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Re: What if people could live 500 years? [message #179913 is a reply to message #179715] Sun, 20 November 2005 13:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Are you talking of planets in our own solar system?

I find this fascinating.
I think Einstein was maybe the smartest human in the history of ever.


Re: What if people could live 500 years? [message #179943 is a reply to message #179715] Sun, 20 November 2005 20:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Instead of Scrooge saying people dying is just decreasing the surplus population, he'd probably be out killing people himself.

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Re: What if people could live 500 years? [message #179965 is a reply to message #179899] Mon, 21 November 2005 02:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mad Ivan wrote on Sun, 20 November 2005 12:55

i`d vote against continuing this research...Imagine if Al Capone terrorised the US for 500 years. Our lives would be a lot more different now.
What about a 300 years old Osama Bin Laden attacking the US for the n-th time over and over again...


Why only look at the bad side, why not think about what if einstein had lived 500 years, or the pope, etc?
Re: What if people could live 500 years? [message #180031 is a reply to message #179965] Mon, 21 November 2005 15:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Blazer wrote on Mon, 21 November 2005 04:16


Why only look at the bad side, why not think about what if einstein had lived 500 years, or the pope, etc?



Because the bad side goes with the good side.Everybody has their bad sides and the same goes for the world.Need i remind you of WW1, WW2 and something that had an impact that echoes even now in my own country - the Europian invasion of the Turkish a few hundred years ago.
As long as there is corruption, villainy and greed for power - that kind of research will only make things worse.Seeing how the above things will never end, unless the entire world falls under dictatorship, that kind of research would never be needed.

On a side note: dictatorship also has it`s dark sides so it isnt an answer to world piece either Wink


Re: What if people could live 500 years? [message #180032 is a reply to message #179715] Mon, 21 November 2005 15:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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you would go by how things are needed? we don't need antibiotics, but you're pretty grateful for that, hey? It could lead to teh cure for cancer or god knows what else and you're going to turn it down because there might be a slight chance some bad person would use it to live longer? People who are wanted can't exactly escape their whole life, or 6 times that. So how about thinking of the many peoples lives you could save (even if directly it doesn't solve the cure for cancer, what about scientists who could?)

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Re: What if people could live 500 years? [message #180077 is a reply to message #179715] Tue, 22 November 2005 03:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Evil is not in things or ideas, it is in people. Knowledge is only dangerous in the hands of dangerous people. If the human race is ever to advance, we must attain as much knowledge as possible. What we do with that knowledge, is what defines who we are. Just because something "bad" can be done with something, doesn't mean that is what we will do with it. For instance any chemist knows how to poison the water supply of a major city and kill hundreds of thousands of people, but are they doing that, or are they working on finding cures for cancer etc?
Re: What if people could live 500 years? [message #180095 is a reply to message #179715] Tue, 22 November 2005 10:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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WWII did not end because everyone was to old to fight. It ended because Germany had a lack of natural resources. If Germany had the ability to produce ships at the same pace as the US I believe we would be speaking German. Maybe oversimplifying that a little bit.

Re: What if people could live 500 years? [message #180109 is a reply to message #180077] Tue, 22 November 2005 13:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Blazer wrote on Tue, 22 November 2005 05:32

If the human race is ever to advance, we must attain as much knowledge as possible. What we do with that knowledge, is what defines who we are.


http://science.slashdot.org/science/05/11/22/192252.shtml?ti d=146&tid=98&tid=14

Unfortunately, there are craploads of people who won't agree :/
Cloning and other gene/dna-based research would be extremely valuable, but it's easier said than done. Of course there's a limit in what should be done in the name of science, but simply mentioning the words "gene" "mouse experiment" and "mutation" pretty much gets you sued, prosecuted and burned in a bonefire with <insert religious symbols> poked through your heart nowadays.

"From the Register article"

Growing numbers of Americans support the idea of teaching creationism in schools, and in a recent CBS News poll, 51 per cent of respondents said they rejected the idea of evolution


I don't know how trustworthy The Register is, so make your own conclusions.

Edit: Oh, and with that being said, it's time to find my asbest suit again...


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Re: What if people could live 500 years? [message #180128 is a reply to message #179715] Tue, 22 November 2005 15:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm not saying that cloning should be done (although I don't see a problem with medical cloning like cloning organs for transplant), just that we should know/learn how everything works...that means doing the research. If they want to ban something that is possible with the research, fine, but don't ban the advancement of knowledge.
Re: What if people could live 500 years? [message #180130 is a reply to message #179715] Tue, 22 November 2005 15:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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For instance any chemist knows how to poison the water supply of a major city and kill hundreds of thousands of people, but are they doing that, or are they working on finding cures for cancer etc?


But a chemist is making weapons of mass destruction.Take a look at Iraq for an example.
Nukes?Sure, the energy is efficient, but it makes a hell of a "bang".

As for the cancer cure.
Sure it will be great to discover one.I never said i am against that.I smoke and i think that it`d be quite a discovery Smile


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Re: What if people could live 500 years? [message #180333 is a reply to message #179715] Thu, 24 November 2005 20:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't think u would have to worry about being old and misserable for 100 years. Very few people would live to 500. Most would die from car crashes or have a much higher chance of being raped and killed before natural death.
Re: What if people could live 500 years? [message #180346 is a reply to message #180333] Fri, 25 November 2005 02:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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cypher909 wrote on Thu, 24 November 2005 22:53

I don't think u would have to worry about being old and misserable for 100 years. Very few people would live to 500. Most would die from car crashes or have a much higher chance of being raped and killed before natural death.


You missed being insane for 500 years...


Re: What if people could live 500 years? [message #180351 is a reply to message #179715] Fri, 25 November 2005 03:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lol, What are the odds on being raped and killed? I just saw myself in the mirror, and I think I could live to be 2000 and never have to worry about that.

Re: What if people could live 500 years? [message #180414 is a reply to message #179905] Fri, 25 November 2005 17:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You would be 400% more likly to kill urself.

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Re: What if people could live 500 years? [message #181200 is a reply to message #179808] Fri, 02 December 2005 20:04 Go to previous message
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Blazer wrote on Sat, 19 November 2005 18:04

Also in 500 years ack would be in his wheelchair, talking about how Renegade is dead Wink


Prolly, but I would say God forbid his children would be taking up his life work to tell us that renegade is dead.


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