sweet spot.

IOPs over speed is a great choice. Looks like a good rig. I understand the necessity for raid 1 if it's a work PC. If it's that important you should be doing backups to an external to be safe IMO.

RAID is not a backup heh.... If a virus comes along you'll still lose data if the virus wants to. RAID only offers you speed an security against a disk failure.
Also, if you delete a file on RAID1/0/5/10/w/e it's still gone. With backups you can retrieve them, not with RAID (recover tools don't count as often enough it's not possible to recover.

Yes, that's why I said it's good to do both. RAID is good in case of a disk failure, tbh unlikely with SSDs. Backups for non hardware issues.

Any important data I have is on multiple drives and online. If it's really important it shouldn't be inside the same pc.

I suspected as such, but it wasn't really clear imho, and there are enough people that think their data is safe with just RAID.


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