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America Makes "Gay Bomb" [message #132452] Sun, 16 January 2005 11:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That is not refutation. That is dismissal. There is a big difference.


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America Makes "Gay Bomb" [message #132458] Sun, 16 January 2005 12:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Javaxcx

While this story sounds pretty ridiculous, but none of you have refuted it.

Just reading the article refutes it. It's so ridiculous that anyone with the least amount of common sense realize that, and that's to say a lot.


Interesting... because thats exactly what people thought prior to 9/11. The idea of someone being able to attack America was so absured, it must not be true.
America Makes "Gay Bomb" [message #132464] Sun, 16 January 2005 12:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No, see, that's just ignorance. Nobody's safe from attacks/crime even if you live in the safest cities in the world. We especially know this now because of 9/11.

I've been trying to look at that from a miliary point of view, and it's just way beyond anything logical. Plus, it wouldn't work. I wouldn't give a damn how hot a chick was if she's the enemy that we're fighting. Especially if she's putting me in danger of my own life. I'm gonna shoot the bitch.

Plus, if the gas made my enemy irrestistable sexually, I'd know about it. Even if I'd actually feel attracted to the enemy, I'd realize that I'm not supposed to think that way, and that it was a ploy by the enemy, and that would piss me off more.


America Makes "Gay Bomb" [message #132465] Sun, 16 January 2005 12:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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But that isn't refutation. That is still dismissal. You're just assuming that because it sounds ridiculous (and it does), that it is impossible for it to be true-- but you haven't proved that.

Chemicals are powerful things that can alter moods quite quickly to whatever means.



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America Makes "Gay Bomb" [message #132467] Sun, 16 January 2005 12:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In order for the bomb to work, you'd have to alter one's line of thinking beyond their sexual orientation into tricking them that they're truly homosexual.If you don't then they're going to realize that it's a trick by the enemy. If I am all of a sudden attracted to my enemy, I'm going to know that it's a ploy by them because just a few minutes/hours before, I was fantasizing about women. They'd have to somehow trick your brain into thinking that this is your normal. If you do this, then why make them homosexual? Why not just erase their memory temorarily? They'd pretty much have to do that already and then on top of that add a chemical agent that turns them into homsexuals.

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No, see, that's just ignorance. Nobody's safe from attacks/crime even if you live in the safest cities in the world. We especially know this now because of 9/11.

I've been trying to look at that from a miliary point of view, and it's just way beyond anything logical. Plus, it wouldn't work. I wouldn't give a damn how hot a chick was if she's the enemy that we're fighting. Especially if she's putting me in danger of my own life. I'm gonna shoot the bitch.

Plus, if the gas made my enemy irrestistable sexually, I'd know about it. Even if I'd actually feel attracted to the enemy, I'd realize that I'm not supposed to think that way, and that it was a ploy by the enemy, and that would piss me off more.


It's not ignorance. Think of the point I'm trying to bring accross. Just because it's absured, does not mean it it false.Heck, most major technological developments were done through people doing things that were considered absured.

Regardles, "In development" means just that. They are doing the research to make the weapons. It doesn't necessarily mean htat hte weapons are in production, nor does it say that they will ever come into existance.

As for that "beyond the logical" arguement. Go out and learn something about pharamones. Given a strong enough agent, the chemical will be able to affect you. If not long enough for you to act on it, long enough to stall your actions while you clear your head. It's simple biochemistry, and already used to some extent in the provate market.
America Makes "Gay Bomb" [message #132478] Sun, 16 January 2005 14:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So America is ridiculous because they pay some people to think outside the box and think of new and innovative ways to battle their enemies? I don't know why "America" becomes "ridiculous" because a couple paid brains up at the Pentagon talked about a "homo bomb" idea. Love makes people do crazy things, even kill... so why not explore harnessing that emotion and manipulate it for our own purposes? But then again, the Democrats would have probably found a way to equate it to "severe mental anguish" aka torture. :rolleyes:

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America Makes "Gay Bomb" [message #132483] Sun, 16 January 2005 14:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Its probably just an idea right now. I doubt the US will follor through with anything like this.

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America Makes "Gay Bomb" [message #132504] Sun, 16 January 2005 16:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ask yourself: what's the most important element of attack? That's right: surprise...

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America Makes "Gay Bomb" [message #132505] Sun, 16 January 2005 16:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No, see, that's just ignorance. Nobody's safe from attacks/crime even if you live in the safest cities in the world. We especially know this now because of 9/11.

I've been trying to look at that from a miliary point of view, and it's just way beyond anything logical. Plus, it wouldn't work. I wouldn't give a damn how hot a chick was if she's the enemy that we're fighting. Especially if she's putting me in danger of my own life. I'm gonna shoot the bitch.

Plus, if the gas made my enemy irrestistable sexually, I'd know about it. Even if I'd actually feel attracted to the enemy, I'd realize that I'm not supposed to think that way, and that it was a ploy by the enemy, and that would piss me off more.


No, you see, you're reading it wrong:

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The US military investigated building a "gay bomb", which would make enemy soldiers "sexually irresistible" to each other, government papers say.


Not as in:
-OMG! I CAN'T SHOOT THAT G.I HE'S TOO DAMN SEXY!

But as in:

-Bobby, Nick and Johnny were working on setting up that Russian spy-thing to spy on the U.S troops.
-Bomb goes boom.
-Bobby starts checking Nick out.
-Nick says, "Bobby, what're you doing man we gotta set thi- hey did anybody ever tell you how good you look in that uniform?"
-They never finish setting up the spy-thing because of being busy jackhammering each other's bungholes.
America Makes "Gay Bomb" [message #132513] Sun, 16 January 2005 16:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah, I read it wrong. I was thinking about that for a minute too. I was like, "wouldn't that make them attacted to each other?" I can see it working that way then. I still think it's stupid, though. We'd still have to kill them or somehow train our men to not be affected by gay sex while they're tying them up and hauling them to a prisoner camp.

America Makes "Gay Bomb" [message #132527] Sun, 16 January 2005 17:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't care what anyone says, the BBC does not like America, everytime I've ever watched it they do nothing but put in smartass , cheapshot comments against us. This is just another smear campain from them.


Care to point out a few examples of how they don't like America? You have got to stop viewing your country in this "holier than thou" aura where you can never fuck up or do any wrong or stupid.

While this story sounds pretty ridiculous, but none of you have refuted it.


If i recorded the crap that is BBC news, i would gladly upload it, but i don't. Besides, even if i presented it to you, ITS POINTLESS, you would just say "thats not bashing america" then your other left wing freinds would come and say "OMG LIK YA HE IS RIGHT COW U SUX !1111 O AND THATS SPELLED WRONG !1111"

I don't think my nation can do NOTHING wrong, i know we've done plenty of wrong things in the past. Such as the abuse at abu grabe (how ever you spell it)


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America Makes "Gay Bomb" [message #132530] Sun, 16 January 2005 17:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If i recorded the crap that is BBC news, i would gladly upload it, but i don't.

When you say "recorded", do you mean "had ever watched"?


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America Makes "Gay Bomb" [message #132532] Sun, 16 January 2005 17:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've been trying to look at that from a miliary point of view, and it's just way beyond anything logical. Plus, it wouldn't work. I wouldn't give a damn how hot a chick was if she's the enemy that we're fighting. Especially if she's putting me in danger of my own life. I'm gonna shoot the bitch.


You're entirely missing the point of the bombs containing chemicals. Funny substances, chemicals. Sometimes, they change the way you look and think at times. Times like war. Which is what this project was based on.

Thinking caps on, please.


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"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)

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America Makes "Gay Bomb" [message #132533] Sun, 16 January 2005 17:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The Daily Show

9/11 + x = Shut the fuck up

x = Whatever we say


It may have been for comedy purposes, but it's not far from the truth. 9/11 became a turning point for the US Administration to start "The War on Terror". In my personal view, the ignorance is on those who thought it was "to liberate the people or Iraq". Wars are made for political GAIN, not to spend millions of dollars to go and help out third-world countries. Otherwise we would be making efforts in places like Africa and helping there, but that's not really being done much.


No. Seriously. No.
America Makes "Gay Bomb" [message #132543] Sun, 16 January 2005 18:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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j_ball430

I've been trying to look at that from a miliary point of view, and it's just way beyond anything logical. Plus, it wouldn't work. I wouldn't give a damn how hot a chick was if she's the enemy that we're fighting. Especially if she's putting me in danger of my own life. I'm gonna shoot the bitch.


You're entirely missing the point of the bombs containing chemicals. Funny substances, chemicals. Sometimes, they change the way you look and think at times. Times like war. Which is what this project was based on.

Thinking caps on, please.

Read my next paragraph.


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Good.

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)

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America Makes "Gay Bomb" [message #132554] Sun, 16 January 2005 19:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If i recorded the crap that is BBC news, i would gladly upload it, but i don't.

When you say "recorded", do you mean "had ever watched"?


When you say anything on these forums do you "think"


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cowmisfit

Besides, even if i presented it to you, ITS POINTLESS, you would just say "thats not bashing america" then your other left wing freinds would come and say "OMG LIK YA HE IS RIGHT COW U SUX !1111 O AND THATS SPELLED WRONG !1111"


So let me get this straight: BBC news doesn't like America because Cowmisfit said so. Cowmisfit doesn't prove it, not because he can't, but because he doesn't want to. I don't think I need to continue with THAT one.

But aside from that, while you're a moron most of the time who speaks incoherently and out of blind and closed-minded patriotism, that doesn't mean you'll be wrong ALL of the time. Show some evidence to back up your claims, otherwise you're just falling into your otherwise moronic habits.



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America Makes "Gay Bomb" [message #132558] Sun, 16 January 2005 19:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When you say anything on these forums do you "think"


Oh, the irony...can't take it...

EDIT: I don't get it, why does everyone get all offended when someone claims that America is making a "gay bomb?" I don't find it offensive, heck, I have no feelings about it whatsoever. It's a great idea IMHO.
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The Daily Show

9/11 + x = Shut the fuck up

x = Whatever we say


It may have been for comedy purposes, but it's not far from the truth. 9/11 became a turning point for the US Administration to start "The War on Terror". In my personal view, the ignorance is on those who thought it was "to liberate the people or Iraq". Wars are made for political GAIN, not to spend millions of dollars to go and help out third-world countries. Otherwise we would be making efforts in places like Africa and helping there, but that's not really being done much.


What does 9/11/2001 have to do with an idea explored in 1994?? Besides, who was president in 1994? Clinton. Why don't we blame him for the idea?

Note: I'm not "blaming Clinton" for the idea. Just remember that if this were thought of in 2004 instead, then some of your would be screaming "omg Bush is dumb look at this idea".


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It's offensive because it is being presented as fact, when it has not been proven beyond rumor.

Remember, kiddies: the burden of proof should always be on the accuser. There is no evidence other than word-of-mouth that such weapons programs are underway; this is something I would expect to see from a TABLOID, not a so-called "reputable" source.


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America Makes "Gay Bomb" [message #132570] Sun, 16 January 2005 21:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Besides, even if i presented it to you, ITS POINTLESS, you would just say "thats not bashing america" then your other left wing freinds would come and say "OMG LIK YA HE IS RIGHT COW U SUX !1111 O AND THATS SPELLED WRONG !1111"


So let me get this straight: BBC news doesn't like America because Cowmisfit said so. Cowmisfit doesn't prove it, not because he can't, but because he doesn't want to. I don't think I need to continue with THAT one.

But aside from that, while you're a moron most of the time who speaks incoherently and out of blind and closed-minded patriotism, that doesn't mean you'll be wrong ALL of the time. Show some evidence to back up your claims, otherwise you're just falling into your otherwise moronic habits.


I already told you moron, i don't record BBC news to show you , just go watch it yourself turn it off what ever algizera (how ever you spell it) that you canadians watch and turn it to BBC for a while. I guarentee you at least 2 - 3 times they will make a cheap shot on America.

O and when did i say that they don't like america because bbc said so? J_ball agree's with me as well, and im sure some others around here would too. Its not some "radical opinon" that some of you seem to think i have of the world, its a fact. Don't be blind.


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I already told you moron, i don't record BBC news to show you,


If BBC is as hateful toward America as you make it out to be, then finding articles, or television recordings online shouldn't be that hard a task. So, since you still seem to be avoiding proving your point, I'm just going to continue calling you a biased "democrat-like" twit for jumping to baseless conclusions about something you obviously know nothing about.

Maybe J_Ball will be the smarter man and find YOUR evidence for you.

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O and when did i say that they don't like america because bbc said so?


What the hell? Are you illiterate?

Javaxcx

So let me get this straight: BBC news doesn't like America because Cowmisfit said so/


How does that translate into "they don't like america because bbc said so"?

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Its not some "radical opinon" that some of you seem to think i have of the world, its a fact. Don't be blind.


Facts are proven by, you know, evidence, You still have yet to present any. It is therefore not a fact. It is your OPINION.



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J_ball agree's with me as well, and im sure some others around here would too.

Zach, if I've never seen any BBC broadcast, I can't agree with you. You do tend to misunderstand some things, so I can see you taking it as an insult, or possibly Java and the rest of the world could just be ignorant and stuck in their ways so that they just overlook the "cheapshots". Either way, I can't make my decision on anything I havn't came into contact with.


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