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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #405948 is a reply to message #405549] |
Wed, 07 October 2009 09:04   |
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RC's answer doesn't surprise me. he said i should be banned from jelly for "giving my opinion about the a00 names". funny, cos that certainly doesn't seem to be the view when someone gives their opinion about the pointsfix; it deserves automatic respect, doesn't it? and of course, when a jelly moderator (clearshot) told lie after lie after lie after lie to try to make me look bad and gets caught red-handed, there's not a word of condemnation about it.
so no, i didn't expect RCmorr to get anything right.
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I never said you should be banned because of your opinion on the a00 names! I voted yes on the poll "over at Jelly forums" based on the fact you're annoying and won't ever stop with your mindless mad scientist rants you call simple opinions. But spoony you enjoy lying and twisting words so I would expect you to say something like that.
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #405951 is a reply to message #405948] |
Wed, 07 October 2009 09:10 |
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you said: the only reason you're saying this now is because we took the pointsfix off jelly.
that's obviously a lie. you can go see my response to the announcement about it being taken off, i say: oh well, your choice, good luck.
and you're one of the few people who knows why i've just come back to renegade, why i've been away (i didn't want to tell anybody)... and yet you say: the reason you're saying this NOW is because we took the pointsfix off.
| rcmorr09 wrote on Wed, 07 October 2009 11:04 |
I never said you should be banned because of your opinion on the a00 names! I voted yes on the poll "over at Jelly forums" based on the fact you're annoying and won't ever stop with your mindless mad scientist rants you call simple opinions. But spoony you enjoy lying and twisting words so I would expect you to say something like that.
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raven wrote on Tue, 06 October 2009 21:11
That's a bit harsh, lol.. no reason to ban the guy for voicing his opinion
RCmorr09 wrote on Tue, 06 October 2009 21:22 (quoting raven's post)
I disagree.
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #405954 is a reply to message #405950] |
Wed, 07 October 2009 09:11 |
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| CarrierII wrote on Wed, 07 October 2009 12:08 |
I think anything personal (you know each others names, that's enough of an indicator) should be kept out of the public domain, but the discussion over the nicknames WILL continue.
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There's no way I am taking that shit that I lied about his brother, I have never mentioned anything about that outside of PM's between us.
He may interpret the fact I questioned why it's taken him 4 years to bring this up as me questioning his bothers illness, but that's his severly warped mind if that's what he thinks. I in no way would ever question shit like that.
The whole idea is pretty sad......
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #405957 is a reply to message #405951] |
Wed, 07 October 2009 09:15 |
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| Spoony wrote on Wed, 07 October 2009 12:10 |
you said: the only reason you're saying this now is because we took the pointsfix off jelly.
that's obviously a lie. you can go see my response to the announcement about it being taken off, i say: oh well, your choice, good luck.
and you're one of the few people who knows why i've just come back to renegade, why i've been away (i didn't want to tell anybody)... and yet you say: the reason you're saying this NOW is because we took the pointsfix off.
| rcmorr09 wrote on Wed, 07 October 2009 11:04 |
I never said you should be banned because of your opinion on the a00 names! I voted yes on the poll "over at Jelly forums" based on the fact you're annoying and won't ever stop with your mindless mad scientist rants you call simple opinions. But spoony you enjoy lying and twisting words so I would expect you to say something like that.
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raven wrote on Tue, 06 October 2009 21:11
That's a bit harsh, lol.. no reason to ban the guy for voicing his opinion
RCmorr09 wrote on Tue, 06 October 2009 21:22 (quoting raven's post)
I disagree.
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So you think I'm wrong about your reasons and jump to the fact I'm lying about your brother, or insinuating you're lying?
That's a massive jump, and one of a pretty fucked up person. It never even entered my head. I can't believe you'd even think that shit, let alone acuse me of it.
Grow the fuck up, I'd never stoop that low, ever, especially over a fuckin game. You go on about apologies, I'd like one right now....
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #405959 is a reply to message #405954] |
Wed, 07 October 2009 09:16 |
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| Jellybe4n wrote on Wed, 07 October 2009 12:11 |
| CarrierII wrote on Wed, 07 October 2009 12:08 |
I think anything personal (you know each others names, that's enough of an indicator) should be kept out of the public domain, but the discussion over the nicknames WILL continue.
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There's no way I am taking that shit that I lied about his brother, I have never mentioned anything about that outside of PM's between us.
He may interpret the fact I questioned why it's taken him 4 years to bring this up as me questioning his bothers illness, but that's his severly warped mind if that's what he thinks. I in no way would ever question shit like that.
The whole idea is pretty sad......
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I asked him also if this a00 name deal was so important why wait till now? He also brought up his brothers illness. But what about last month when he was here? He's only concerned now because it appears TT is coming closer to completion.
And spoony I as joking when I quoted raven, but I did forget that I quoted him and said I disagree so you were right.
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #405970 is a reply to message #405957] |
Wed, 07 October 2009 09:27 |
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| Jellybe4n wrote on Wed, 07 October 2009 11:15 |
So you think I'm wrong about your reasons and jump to the fact I'm lying about your brother, or insinuating you're lying?
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It's really simple. You throw up all these ridiculous conspiracy theories about why I'm really saying what I'm saying. "oh, spoony's REALLY saying this because..."
two problems with this.
1. you say this in the hope it means you don't have to respond to the actual criticism
2. you basically wipe away my history of honesty with one stroke
so you come up with a reason of "why spoony's saying this now", a completely bullshit one that is easily discredited. trouble is you know better than anyone why i'm saying this NOW, not last year, for example.
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I asked him also if this a00 name deal was so important why wait till now? He also brought up his brothers illness. But what about last month when he was here?
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last month, eh?
| Spoony wrote on Wed, 09 September 2009 18:33 |
i also think that at some point there will be a server with the 'pure' strategic settings, perhaps TT will host it as the 'official' server for ladder play, or perhaps i'll do it independently (think SpoonySrv). basically so there is always somewhere for people to play for ladder, disregarding any current community bias and whatnot, and to prevent one community having a stranglehold on the ladder. (i'd need an a00 nick for that though. i'm sure i don't need to point out the futility of starting a new server without one.)
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you certainly saw that post because you replied to the thread a great many times, to your discredit
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its not so much what you have done, its the way you do it. you argue to the death, provoke people into reacting, call them liars, drag people into the argument by randomly mentioning them.
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wow simpee... how DARE you criticise the way *I* argue?
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you lied to everyone over and over and over again about what happened at clanwars with the pointsfix.
you lied to everyone over and over and over again about this mesa 2v2 nonsense.
you lied to everyone over and over and over again about the pointpushing business - whiskey, clearshot etc.
and you lied about clearshot's huge list of bullshit false accusations against me. you had a choice: 1. tell the truth, admit spoony was innocent on all charges, point out that every single word clearshot said was an obvious lie... or 2. lie to the community to help clear get away with it. i predicted you would take the second option, and was absolutely right: it's exactly what you did do.
i like the pointsfix, so you ABSOLUTELY CANNOT tell the truth in any situation where telling the truth will make me look good. i guess me being the only person who could ever be bothered hosting a clan ladder for scum like you hasn't even earned me THAT small amount of respect, eh?
and every time you lie to the community to try to get people on your side, you get caught. i actually try to do you a favour by saying "simpee, you are making your case WEAKER when you do this", you just don't get it, you just try again five minutes later. it's amazing you can't see how much damage you're doing to your own credibility
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #405971 is a reply to message #405969] |
Wed, 07 October 2009 09:28 |
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| Hex wrote on Wed, 07 October 2009 11:25 |
| Spoony wrote on Wed, 07 October 2009 16:58 |
DON'T dodge this question, answer it
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Why not, you seem to like doing it.
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that's ironic, because i've asked you two or three times to explain exactly what you mean when you said "this won't matter anymore with the new scripts", and you've outright refused to answer.
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #405973 is a reply to message #405970] |
Wed, 07 October 2009 09:30 |
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| Spoony wrote on Wed, 07 October 2009 12:27 |
| Jellybe4n wrote on Wed, 07 October 2009 11:15 |
So you think I'm wrong about your reasons and jump to the fact I'm lying about your brother, or insinuating you're lying?
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It's really simple. You throw up all these ridiculous conspiracy theories about why I'm really saying what I'm saying. "oh, spoony's REALLY saying this because..."
two problems with this.
1. you say this in the hope it means you don't have to respond to the actual criticism
2. you basically wipe away my history of honesty with one stroke
so you come up with a reason of "why spoony's saying this now", a completely bullshit one that is easily discredited. trouble is you know better than anyone why i'm saying this NOW, not last year, for example.
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I asked him also if this a00 name deal was so important why wait till now? He also brought up his brothers illness. But what about last month when he was here?
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last month, eh?
| Spoony wrote on Wed, 09 September 2009 18:33 |
i also think that at some point there will be a server with the 'pure' strategic settings, perhaps TT will host it as the 'official' server for ladder play, or perhaps i'll do it independently (think SpoonySrv). basically so there is always somewhere for people to play for ladder, disregarding any current community bias and whatnot, and to prevent one community having a stranglehold on the ladder. (i'd need an a00 nick for that though. i'm sure i don't need to point out the futility of starting a new server without one.)
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you certainly saw that post because you replied to the thread a great many times, to your discredit
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its not so much what you have done, its the way you do it. you argue to the death, provoke people into reacting, call them liars, drag people into the argument by randomly mentioning them.
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wow simpee... how DARE you criticise the way *I* argue?
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you lied to everyone over and over and over again about what happened at clanwars with the pointsfix.
you lied to everyone over and over and over again about this mesa 2v2 nonsense.
you lied to everyone over and over and over again about the pointpushing business - whiskey, clearshot etc.
and you lied about clearshot's huge list of bullshit false accusations against me. you had a choice: 1. tell the truth, admit spoony was innocent on all charges, point out that every single word clearshot said was an obvious lie... or 2. lie to the community to help clear get away with it. i predicted you would take the second option, and was absolutely right: it's exactly what you did do.
i like the pointsfix, so you ABSOLUTELY CANNOT tell the truth in any situation where telling the truth will make me look good. i guess me being the only person who could ever be bothered hosting a clan ladder for scum like you hasn't even earned me THAT small amount of respect, eh?
and every time you lie to the community to try to get people on your side, you get caught. i actually try to do you a favour by saying "simpee, you are making your case WEAKER when you do this", you just don't get it, you just try again five minutes later. it's amazing you can't see how much damage you're doing to your own credibility
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Quit with BS and quote trees, and tell me where I said you're lying about your brother (not your perception of how you got there from what I said), or drop it and apologise.
If you fail to do either, I'm done discussing anything with you..
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #405974 is a reply to message #405973] |
Wed, 07 October 2009 09:36 |
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| Jellybe4n wrote on Wed, 07 October 2009 11:30 |
Quit with BS and quote trees, and tell me where I said you're lying about your brother (not your perception of how you got there from what I said), or drop it and apologise.
If you fail to do either, I'm done discussing anything with you..
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straw-man. i said: you're lying about the reason i'm saying this NOW. (and of course, everybody believes you).
the real reason why i'm saying this NOW, and not before (not sure why this is distinction you felt you need to make) is something you know about.
so what's more likely?
"spoony's saying this NOW because we took the pointsfix off the jelly servers"
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"spoony's saying this NOW because he's been away from renegade for a year or so, and i happen to know why"
you thought it was the first one, and your reason was completely made up. perhaps you remember fl00d3d going ape shit and me defending you? why on earth would i turn INTO fl00d3d just because you took the pointsfix off your server when -a- i said at the time that i'm ok with that, and -b- i've said over and over and over again on several forums and countless threads that i don't CARE if a server chooses not to use the pointsfix?
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #405976 is a reply to message #405975] |
Wed, 07 October 2009 09:41 |
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is that your final answer?
you're not going to budge an inch on your undeserved monopoly because i actually answered the question and caught you in a lie to try to evade the criticism of your monopoly?
if this is gonna be your last word on the subject, you can, i hope, do better than that.
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #405977 is a reply to message #405971] |
Wed, 07 October 2009 09:42 |
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| Spoony wrote on Wed, 07 October 2009 12:28 |
| Hex wrote on Wed, 07 October 2009 11:25 |
| Spoony wrote on Wed, 07 October 2009 16:58 |
DON'T dodge this question, answer it
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Why not, you seem to like doing it.
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that's ironic, because i've asked you two or three times to explain exactly what you mean when you said "this won't matter anymore with the new scripts", and you've outright refused to answer.
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| Spoony wrote on Wed, 07 October 2009 11:36 |
| Jellybe4n wrote on Wed, 07 October 2009 11:30 |
Quit with BS and quote trees, and tell me where I said you're lying about your brother (not your perception of how you got there from what I said), or drop it and apologise.
If you fail to do either, I'm done discussing anything with you..
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straw-man. i said: you're lying about the reason i'm saying this NOW. (and of course, everybody believes you).
the real reason why i'm saying this NOW, and not before (not sure why this is distinction you felt you need to make) is something you know about.
so what's more likely?
"spoony's saying this NOW because we took the pointsfix off the jelly servers"
or
"spoony's saying this NOW because he's been away from renegade for a year or so, and i happen to know why"
you thought it was the first one, and your reason was completely made up. perhaps you remember fl00d3d going ape shit and me defending you? why on earth would i turn INTO fl00d3d just because you took the pointsfix off your server when -a- i said at the time that i'm ok with that, and -b- i've said over and over and over again on several forums and countless threads that i don't CARE if a server chooses not to use the pointsfix?
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how did Jellys question get onto point fix again...?
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #405978 is a reply to message #405977] |
Wed, 07 October 2009 09:44 |
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because that's what he said. he said: the only reason spoony's saying this now is because we took the pointsfix off jelly.
there are quite a few things wrong with that and he certainly knows better, but he said it anyway knowing people would swallow it.
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #405979 is a reply to message #405887] |
Wed, 07 October 2009 09:47 |
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Metaphorically speaking, if the servers were given up by Jelly, who in TT would be in charge of them?
I don't expect Jelly to give them up and nor would i, if i was in his position. I'm just curious as to who would control it.
That aside, this whole debate is pointless anyway, as the TT patch makes the whole point moot like Ethenal said.
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #405981 is a reply to message #405979] |
Wed, 07 October 2009 09:51 |
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Anyone with server owner access might wanna check this thread.
http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&th=23013&start=0
yeah, clearly the pointsfix is DEFINITELY why i'm talking about this, eh? funny, cos the pointsfix didn't even exist at the time.
also from that thread, this is rather telling
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It'd cause major flaming? Well, quite possibly it would, but let's not forget we have major flaming now. Look at Jelly - he's hands down the single most honest, trustworthy person I've ever come across, either in Renegade or in real life, and he gets all kinds of crap spouted at him, most of which is garbage anyway.
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see, jelly, if anyone treats you as despicably as your community treat me, and have done for months long before this thread started, i'm on your side.
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #405985 is a reply to message #405549] |
Wed, 07 October 2009 10:05 |
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why the fuck would i even bother replying to ur last post when all uve done is called me a liar, and all you are going to say in response is liar liar liar. this is exactly what i am talking about when i say ur style is homo.
besides, i cant reply because as soon as i say something this douchebag moderator deletes my post whilst leaving ur post with half of my post quoted inside it.
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| Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #406013 is a reply to message #405549] |
Wed, 07 October 2009 13:18 |
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so we have a real old game (in internet-games-time) and we lose more and more players...
do we really need new communities? havent we enough empty/unused servers, do we really need more?
and spoony:
you know that the pointmod did empty our server why you try to hide this fact?
and why do you try in the jelly-forum to get yourself banned?
for all others who dont know what i talk about:
a jelly community member tried a poll with the target to get spoony banned from there. and now spoony say something like:" ok, several players want see me banned there. jelly said he listen to this comunity, so he should ban me"
whats that shit? why you do that? the jelly-community has now a little problem. if the admins dont ban you, you can say: see jelly lied as he said that he listen to his community.
if they ban you you can say: see, i told you all that the jelly-community is unfair to me, they just banned me from theyr forum.
do you dont think that your actings in the jelly forums goes to far?
and you still didnt affirm that you know that the pointmod did empty our servers though you know this fact for a long time now.
and thats the next point. lets imagine that somebody with the pointmod included could have the first server on the list, and it dies coz the pointmod. it would proof only that it dont need a server in the a00 listings, or that it will get filled with many players, coz they only would play 1-2 maps, and then they would join another server, without pointmod. like it happened in the past, as j1 had the pointmod included.
greetz telly ^^
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