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Do You Think Fighting For President Bush Is Worth Your Life? [message #156199] Tue, 24 May 2005 13:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A) Harbor , its clear he harbors terrorist. (No i won't give you proof, no its nto because i don't have an answer i just don't think you deserve my time to look it up and prove something thats right there for all the world to see and something anyone with any sense would confirm.)


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Do You Think Fighting For President Bush Is Worth Your Life? [message #156200] Tue, 24 May 2005 13:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No, we want to see Osama dead, who carried out attacks on the US. We went into Saddam for WMDs, but did we get them? I think not. Afganistan was a cover for going into Iraq, the reasons we went to Iraq were not humanitarian based, the US likes it money.

No. Seriously. No.
Do You Think Fighting For President Bush Is Worth Your Life? [message #156204] Tue, 24 May 2005 13:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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How the fuck do you get money from a war? If I'm not mistaken, wars COST money. If we were greedy, we'd just export to other nations, refuse to import, and keep ourselves locked into an Isolationistic way of life. Obviously, this isn't the case.

Sure, there's always something to gain. We're expanding the free world. Giving more people the ability to have the freedoms that we have. How would you like to disagree with your government, and then be put to death because even one of your own family members snitched on you? I'm sure you would just love that. :rolleyes:

Where else would we go to get Osama? Oh yes, let's hunt down Osama in China! He's obviously not in Afghanistan where we originally thought. :rolleyes:


Do You Think Fighting For President Bush Is Worth Your Life? [message #156205] Tue, 24 May 2005 13:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Like you say Cow, its common sense right.
So anybody with sense know BUSH JR and BUSH SR were out for that oil in iraq. War is a cover up, money is the root to all evil you know? Wink


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Do You Think Fighting For President Bush Is Worth Your Life? [message #156206] Tue, 24 May 2005 13:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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How the fuck do you get money from a war? If I'm not mistaken, wars COST money. If we were greedy, we'd just export to other nations, refuse to import, and keep ourselves locked into an Isolationistic way of life. Obviously, this isn't the case.

Sure, there's always something to gain. We're expanding the free world. Giving more people the ability to have the freedoms that we have. How would you like to disagree with your government, and then be put to death because even one of your own family members snitched on you? I'm sure you would just love that. :rolleyes:

Where else would we go to get Osama? Oh yes, let's hunt down Osama in China! He's obviously not in Afghanistan where we originally thought. :rolleyes:


He's in Canadian Parlament! HELP US!


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Do You Think Fighting For President Bush Is Worth Your Life? [message #156207] Tue, 24 May 2005 13:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You fucking liberals can't afford to think for yourselves, can you? All you have to do is think that it could be for oil, have someone tell you that it is, and you won't budge on that belief even when COMMON SENSE tells you otherwise. That's okay, though because mainstream media supports your ideas.

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Do You Think Fighting For President Bush Is Worth Your Life? [message #156208] Tue, 24 May 2005 14:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lol, nice try. "It doesn't deserve an answer", or would that be better stated "I have no answer to supply"?

Saddam did not carry out or order the attack on the World Trade Center. Yet, you seem to want to use this as a reason for fighting in Iraq...


I think this sums your comment up pretty good

"ReyDeLaGuerra: he's just a liberal"

That would be your an idiot. Ossama Bin Ladan ordered the murder and had those below him plan details and carry it out. I edited it and re-stated what i said. We are after ALL inloved. Those who carried it out, defended those who plotted it those who harbor them and those who support them in they're attack on innocentce.

Its the war on terrorisim, not the war on Ossama. You liberals tend to forget that,


Correct, Osama did. So I fail to see why you stated that Iraq had something to do with 9/11 when, even by your own admission, they didn't? The topic had been started to deal with the war in Iraq, so the only reason to bring in 9/11 as a defence for it would be that you think Saddam had something to do with 9/11.

Interesting how you seem to lable me a "liberal" as some sort of insult. Perhaps you should learn hat liberal means first. Of course, if you want to throw words-as-insults around, you seem to be the one whose mind is broad enough to encompass open ideas of what constitutes participation, with ideals of reform and progress on the terrorist front for the betterment of all. I'd say if anyone qualifies to be called "liberal", it would be you.
Do You Think Fighting For President Bush Is Worth Your Life? [message #156210] Tue, 24 May 2005 14:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So I fail to see why you stated that Iraq had something to do with 9/11 when, even by your own admission, they didn't?




When did i say they had NOTHING to do with 9/11?


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Do You Think Fighting For President Bush Is Worth Your Life? [message #156213] Tue, 24 May 2005 14:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So I fail to see why you stated that Iraq had something to do with 9/11 when, even by your own admission, they didn't?




When did i say they had NOTHING to do with 9/11?


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Ossama Bin Ladan ordered the murder and had those below him plan details and carry it out.
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So I fail to see why you stated that Iraq had something to do with 9/11 when, even by your own admission, they didn't?




When did i say they had NOTHING to do with 9/11?


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Ossama Bin Ladan ordered the murder and had those below him plan details and carry it out.



Im failing to see were in that sentence i said Iraq has nothing to do with it.


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Do You Think Fighting For President Bush Is Worth Your Life? [message #156232] Tue, 24 May 2005 16:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Civil war is inevitable if fucks like Newsweek keep screwing everything up. It's damn hard to try to help a country when every liberal world wide is trying his damndest to get us blown up! You don't want to see that 20 more american soldiers died in a suicide TP-ing attack, stop giving them a reason. They get coverage world wide attacking what all the fucking news channels portay as Satanerica. "The Associated Press has received reports tuesday that President Bush actually flayed several Iraqi babies while he was on vacation there making poor people fight to their deaths for the right to be punched in the face." For gods sake why do you think they hate us?


Please. That Newsweek story has been circulating for a year and a half in the Middle East. Their running of that story in no way caused a riot.

bigjoe

Still refuse to believe that all terrorist activities are coming from outside of Iraq and not inside? I see. I didn't know the Iraqi's enjoyed killing themselves.


The concept of rival clans vying for internal power seems entirely foreign to you. Have you never taken a high school history course?

bigjoe

Is it even possible for you to not discuss complications that are nearly a year old? If any of the RDx is used it will be from terrorists coming from the surrounding areas outside of Iraq, not inside. Being "U.N" regulated" never made the RDx any more safer than it was after we secured Iraq.


Well, actually it was safer, because all the RDx was under IAEA seal and frequently inspected. After the U.N. left Iraq preceding the U.S. invasion, al Qaqaa was not guarded. And the U.S. never came back and guarded it. The entire facility has since been stripped to the ground, and everything inside taken. Now there's so much RDx around Iraq that anyone can make a roadside bomb of devastating force. RDx is give or take the most powerful conventional explosive known to man. And Bush took no steps AT ALL to protect it.

bigjoe

You keep using the same dumbfounded excuses you used well over a year ago. Care to think of something new?


RDx won't go away if we give it time.

cowmisfit

That you idiot, is worth dying for.


I take it you'll be enlisting in the army as soon as you're legally able to?

Doitle

It's an allegory Kinghigh. I am the US, Nodbugger is the Iraqi people, and SFE is the liberal media. How could you miss that?


Actually, it was a bit spastic, if you didn't notice.

Cowmisfit - Saddam is not Osama

cowmisfit

A) Harbor , its clear he harbors terrorist. (No i won't give you proof, no its nto because i don't have an answer i just don't think you deserve my time to look it up and prove something thats right there for all the world to see and something anyone with any sense would confirm.)



Can't run with the big kids if you don't have any proof. [applies for B&C, too, although I won't directly contest the gassing of the Kurds.] [Because that's what UN sanctions are for]

cowmisfit

Its the war on terrorisim, not the war on Ossama.


If it were the "War on terrorism", you could use that justification to attack any Asian country. Why Iraq?

jball

How the fuck do you get money from a war?


By cutting taxes. Duuuuuuuuuuuuh.


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Do You Think Fighting For President Bush Is Worth Your Life? [message #156238] Tue, 24 May 2005 16:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I just hate bush simple and plan.
If you like him then I hate you too.


And there's where you lost me..


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Do You Think Fighting For President Bush Is Worth Your Life? [message #156241] Tue, 24 May 2005 16:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jball

How the fuck do you get money from a war?


By cutting taxes. Duuuuuuuuuuuuh.

Are you really truly this stupid? Cutting taxes has nothing to do with gaining a financial profit from a war.


Do You Think Fighting For President Bush Is Worth Your Life? [message #156248] Tue, 24 May 2005 16:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You didn't really miss my sarcasm, did you?

And if unless I'm mistaken, he [you] was referring to running a profit during a war.


"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)

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Do You Think Fighting For President Bush Is Worth Your Life? [message #156253] Tue, 24 May 2005 17:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So I fail to see why you stated that Iraq had something to do with 9/11 when, even by your own admission, they didn't?




When did i say they had NOTHING to do with 9/11?


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Ossama Bin Ladan ordered the murder and had those below him plan details and carry it out.



Im failing to see were in that sentence i said Iraq has nothing to do with it.


Let me get this straight, saying that it was ALL Osama, means something other than all?

Lets check this math...

All of something leaves nothing, therefore if Osama (who ordered it) and group did ALL the planning and ALL the act of carrying it out, that leaves nothing left for Sadam to participate in.
Do You Think Fighting For President Bush Is Worth Your Life? [message #156254] Tue, 24 May 2005 17:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just to comment on the idea of war time costs. The country goes into deficit, however the businesses of war thrive. One factor why the depression didn't last much beyond the 30s.
Do You Think Fighting For President Bush Is Worth Your Life? [message #156273] Tue, 24 May 2005 19:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Like you say Cow, its common sense right.
So anybody with sense know BUSH JR and BUSH SR were out for that oil in iraq. War is a cover up, money is the root to all evil you know?


r u braen ded Kinghigh? U have not a intelligence that Kerry wuz only ruhning so he kuld yuse an x-ecutiv ordar to blo up teh Huntz Katsup Factori? U muzt be rally dum! Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

Seriously though, Cow, J-ball, everybody, focus on what Warranto and SFE are saying. Kinghigh is being kinda trolly and at least Warranto and SFE are putting some thought into this one.

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If it were the "War on terrorism", you could use that justification to attack any Asian country. Why Iraq?


Because these people had more direct contact with those who committed the act. What was it again? $25,000 if you kill yourself for Allah? Fact is: Iraq embraced terrorists in its own country instead of at least making it look as if they were taking some sort of action to prevent them. You keep making us remind you of why we went to Iraq when its painfully aparent:

1.) Find Weapons of Mass Destruction - STILL PENDING
- There is alot of Desert out there. Also In the time it took the United States to mobilize they could have been moved to Syria.

2.)They Supported Terrorists
- If you don't see the facts between the former Iraqi government and their terrorist ties, then you are too stubborn to see the truth as of now.

3.) Liberate the Iraqi people
- Some say they don't want to be liberated. Man, they must really like being murdered, raped, and thrown into mass graves then.


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Do You Think Fighting For President Bush Is Worth Your Life? [message #156290] Tue, 24 May 2005 21:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dodo or Doitle Im not stupid or dumb.


Hey Doitle I got a question for you. WTF Kerry got to do with me or the topic? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


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I believe you were looking for this sort of evidence.

I'm the bawss.
Do You Think Fighting For President Bush Is Worth Your Life? [message #156299] Tue, 24 May 2005 22:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just to refute one point of that website,

Al Qaeda-Hussein Link Is Dismissed
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The concept of rival clans vying for internal power seems entirely foreign to you. Have you never taken a high school history course?

If any "rival clans" try to fight for the control of Iraq, they will come from the surrounding countries around Iraq. That's not really Civil War. Everything has been pretty damn nice within Iraq and it's citizens. The terrorist from the outside are the ones mucking it up for everyone else.

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Now there's so much RDx around Iraq that anyone can make a roadside bomb of devastating force.

How would you know it's in Iraq? It could be inside Iran, Cuba, or Russia for all you know.

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And Bush took no steps AT ALL to protect it.

Sorta like how Clinton sold U.S. Military intelligence to China to get campaign funds?

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RDx won't go away if we give it time.

Another excuse. If you're so worried about some crappy explosives, care to tell how you would like to take care of it?

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Please. That Newsweek story has been circulating for a year and a half in the Middle East. Their running of that story in no way caused a riot.

Bullshit, You know that story caused all that violence. You're just trying to defend your liberal spin machine. Who cares if it's been running for a year? It still caused all kinds of problems. Newsweek published that story with no conformation whatsoever. A stupid move that cost innocent lives. I cannot believe you're trying to defend that peice of crap.


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Just to refute one point of that website,

Al Qaeda-Hussein Link Is Dismissed


So, you can only refute one point? And neglect that the war is on TERROR, not Al-Qaeda?


I'm the bawss.
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You forgot that terrorism is defined as this:

ter·ror·ism P Pronunciation Key (tr-rzm)
n.
Al Qaeda. No other sources of terrorism exist in the modern world.
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Hey Doitle I got a question for you. WTF Kerry got to do with me or the topic?



He has a lot to do with the topic. If Bush weren't in office Kerry would be. How can you keep saying, "HAY AYE EM NOT DUM!", when you don't get anything. You don't understand the sarcasm, you don't understand comparisons, and you don't understand symbolism. Your not leaving me much to work with besides going "Nuh uh!".


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