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Re: What do you want out of Scripts 4? [message #381618 is a reply to message #381560] Tue, 21 April 2009 02:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Stewie wrote on Tue, 21 April 2009 01:42

ErroR wrote on Mon, 20 April 2009 07:36

2 and 3.
1 and 4 are already present where i play Razz


Three and four are present where I play so this is my thinking as well... I'm looking for the stuff we don't already have. The problem I have with the anti-cheat is it leaves nothing for the moderators to do. It seems kind of funny to put it that way, but even since the advent of BIATCH, I've found I have very little to do as a moderator except for petty little problems.

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Re: What do you want out of Scripts 4? [message #381628 is a reply to message #381153] Tue, 21 April 2009 03:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The map autodownloader and after its been released an INSTANT change of the server map rotations.

Sometimes i think, how stupid is this community: playing this single dozen maps now for 7 years?

there are so many great maps around, but they arnt added into the rotation of the most important servers, because "not all players have them"....

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Re: What do you want out of Scripts 4? [message #381632 is a reply to message #381628] Tue, 21 April 2009 03:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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rrutk wrote on Tue, 21 April 2009 13:00

The map autodownloader and fater it been released an INSTANT change of the server map rotations.

Sometimes i think, how stupid is this community: playing this single dozen maps now for 7 years?

there are so many great maps around, but they arnt added into the rotation of the most important servers, because "not all players have them"....



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Re: What do you want out of Scripts 4? [message #381637 is a reply to message #381632] Tue, 21 April 2009 04:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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well tbh, my vote was anti cheat however to be more specific, more cheat detection with biatch warning would be better, if you waste time inputting an anti cheat system then someones gunna waste there time making cheats to get around your anti-cheat system, ingame moderators will never be extinct mainly for the fact that although 99% of ppl play fair do the right thing and have fun there's ppl out there who are just plain wankers that don't cheat and need moderators to crack down on, racism and personal abuse top the list for this kind of example, if there was a biatch warning saying someones using aimbot *cheat name removed*or other it would be more useful as a warning than an auto-banner, mods can gather player info and other details so that if serial ip and name were changed the moderator and admin staff for that server would have a proverbial paper trail to add to new offences

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Re: What do you want out of Scripts 4? [message #381640 is a reply to message #381637] Tue, 21 April 2009 04:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Goobers wrote on Tue, 21 April 2009 14:28

well tbh, my vote was anti cheat however to be more specific, more cheat detection with biatch warning would be better, if you waste time inputting an anti cheat system then someones gunna waste there time making cheats to get around your anti-cheat system, ingame moderators will never be extinct mainly for the fact that although 99% of ppl play fair do the right thing and have fun there's ppl out there who are just plain wankers that don't cheat and need moderators to crack down on, racism and personal abuse top the list for this kind of example, if there was a biatch warning saying someones using aimbot *cheat name removed*or other it would be more useful as a warning than an auto-banner, mods can gather player info and other details so that if serial ip and name were changed the moderator and admin staff for that server would have a proverbial paper trail to add to new offences

cheers goobers

yes, but the problem would be, if there's no mod ingame then what? Sad
Re: What do you want out of Scripts 4? [message #381642 is a reply to message #381153] Tue, 21 April 2009 04:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The rotations WILL change but I warn you that, contrary to "popular believe", there's very few decent fanmaps, in my experience. I tested a LOT of fanmaps for our weekly I-CW evenings that we've been having for years now and very often the maps were either bugged, unbalanced, often way too big for a decent game with less than 20 players or simple camp fests.

There's very few fast paced, open maps like the WW maps. If we had the auto downloader today, I doubt I'd find more than 15 new maps actually worth putting in our server's rotation.


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Re: What do you want out of Scripts 4? [message #381644 is a reply to message #381642] Tue, 21 April 2009 04:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Goztow wrote on Tue, 21 April 2009 12:38

If we had the auto downloader today, I doubt I'd find more than 15 new maps actually worth putting in our server's rotation.


thats still a decent amount of new competitive maps.

I don't see why you guys don't like the idea of auto banner, if there is a unflawed system which detects cheats, records serial ip and nicks and bans all in a second(a lot faster than a moderator) then that only means the moderator can spend more time playing the game rather than dealing with the 'hes cheating' etc etc complaints.


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Re: What do you want out of Scripts 4? [message #381645 is a reply to message #381153] Tue, 21 April 2009 04:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I absolutely agree! However, compared to the hundreds of released fanmaps, it's a very low %.

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Re: What do you want out of Scripts 4? [message #381650 is a reply to message #381645] Tue, 21 April 2009 05:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Goztow wrote on Tue, 21 April 2009 14:43

I absolutely agree! However, compared to the hundreds of released fanmaps, it's a very low %.

True, and it's somewhat tricky to find the good ones in there. However, just ten new maps would *really* make public more interesting. That, and when the autodownloader IS out, I'm sure some people will put time & effort into making more maps. Most of course will be sucky, but some might be good. Wink


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Re: What do you want out of Scripts 4? [message #381673 is a reply to message #381650] Tue, 21 April 2009 09:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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At least it would be for possible to properly playtest a map with a decent amount of players.

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Re: What do you want out of Scripts 4? [message #381683 is a reply to message #381153] Tue, 21 April 2009 10:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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tbh people will play any map, its been a long time since I liked under and I still play if it comes on in a server.

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Re: What do you want out of Scripts 4? [message #381709 is a reply to message #381153] Tue, 21 April 2009 12:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think we can all agree cheaters suck, but there are anti-cheat and bugfix solutions already out there with varying degrees of success, while we still have no resource downloader. I think that's what's most desperately needed out of these four.

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Re: What do you want out of Scripts 4? [message #381733 is a reply to message #381642] Tue, 21 April 2009 14:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Goztow wrote on Tue, 21 April 2009 06:38

The rotations WILL change but I warn you that, contrary to "popular believe", there's very few decent fanmaps, in my experience. I tested a LOT of fanmaps for our weekly I-CW evenings that we've been having for years now and very often the maps were either bugged, unbalanced, often way too big for a decent game with less than 20 players or simple camp fests.

There's very few fast paced, open maps like the WW maps. If we had the auto downloader today, I doubt I'd find more than 15 new maps actually worth putting in our server's rotation.

This is true actually. When n00bstories went to open the fan maps server Crimson installed the massive map pack ( the one with over 100+ maps ) and a few members went through every single map and narrowed down the list to about 10 maps that were worthwhile of playing


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Re: What do you want out of Scripts 4? [message #381837 is a reply to message #381733] Tue, 21 April 2009 21:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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andr3w282 wrote on Wed, 22 April 2009 00:00

Goztow wrote on Tue, 21 April 2009 06:38

The rotations WILL change but I warn you that, contrary to "popular believe", there's very few decent fanmaps, in my experience. I tested a LOT of fanmaps for our weekly I-CW evenings that we've been having for years now and very often the maps were either bugged, unbalanced, often way too big for a decent game with less than 20 players or simple camp fests.

There's very few fast paced, open maps like the WW maps. If we had the auto downloader today, I doubt I'd find more than 15 new maps actually worth putting in our server's rotation.

This is true actually. When n00bstories went to open the fan maps server Crimson installed the massive map pack ( the one with over 100+ maps ) and a few members went through every single map and narrowed down the list to about 10 maps that were worthwhile of playing

What would these maps be exactly? Any list somewhere? Smile


Re: What do you want out of Scripts 4? [message #381840 is a reply to message #381153] Tue, 21 April 2009 21:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We ended up stopping the server ( or it crashed and we never rebooted it ..idk i can't remember ) and basically no one was using it .. but I don't have a copy of the list :\

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Re: What do you want out of Scripts 4? [message #381868 is a reply to message #381153] Wed, 22 April 2009 04:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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yeah, i totally agree, under maybe 300 maps around are ~ 1/10 of it worth playing!

but to be honest, this would be a milestone if u compare it with the situation now. omg, it would be so great to see a new map on n00bstories with players in.

yeah, i know, they tried it.

i loved some of the CP2 maps (terrace, mutation_redux, last_stand, tropics) and had a lot of great games with it and a bunch of players in, but this is ~2 years ago.

for instance, here is the list of ACK's maps i found so far. Some of them are very good maps:
C&C_Bunkers.mix 	| Version 2.0
C&C_Basin.mix 		| Version 1.2
C&C_BasinTS.mix 	| Version 2.0
C&C_Beach.mix 		| Version 1.0
C&C_City_Flying_Exp.mix | Version 1.2
C&C_Country_Meadow.mix 	| Version 2.0
C&C_CYTeamDM		| Version 1.0
C&C_DMCenter.mix	| Version 1.0
C&C_DMCenterTS.mix 	| Version 2.0
C&C_DMConYard 		| Version 1.1
C&C_Eglin_AFB.mix	| Version 1.0
C&C_Flight_Deck.mix 	| Version 1.0
C&C_Forest_Trail.mix	| Version 1.0
C&C_Glacier.mix 	| Version 1.1
C&C_GlacierTS.mix 	| Version 2.0
C&C_Golf_Course.mix 	| Version 1.0
C&C_Land.mix		| Version 1.0
C&C_Mars.mix 		| Version 1.0
C&C_MedicalLevel 	| Version 1.1
C&C Metro		| Version 1.0
C&C MetroTS 		| Version 2.1
C&C_Metropolis.mix 	| Version 1.0
C&C_Mines.mix 		| Version 1.3
C&C_MinesTS.mix 	| Version 2.1
C&C_River_Canyon.mix	| Version 1.0
C&C_River_Raid.mix 	| Version 1.0
C&C_River_RaidTS.mix 	| Version 2.0
C&C_The_Woods_Today	| Version 1.0


Someone has a collection of maps of Titan?

It would be epic failure, to set a not approved mega-map-pack on a server or maps not worth playing.

We have to make a propper selection. Now we have the time, why not make tests and votes before TT is released?

All CP2-maps should be used.

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Re: What do you want out of Scripts 4? [message #381877 is a reply to message #381868] Wed, 22 April 2009 06:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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At least some of ACK's maps are indeed good. Titan's as well.

You forgot Glacier Flying from the list or perhaps it's missing on purpose..
Which reminds me of something to ask the TT team: will Glacier Flying be fixed? As in, the dissapearing mines & FPS lag problems?

Is BunkersTS ACK's btw?


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please give me link to these maps :
C&C_Eglin_AFB.mix
C&C_Flight_Deck.mix
C&C_the_woods_tooday.mix (not apb)


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http://renegade.dmehosting.com/Maps/

The Woods Today (one of the best maps): attached.

GlacierFlying is not in the list, because the list is without Original Renegade, CP1 & CP2.

And, its to mention, that some of his maps are originally designed by westwood - he finished them.

So they should be handled like original maps.

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rrutk wrote on Wed, 22 April 2009 09:22

http://renegade.dmehosting.com/Maps/

The Woods Today (one of the best maps): attached.

GlacierFlying is not in the list, because the list is without Original Renegade, CP1 & CP2.

And, its to mention, that some of his maps are originally designed by westwood - he finished them.

So they should be handled like original maps.


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RTsa wrote on Wed, 22 April 2009 06:13

Which reminds me of something to ask the TT team: will Glacier Flying be fixed? As in, the dissapearing mines & FPS lag problems?


I remember a past update on TT's progress saying they have. Unless that was them saying they "will" >.<
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Mines are fixed; I don't know about the FPS.

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StealthEye wrote on Wed, 22 April 2009 18:16

Mines are fixed; I don't know about the FPS.

w00t!

Do they still appear at the weird electric thingy at the middle of the map where they can be disarmed? Hope not..


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Nope, they are fixed.. Razz

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Why and how did they even appear there?

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