| GSA cheaters [message #52942] |
Mon, 27 October 2003 15:34  |
conkil navi
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Registered: October 2003
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I know i'm new to this but from what i have been reading in the forums is that u Rengaurd r making a anti cheat program now i know this may be silly or far fetched but have u concidered that the people that make these cheats even with pkg modifications or rengaurd. They will work a way to get the cheats to work. People say its a minority thats cheating on GSA its a majority of people that have been playing since it came out. How long will it take to get a working rengaurd on renegade. concidering that the renegade population has gone down from 700 user to only over 500 at some time even lower. I estimate that in about 6 months to 1 year renegade population will be at around 50 -200 players would it be worth while then to bring out rengaurd the answer is NO it will not. So why not get a beta version done give it to people to use and let them report the bug back to you. At the end of the day Renegade is a community we all love and play it so give us a chance of helping getting rid of these so called cheats from the game u have nothing to loose but a lot to gain a lot of people are questioning if rengaurd will ever come out. Now its your chance to prove the community wrong.
conkil navi 100% cheat free conkil 100% cheat free
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| GSA cheaters [message #52960] |
Mon, 27 October 2003 19:16  |
fl00d3d
Messages: 1107
Registered: August 2003
Location: Iowa, USA
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| GSA cheaters [message #52995] |
Tue, 28 October 2003 03:38 |
Neodarrh
Messages: 44
Registered: August 2003
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no offense to the crew, but you look at all the games out there, dedicated hackers will have rengaurd bipassed within a month at most. Good example diablo, the hackers there can break the new patch in no time flat to bring out new cheats, and these patchs are made by the people that have access to the code and actually are paid to work on this stuff, no offense but if you all are so busy, do you really thing rengaurd has that much of a chance? Hell if anything this will bring more hackers over because they love to break codes and progs like this not to do it so they can cheat, but just to do it so they said they could and laugh at how quickly they did it.
I personally have no faith in that rengaurd is going to bring life back to renegade, its community is crippled and will never recover like it used to be.
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| GSA cheaters [message #53014] |
Tue, 28 October 2003 09:43 |
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Crimson
Messages: 7428
Registered: February 2003
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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The cheats in Renegade are far more elementary than cheats in those games, and therefore easier to stop.
I'm the bawss.
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| GSA cheaters [message #53100] |
Tue, 28 October 2003 19:46 |
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IRON FART
Messages: 1989
Registered: September 2003
Location: LOS ANGELES
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Well, the way I see it is that cheaters on Renegade are just a bunch of stupid dum-dums (aka. "goons")
They don't know what shit is if it slapped them in their face.
What my point is (yes i have a point) Is that in order for cheaters to cheat, it needs to be served in front of them in a silver platter. They don't know how to get past the anticheat already out. Even if i posted it right here, they couldn't do it. As long as there is something simple to cram down their throats, the cheaters now are fked.
And this isn't an immensely popular game like Quake, Unreal, BF1942 or Diable II! There are no hardecore crackerd and nerds busting their asses to cheat. There is no uber-man to release cheats.
Although I do think that If there is no anticheat now, it may not be worth it.
Also there is the fact that people that are caught cheating are banned for life. Those who do not cheat now will probably never cheat. And so there are no new cheaters arising.
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<[Digital]> get man_fucking_a_car.mpg
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| GSA cheaters [message #53214] |
Wed, 29 October 2003 19:03 |
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Cpo64
Messages: 1246
Registered: February 2003
Location: Powell River, B.C. Canada
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The cheaters that are out there are realtivly stupid, they don't even know how the cheats are made, the fact that almost all of them are useing Final Renegade is proof of this.
Anyone who is 'smart' enough to crack RenGuard will not relase it, because once they do, RenGuard will up date, makeing all there hard work useless.
Now there is another type of person who will try to crack RenGuard, these are the people who wish to see it fail. These are the dangerous people...
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| GSA cheaters [message #53231] |
Wed, 29 October 2003 20:48 |
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IRON FART
Messages: 1989
Registered: September 2003
Location: LOS ANGELES
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These people are also the rarities, that will have to battle any patch. And if ll else fails, there is nothing a good ol' ban can't fix.
In fact Bans are working remarkably well now.
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<[Digital]> get man_fucking_a_car.mpg
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| Bans do work [message #53354] |
Thu, 30 October 2003 23:55 |
MrSpeed
Messages: 100
Registered: August 2003
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I want to agree with you Iron Fart that bans are working out good but I would hate to think I banned someone who really plays good.
"Please, don't look for cheats, they take away from the game, and hinders your ability in learning to play better."
join the Renegade Gamespy community server!!
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| Re: Bans do work [message #53391] |
Fri, 31 October 2003 11:11 |
zeph
Messages: 43
Registered: April 2003
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| MrSpeed |
I want to agree with you Iron Fart that bans are working out good but I would hate to think I banned someone who really plays good.
"Please, don't look for cheats, they take away from the game, and hinders your ability in learning to play better."
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Rofl speed....you really would hate that wouldn't you? Is that why I got kicked from BA Toasterover for using "bighead"? Kicked twice actually, and banned eventually.
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| Sorry if you got banned [message #53437] |
Fri, 31 October 2003 18:43 |
MrSpeed
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Registered: August 2003
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Like I said I would hate to ban someone who is just a good player and if your a great player and got banned Im sorry but its hard to tell em apart ;(
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| GSA cheaters [message #53440] |
Fri, 31 October 2003 19:51 |
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IRON FART
Messages: 1989
Registered: September 2003
Location: LOS ANGELES
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Actually, zeph............I know EXACTLY why you got banned.
That rare day when like 5 [gse]'s joined the toaster oven. Zetti, Peter N., some others, and you.
You didn't put your name as "zephyr" or anything similar.
Zetti, and another gse (Peter N i think), and Speed and I were on NOD on C&C_under,
Other BAs (just kingdale) and the other gse's (you) were on GDI.
Peter N. asked who the hell you were in team chat cos he didn't regognize you, Zetti didn't recognize you. They asked Speed to ban thinking you were a faker. Then you kept joining and leaving, joining and leaving with those gay-ass names to make fun of BA.
THAT is why you got banned. Not cos we thought you cheated. But because we were asked to kick you. And because you talk so much sh1t about us, and those gay names you tried to join with, I don't think we need to unban. Not that you regularly join however. So it wouldn't matter would it?
No need to apologize, MrSpeed.
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<[Digital]> get man_fucking_a_car.mpg
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| GSA cheaters [message #53523] |
Sat, 01 November 2003 10:55 |
zeph
Messages: 43
Registered: April 2003
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lol NOOB-FART. You were the one thinking that running into nod refinery with alot of people on Field was a cheat because you took advantage of the Obelisks bad fire rate....so I dont think you fit here.
First time I was kicked because I owned the gay [BA]Hitman too many times. And they knew who I was. MrSpeed even asked me to use my real name, but what rule says you have to do that?
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| GSA cheaters [message #53525] |
Sat, 01 November 2003 11:21 |
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IRON FART
Messages: 1989
Registered: September 2003
Location: LOS ANGELES
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lol N00B-zeph
When did I think that running t ref was a cheat?
I said it was CHEAP, not a cheat.
And the time that I described, It didn't matter to us if you used your name or not. the others thought u were a faker.
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<[Digital]> get man_fucking_a_car.mpg
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| GSA cheaters [message #53533] |
Sat, 01 November 2003 11:56 |
zeph
Messages: 43
Registered: April 2003
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lol, you and whole BA can go die....or consider playing clanwars, which is the purpose of clans
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| Re: Bans do work [message #53600] |
Sat, 01 November 2003 19:54 |
MrSpeed
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Registered: August 2003
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Ohh that guy I remember him LOL he came in on bout 3 times after I kicked him and finally I had to ban his arse. You think I like trying to play a game and have to deal with retard like you? You are the type of person that makes this game I love so much suck. Now if you think kicking you 3 times (after your gse teammate told me to, and even he thought you were a schmuck) is not worth a ban then I dont know what to say to ya.
Thanks Iron for remembering this guy.
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I want to agree with you Iron Fart that bans are working out good but I would hate to think I banned someone who really plays good.
"Please, don't look for cheats, they take away from the game, and hinders your ability in learning to play better."
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Rofl speed....you really would hate that wouldn't you? Is that why I got kicked from BA Toasterover for using "bighead"? Kicked twice actually, and banned eventually.
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| GSA cheaters [message #53601] |
Sat, 01 November 2003 20:02 |
MrSpeed
Messages: 100
Registered: August 2003
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You mean the point of a clan is not to sell hats? Holy shit.
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Hey you can get your BA hats at http://www.ba4life.com/ba/shopzone.html
You just wish you could buy one of your [gse] hats but you do not have one to offer.
Also remember [gse] is the biggest clan known for cheats on GSA so keep an eye out. Now I'm not saying [gse] cheats just that you are blamed the most and trust me its not cause your so darn good either.
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| GSA cheaters [message #53608] |
Sat, 01 November 2003 22:09 |
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IRON FART
Messages: 1989
Registered: September 2003
Location: LOS ANGELES
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It doesn't matter if we did or not sell hats, mrp.
What do you even hope to achieve by reiterating this fact?
You TAs and gse-ers seem to have an unearthly fascination and fixation with it. Whats your point?
We have something you don't. Whats the point of repeating it over and over?
Does it change the way we play? Does it boost morale?
No its just a novelty that we have, and others don't. Live with it or stay quiet.
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<[Digital]> get man_fucking_a_car.mpg
<[Digital]> ah fuck wrong window
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| GSA cheaters [message #53989] |
Wed, 05 November 2003 16:15 |
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IRON FART
Messages: 1989
Registered: September 2003
Location: LOS ANGELES
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reason #
4. Cheaters hide it and deny it
5. There is now way to 100 proveit besides your way which is uncommon.
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<[Digital]> get man_fucking_a_car.mpg
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| GSA cheaters [message #54049] |
Wed, 05 November 2003 20:47 |
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htmlgod
Messages: 360
Registered: July 2003
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Anyone who is 'smart' enough to crack RenGuard will not relase it, because once they do, RenGuard will up date, makeing all there hard work useless.
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Crimson's right about how the people on renegade don't know anything about hacking or programming.... They're just kids venting their anger through someone else's creation. Even the "hack" itself is incredibly simple, I think most of you know how it works (a controller file replacement made with freeware provided by westwood, combined with utilization of an oversight in the anti-cheat measures made by westwood), and its not really a "hack" or anything of that variety.
The simplicity of the cheat (and of the cheaters) is to a degree such that once Renguard (or any detection program) is released, all the cheaters will be screwed, because few of them understand how the cheats actually work, and all are too amateurish to successfully find a way around any kind of detection program.
It is for this reason that I think Renguard should have been released long ago. For experienced programmers like Blazer, DJ Laptop, Dante, and the other guys on the team, this should be an easy job. I think they're either drastically overestimating the capabilities of the cheaters, or not actually getting any work done on the project.
The problem with community forums is that there's so much flaming.... Most of the big names like ACK must spend tons of time defending against the flames that others bring against them (not to espouse the undeniably self-righteous attitudes of some of these guys), that they get considerably less work done than they might otherwise.
Check out http://newhope.conquergaming.com to see the progress of the STARWARS mod for Renegade.
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