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Re: Fanboy Thread #4 - Space Opera [message #407515 is a reply to message #407505] Mon, 19 October 2009 02:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dover wrote on Mon, 19 October 2009 03:19

Star Trek is a far better series than Star Wars. Not only are the universe and characters better developed, but it's actually semi-plausible. That, and there's plenty more material out there to enjoy, and because most of it comes in the form of television episodes, you don't have to watch all of it to know what the hell is going on.

On he other hand, Star Wars is just flashy smoke and mirrors. Laser swords? "The force"? It's like Lord of the Rings in space.


Also, Star Trek has this man:
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Agreed.

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Re: Fanboy Thread #4 - Space Opera [message #407516 is a reply to message #407000] Mon, 19 October 2009 02:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I prefer ST over SW but they are both complete different sci-fi genres. However, since lucas turned sw into a kids adventure (target audience 12yo +/-) when releasing episode 1-3 its a clear case

ST >> star wars

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Re: Fanboy Thread #4 - Space Opera [message #407519 is a reply to message #407505] Mon, 19 October 2009 03:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dover wrote on Mon, 19 October 2009 02:19

Star Trek is a far better series than Star Wars. Not only are the universe and characters better developed, but it's actually semi-plausible. That, and there's plenty more material out there to enjoy, and because most of it comes in the form of television episodes, you don't have to watch all of it to know what the hell is going on.

On he other hand, Star Wars is just flashy smoke and mirrors. Laser swords? "The force"? It's like Lord of the Rings in space.


Also, Star Trek has this man:
index.php?t=getfile&id=12024&private=0

Fuck. You have a good point.

Star Wars USED to be pretty cool, though, despite it being pretty showy. Nowadays, it sucks balls :[. It's like watching Naruto or Bleadh- you have to wait 100 fucking episodes for anything to happen, and the rest is retarded bullshit no one cares about.

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Re: Fanboy Thread #4 - Space Opera [message #407536 is a reply to message #407000] Mon, 19 October 2009 03:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Fanboy Thread #4 - Space Opera [message #450790 is a reply to message #407516] Sat, 06 August 2011 14:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wiener wrote on Mon, 19 October 2009 05:56

I prefer ST over SW but they are both complete different sci-fi genres. However, since lucas turned sw into a kids adventure (target audience 12yo +/-) when releasing episode 1-3 its a clear case

ST >> star wars


Star Wars is not science-fiction. It's considered to be science-fantasy. Star Trek is focused on established and yet-to-be discovered physics, Star Wars is about "the force" and other random mythological forces that make it a fantasy title and not a science-fiction title.

The two are barely comparable. The only thing they have in common is that they are primarily set in space.

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Re: Fanboy Thread #4 - Space Opera [message #450795 is a reply to message #407112] Sat, 06 August 2011 15:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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nope.avi wrote on Fri, 16 October 2009 13:36

so say we all. wrote on Fri, 16 October 2009 13:30

BSG& Firefly.

Firefly ftw

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Re: Fanboy Thread #4 - Space Opera [message #451251 is a reply to message #407000] Thu, 11 August 2011 09:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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two year old thread gets revived
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Re: Fanboy Thread #4 - Space Opera [message #451508 is a reply to message #407000] Sat, 13 August 2011 15:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Fanboy Thread #4 - Space Opera [message #452065 is a reply to message #407033] Sat, 20 August 2011 19:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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NukeIt15 wrote on Fri, 16 October 2009 01:13

Star Wars, in general, is the better-developed universe and has a lot more potential for expansion because most people can usually agree on what the canon consists of. Trek on the other hand has been known to change its lore in every single iteration, and was just 'blessed' with an entire separate continuity.

Wrath of Khan, however, single-handedly owns the hell out of any live action Star Wars production. If it were a poll asking whether WoK or Empire Strikes Back is the better movie, Khan would win hands down. With one hand behind its back, even. Blindfolded.


I'm not sure where you're getting the "better established universe" from. Star Trek's story has been very consistent and developed for many years.

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Re: Fanboy Thread #4 - Space Opera [message #452070 is a reply to message #407000] Sat, 20 August 2011 19:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think he means that the Star Wars universe has many individual stories that take place over thousands and thousands of years. There's literally millenniums of individual story lines for hundreds of individual characters.

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Re: Fanboy Thread #4 - Space Opera [message #452078 is a reply to message #407000] Sat, 20 August 2011 21:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That isn't what he said.

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Re: Fanboy Thread #4 - Space Opera [message #452080 is a reply to message #407000] Sat, 20 August 2011 21:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That's how I would interpret it. It's better established since it's fiction is cemented in due the thousands of years worth of material.

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Re: Fanboy Thread #4 - Space Opera [message #452085 is a reply to message #407000] Sat, 20 August 2011 22:18 Go to previous message
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You're ignoring the rest of his statement. He said that he believes that Star Wars is better able to be expanded upon because "most people can usually agree on what is canon", not because it has some sort of story background.

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