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| Re: Should we ban the burqa? [message #430325 is a reply to message #430322] |
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| IAmFenix wrote on Mon, 07 June 2010 15:54 |
| Goztow wrote on Mon, 07 June 2010 07:56 |
The first steps have been made in the legal process to ban "every outfit that makes someone completely unidentifiable".
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I completely agree with this statement, unless it's for some special occasion(Halloween as one prime example), it's really a safety issue for anyone else around them, because ANYONE could be hiding under any outfit that makes them unidentifiable.
It could be allowed in homes or religious places, but otherwise it could be a potential problem.
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So what your saying i could be arrested in the future for wearing a purple Teletubbies suit?
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| Re: Should we ban the burqa? [message #430328 is a reply to message #430325] |
Mon, 07 June 2010 14:42 |
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| Kimb wrote on Mon, 07 June 2010 22:24 |
| IAmFenix wrote on Mon, 07 June 2010 15:54 |
| Goztow wrote on Mon, 07 June 2010 07:56 |
The first steps have been made in the legal process to ban "every outfit that makes someone completely unidentifiable".
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I completely agree with this statement, unless it's for some special occasion(Halloween as one prime example), it's really a safety issue for anyone else around them, because ANYONE could be hiding under any outfit that makes them unidentifiable.
It could be allowed in homes or religious places, but otherwise it could be a potential problem.
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So what your saying i could be arrested in the future for wearing a purple Teletubbies suit?
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With some common sense applied, someone in a fancy dress costume walking down a street is probably not planning to attack somewhere.
Someone concealing their identity in an airport, however...
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| halokid wrote on Mon, 11 October 2010 08:46 |
| R315r4z0r wrote on Mon, 11 October 2010 15:35 |
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the hell is that?
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| Re: Should we ban the burqa? [message #430329 is a reply to message #430328] |
Mon, 07 June 2010 14:44 |
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| CarrierII wrote on Mon, 07 June 2010 23:42 |
| Kimb wrote on Mon, 07 June 2010 22:24 |
| IAmFenix wrote on Mon, 07 June 2010 15:54 |
| Goztow wrote on Mon, 07 June 2010 07:56 |
The first steps have been made in the legal process to ban "every outfit that makes someone completely unidentifiable".
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I completely agree with this statement, unless it's for some special occasion(Halloween as one prime example), it's really a safety issue for anyone else around them, because ANYONE could be hiding under any outfit that makes them unidentifiable.
It could be allowed in homes or religious places, but otherwise it could be a potential problem.
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So what your saying i could be arrested in the future for wearing a purple Teletubbies suit?
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With some common sense applied, someone in a fancy dress costume walking down a street is probably not planning to attack somewhere.
Someone concealing their identity in an airport, however...
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Why not? I guess it's easy enough to get a huge mascot uniform and fill it up with explosives. Walk to a busy street and do boom!
So with common sense applied, the lawl counts for everyone.
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| Re: Should we ban the burqa? [message #430355 is a reply to message #430168] |
Mon, 07 June 2010 23:22 |
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This is how it's currently proposed in belgium. It has already passed the chamber.
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| Re: Should we ban the burqa? [message #430415 is a reply to message #430168] |
Wed, 09 June 2010 03:04 |
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Historically there have been other races commit acts of terrorism, yes. However, none have compared in numbers to the amount of Muslim terrorists we live with in the world today.
Also, the IRA gave up their weapons. When the Oklahoma bombing happened their was 5000 IRA supporters celebrating it.
Millions of Muslims celebrated 9/11 from Morocco to Indonesia.
Just to reiterate what I am saying:
Not all Muslims are terrorists, but it's a sad truth that nearly all terrorists are Muslim.
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| Re: Should we ban the burqa? [message #430436 is a reply to message #430168] |
Wed, 09 June 2010 15:50 |
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I'm American,and I strongly believe in the freedoms the Constitution and ammendments give.
I'm tired of the government taking our freedoms for our "safety".
The patriot acts already shits on the constitution enough,we don't need anymore laws that strip us of our rights.
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| Re: Should we ban the burqa? [message #430437 is a reply to message #430436] |
Wed, 09 June 2010 16:10 |
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it's a nice statement and i certainly agree with it on principle (we don't have a bill of rights over here and it'd be cool if we did, we certainly don't have freedom of speech) but could you be a bit more specific?
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| Re: Should we ban the burqa? [message #430438 is a reply to message #430437] |
Wed, 09 June 2010 16:30 |
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The only problem is that I don't think many women who wear burqa's are doing it on their own accord.
Your US constitution enshrines liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, and those women's right to both of those basic privileges are probably being eroded by domineering men, using overbearing Quaranic verses to legitimize the wearing of such a restrictive piece of clothing.
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| Re: Should we ban the burqa? [message #430440 is a reply to message #430401] |
Wed, 09 June 2010 16:38 |
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| reborn wrote on Wed, 09 June 2010 07:16 |
No, but that nearly all terrorists are Muslim.
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IRA/ETA are muslim as well? I think that terrorism isn't exactly locked to one religion. Also think of Falun Gong in China as another example. While China is more off the bad ass there (human rights and such), they do present Falun Gong as terrorists.
Don't forget that the resistance in WWII where terrorist to the regime in Europe as well.
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| Re: Should we ban the burqa? [message #430460 is a reply to message #430440] |
Thu, 10 June 2010 02:03 |
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| nikki6ixx wrote on Wed, 09 June 2010 18:30 |
The only problem is that I don't think many women who wear burqa's are doing it on their own accord.
Your US constitution enshrines liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, and those women's right to both of those basic privileges are probably being eroded by domineering men, using overbearing Quaranic verses to legitimize the wearing of such a restrictive piece of clothing.
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You got it, nikki. This is what I have been saying for so long. In America, we are told how it's an awesome multicultural enviroment and can now help ourselves to freedom and what not, but in reality, it is really a highly segregated system where each cultural group commands its own.
So the opportunity of the people from these groups to break out and truly be free is limited because the "group" they are from doesn't give a shit about the Constitution or the new freedoms available to them. Instead the dominating blowhards within such cultural groups force the old system onto their children and hide behind their vain cultural heritage or religion.
I always thought this was one of the problems with modern immigration. One example I can use is myself and a conservative Indian blowhard I knew from high school. You can say he is a product of Indian culture. Brought up by zealots (both religiously and culturally), he thinks dating is a "sin" and represents "legalized adultery." He also refused to go to high school prom saying how it was "immoral." I always put this down to him being an intolerant blinded asshole disrespectful of other lifestyles. So in my opinion, he is like a Muslim woman living in the west who wants to wear the burqa because she don't know any better; they are brainwashed and brought up to think that way.
Then you have people like me, and I honestly I never really gave a crap about culture or nationalism due to living in too many countries and the fact I left India when I was only 8. While I don't dislike other "cultures" I had always seen these as divisive inhibitions. So eitherway, I found the American lifestyle incredibly appealing and free and a welcome breather. I had no differences of opinion with dating and despite having the same type of religious-cultural zealots as parents, I didn't get influenced by their views. So when it was time for me to go to the high school prom with my best lady-friend five years ago, the reply was a silent "no-no." And my parents said afterwards what a "good boy" I am to them for not going! Idiots! So then, my case is comparable to that of a Muslim woman who is actually forced to wear the burqa eventhough she don't want to wear it.
It all comes down to the dominating men with "culture shock" that are the problem. It could be the Muslim blowhard men or say culturally and religiously motivated people like my parents. It's these people that must be stopped for the problem to go away but tbh, I don't know how that will be done.
This being said, I think it is in a way unfair to ask these of western governmenets and western peoples. Because it is a problem immigrants are bringing to you...another headache for you to deal with. And one way to solve it is to ignore it and let the various sub-cultures in western society to stay the way they are (along with the broken hearts and miserable lives). I see the banning of the burqa as a step to integration even though it seems to go against the western view of free choice. Well, in this case I can say, "free coice" was clearly being abused.
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Thu, 10 June 2010 09:58 |
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| renalpha wrote on Thu, 10 June 2010 17:48 |
i almost kinda agree with reborn.
I got a good reason though, Taliban killed my causin in afghanistan.
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And uhm caused the 9/11 
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