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| Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130314] |
Sun, 02 January 2005 15:53   |
Chronojam
Messages: 688
Registered: March 2003
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Very well done. It's rather interesting to see this. Question, do all sniper weapons show the blue? I'm interested in those blue streaks; do PIC and Raveshaw beams last longer too? Also, what does that laser rifle appear as? Just the last-used weapon?
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| Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130374] |
Sun, 02 January 2005 20:25 |
Chronojam
Messages: 688
Registered: March 2003
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In their hand as they hold it? o_O From what I've witnessed it usually appears as a pistol.
The cheats I encounter most are one-shot pistol kills (it's not a pistol I guess, but a laser rifle that looks like it?) and autorifles that'll kill you in only about 4 shots.
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| Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130389] |
Sun, 02 January 2005 21:50 |
Mikkilla
Messages: 6
Registered: September 2004
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This is why I only play in RG servers.
It really sucks to be almost in the enemies base as an SBH nuker only to be killed instantly by someone on the other side of the base while still fully cloaked.
Half-mode RG works nice, as you can just !forcerg them off. (doesn't bring back that $1400 you just lost though)
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| Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130624] |
Mon, 03 January 2005 21:36 |
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NodServnt
Messages: 20
Registered: January 2005
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For #1 Mr. Nod3145 what you did made you NO better then ANY of the cheaters' out there.
#2 You have cheated for a while, because of the way you was doing it was almost pro like.
#3 I hope that they post your Screen Name on here just for you cheating ON AN OPEN SERVER SO WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE!
 Ok, Now that I have put that in there... I would think that Mr. Aircraft Killer as well as the others' can agree with what I said.
C&C
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No. You're wrong.
1. The only cheat other than this one I tested was Final Renegade many months ago in a designated server. I tested this one to see how cheating has evolved since then into more cunning techniques.
2. I have not cheated for a while, I was playing almost "pro-like" because I have been playing Renegade since it was released. It's not hard to deduce what manuevers a stealthy cheater would employ (as demonstrated) onced you've figured out what types of cheats they had available to them in the first place. In case you haven't figured it out already, there's not much skill involved in cheating, so I don't get how you can come up with "pro-like" cheaters to begin with.
3. It's somewhat necessary to demonstrate cheating on an open server to get the point across. Oh yeah, it only lasted about 3 and a half minutes, so don't panic. Like I said in the original post, I did test out the cheat's abilities in my own private server prior to filming the video... but filming the video in my own private server would have much less of an impact on viewers of the video.
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You would be very supprised at how much skills' some would have to put into it to NOT geting caught... However you would be an easy one to catch.. Duh! I catch cheaters' day in, and day out... Like I tell people, I only like cheaters' for one reason, because I like the "hunting/catching". To me it is a hobbie, and a thrill at the same time.  I been doing it for several games' for a while now.
C&C
Ken
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| Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130630] |
Mon, 03 January 2005 22:33 |
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U927
Messages: 709
Registered: February 2003
Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
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For #1 Mr. Nod3145 what you did made you NO better then ANY of the cheaters' out there.
#2 You have cheated for a while, because of the way you was doing it was almost pro like.
#3 I hope that they post your Screen Name on here just for you cheating ON AN OPEN SERVER SO WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE!
Ok, Now that I have put that in there... I would think that Mr. Aircraft Killer as well as the others' can agree with what I said.
C&C
Ken
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1) He used the cheats to demonstrate how a cheater can still cheat in the game yet be covert at the same time. If he isn't better than the cheaters, why the hell would he share the info on how covert cheaters cheat?
2) So, just because he's careful in using his cheats, it makes him a long time cheater? News flash, dickweed, he isn't a n00b who's yelling "OMGF LUK @ MEE KIL TEH PEEPULZ IN OEN SHTO!!!111 LOLOLOLWTFOMGBBQ". He's a seasoned player who knows how to be discreet, and if you can't figure that out, I weep for the future.
3) He stated that he changed his screenname, so that part is useless.
As for the last comment:
- Aircraftkiller isn't the leader of these forums, nor does he carry the most influence, so attempting to incite a response from him is pointless. Also, he doesn't care one bit about Renegade anymore; he's moved on to modding Half Life 2.
- The "others" consists of a few retards like you who can't see the purpose of this guy's intentions, which is to show people how cheaters can be discreet in their methods.
Honestly, turn on your brain before telling your fingers to hunt and peck the keyboard.
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then, is not an act but a habit. - Aristotle
8-Bit Theatre. The power of evil compels you!
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| Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130637] |
Mon, 03 January 2005 23:21 |
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GBull, You are completely offbase on this one. While this kid may be good at determining cheaters, that doesn't necessarily mean that he knows how long they've been playing, or for the reasons as to why their cheating, I believe this guy cheated for the reason to educate others. There is no other reason as to why he posted the movie. It wasn't like he was showing off, "OMG LOOK AT MUH CHEETZ I R L337!!!!oneoen!!!11one"
Also, Aircraftkiller already defended nod3145's actions in making this movie. It'd help if you friend could read the previous posts once in a while.
Libertarian Party | The King's Throne | The Soda Shop
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| Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130649] |
Tue, 04 January 2005 00:04 |
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splnwezel
Messages: 46
Registered: October 2004
Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
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I think he did the video with the sole purpose of showing uneducated mods what the cheat was capable of. I wouldn't expect him to be a cheater outside of this experiment, he is obviously smart enough to realize that a moderator in this forum could match his IP.
So please give him the respect he deserves. I know a lot of us can say, oh well I never EVEN touched the cheats, because I want to remain a pure Renegade player, but it takes a lot of courage to test the cheats out and post your results so that people can learn from them. I know a lot of moderators out there can tell a cheat from skill, but a lot of moderators are absolute noob and need help to determine that. EVEN if Renguard is running. I myself hadn't even seen a Big-head screenshot before last month, so it doesn't hurt to educate the general audience a bit.
Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into Orca engines...
[GDE]splnwezel
http://www.gdeclan.net
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| Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130679] |
Tue, 04 January 2005 06:34 |
Weirdo
Messages: 369
Registered: March 2003
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I haven't seen the movie yet, so I don't know what he does. But as long as this guy didn't ruin a complete game, just to prove his point I'm not mad. We can all cheat if we want to. So Showing off that you can cheat, is useless. Pointing out for the moderators with a bit less knowledge about how cheats work, is usefull.
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In many servers that "force RG" stuff is used as an excuse to remove a player that killed the person in question.
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Before Renguard, people used possible cheating as an exuse to Kick/Ban a player that killed the person in queston. I think this is at least an improvement, altough it won't stop power abuse I doubt it could really make it worse.
Also Aircraftkiller, how can you actually know what a lot of servers do. If you don't actually play the game?
Size doesn't matter.
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| Video demonstrating cheating methods [message #130692] |
Tue, 04 January 2005 08:21 |
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Crimson
Messages: 7428
Registered: February 2003
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Personally I don't agree with it... Firing one shot at a tank, killing one infantry while cheating... you have changed the outcome of the game. Think "Butterfly Effect". This video could have been shot against bots and been effective. I do know who the "smurf" really is, but since most of you don't seem to be unsupportive of it, I won't reveal.
I'm the bawss.
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