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| Re: erikboxem [message #272785 is a reply to message #272082] |
Thu, 12 July 2007 09:24   |
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Guys stay to the topic please.
I still don't know how you dg people thinks thats its ok to cheat. Even if its just 5 seconds and you leave ITS STILL CHEATING. Why? Because you have a cheat on during the game. It doesn't matter how it's used, it's still cheating.
So please, don't even bother to post replies that says "BUT HE DIDN'T USE IT TO WIN THE GAME". No, don't post those kind of replies, it'll just make you stupid and make us laugh.
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| Re: erikboxem [message #272789 is a reply to message #272733] |
Thu, 12 July 2007 09:32 |
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| One Winged Angel wrote on Thu, 12 July 2007 13:46 |
Dammit, the stupidity of some people here is unbearable.
Why should he be banned if he has not done anything to you personally and he wasn't doing any intentional harm to other players? I agree that cheats are bad, but without a spectator mode or something (like MP-Gaming's server) what was there to use to root out the cheat? IRC logs are good but con-crete proof is more substantial in an argument to back up the log.
I believe erik acted in a perfectly acceptable way since he has the authority to do so. Any of you saying "well does that mean we can cheat to find cheaters" are wrong, since you don't have the right to do so on their server. Since erik is an official on the server, I would see that it is his right to use what methods he can to root out cheaters. Although, he should think a bit more next time before acting so rashly.
Give him a slap on the wrist and send him on his way. Banning is too extreme for this case.
It is his server is it not? Or am I mistaken here. I find it perfectly acceptable if it is on his server. Otherwise I take back my previous comment.
Logs are too long, so I didn't read. I'm just vouching an opinion based on what I know.
Needs Saberhawk's anticheat..... It blocks 90% of renegade nastys. Pity it is clientside though :\
Well, if it's his server, let him do what he fucking wants with it.
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OK, read this slowly and carefully.
1. It didn't happen in his public server. It was an organised community match. If the leader of the opposite team wasn't informed beforehand about the fact the leader of each team is supposedly "allowed" to use cheats - and he clearly wasn't - he DOESN'T have the authority to use it.
2. This is the important part:
HE LIED TO YOU AND HIS COMMUNITY ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED
HE SAID HE LEFT THE GAME TO TURN ON THE CHEAT FOR ITS SPECTATOR QUALITIES - HE WAS LYING TO YOU, LOGS HAVE PROVEN THIS. HE WAS PROBABLY LYING ABOUT THE "CHEATER" ON THE OTHER TEAM TOO, SINCE NOT A SHRED OF EVIDENCE HAS BEEN POSTED TO SUPPORT IT OTHER THAN THE WORD OF SOMEONE WHO HAS PROVEN HE WILL LIE TO HIS OWN COMMUNITY TO MANIPULATE THEM INTO SUPPORTING HIM AFTER HE WAS CAUGHT CHEATING
Don't post again until you've read and understood the reality of that post ^^
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If he did leave the game briefly, then he may be telling the truth.
If he didn't, then he's not only a cheater but he's also lied to his own community so they'll risk their own reputations to stick up for him, which is very nearly (but not quite) as pathetic as actually cheating.
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| Re: erikboxem [message #272806 is a reply to message #272804] |
Thu, 12 July 2007 10:18 |
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| Commandosky wrote on Thu, 12 July 2007 12:14 |
everyone understands now what all of our guy's are saying
every evening(in my timedistrict) is the server of DG full, so it doesn't say anything that a server owner has cheat during a fw
the normal players aren't interrested in the story about a server owner who is cheating
it's bad what he has done, but just leave it,
do what you feelings is saying
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You don't care that he cheated?
You don't care that he lied to everyone in your community so you would look stupid by defending someone who was obviously guilty?
Is it not more reasonable to suggest that you guys have tried to cover it up at DG forums? As soon as the truth comes out that Erik was lying to you right from the start, it's all "it's over people make mistakes move on!", right?
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| Re: erikboxem [message #272812 is a reply to message #272811] |
Thu, 12 July 2007 10:25 |
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| Commandosky wrote on Thu, 12 July 2007 11:23 |
yes, i do care that he has cheated and he regret that
that's enough for me, but not for you i see
just move on
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but any cheater can say he is sorry and that he regrets cheating...
all he really regrets is being caught cheating
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| Re: erikboxem [message #272815 is a reply to message #272811] |
Thu, 12 July 2007 10:28 |
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| Commandosky wrote on Thu, 12 July 2007 12:23 |
yes, i do care that he has cheated and he regret that
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Rofl no he doesn't...
he lied to you again and again so he'd get away with it, not caring that people like you would look stupid by defending him BECAUSE HE LIED TO YOU
| Commandosky wrote on Thu, 12 July 2007 12:23 |
that's enough for me, but not for you i see
we don't have spoken alot about the problem on the forums
just move on
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you're right it's not enough, you can't just say "let's move on" LESS THAN A DAY AFTER YOU GOT CAUGHT CHEATING AND LYING TO YOUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY TO COVER IT UP.
I'm reminded of the fact most of you guys were going absolutely berserk in the community match against Clanwars.cc, when you wrongly thought one of us was cheating. It's different when it's your leader, of course.
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| Re: erikboxem [message #272816 is a reply to message #272811] |
Thu, 12 July 2007 10:31 |
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| Commandosky wrote on Thu, 12 July 2007 18:23 |
yes, i do care that he has cheated and he regret that
that's enough for me, but not for you i see
we don't have spoken alot about the problem on the forums
just move on
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Blind faith FTW. 
This is a signature. Reading this is wasting your time.
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| Re: erikboxem [message #272818 is a reply to message #272814] |
Thu, 12 July 2007 10:34 |
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| Commandosky wrote on Thu, 12 July 2007 13:28 |
everyone has told his/her point in this problem
it's now the decision of the rest of you what to do with it
your choice
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That's a bullshit cop-out.
You just don't want to lose your stance in a community. All of the reasonable people here have seen your point, but have argued against it because it makes no sense to support a LIAR. He LIED to all of us.
You say you believe that he's regretting his decision, okay. How about now that he lied about quitting to activate the cheat? If he lied about that, couldn't he have lied about regretting his decision? You can't tell if people are sincere over the internet. It just means that you're a sap.
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| Re: erikboxem [message #272823 is a reply to message #272082] |
Thu, 12 July 2007 11:51 |
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well it seems clear that those who decided to stay loyal to him are not going to even listen to this. i mean its already been proven.. that he cheated, had the cheat on from the getgo. lied about it and now wants to sweep it under the rug, by urging the members of his community not to visit renforums... what more can be done? nothing!
so this topic might aswell be locked since it has served its purpose. and the only people that are posting in it are either the renforum members that are mad that this cheater is not being treated as any other low life cheating scum... or the people following this cheating server owner that do not question him or doubt in him.
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| Re: erikboxem [message #272827 is a reply to message #272082] |
Thu, 12 July 2007 12:21 |
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The phrase "Too long, didn't read" comes to mind.
Spoony, he did not lie to me personally, what makes you think he did? Big red text is unnecessary kthx.
Anyways, I'm done. This thread is lost. I have nothing more to add or argue about.
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| Re: erikboxem [message #272840 is a reply to message #272827] |
Thu, 12 July 2007 14:24 |
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| One Winged Angel wrote on Thu, 12 July 2007 14:21 |
Spoony, he did not lie to me personally, what makes you think he did?
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the fact you swallowed his bullshit story like a mouthful of semen and you misguidedly defend him, that's what.
| One Winged Angel wrote on Thu, 12 July 2007 14:21 |
Big red text is unnecessary kthx.
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It's rare I use it, it's reserved for occasions when someone displays colossal stupidity by refusing to see something blindingly obvious to any adult, most children and, in fact, some domestic animals.
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| Re: erikboxem [message #272857 is a reply to message #272751] |
Thu, 12 July 2007 16:22 |
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| One Winged Angel wrote on Thu, 12 July 2007 14:36 |
It is his server is it not? Or am I mistaken here. I find it perfectly acceptable if it is on his server. Otherwise I take back my previous comment.
Logs are too long, so I didn't read. I'm just vouching an opinion based on what I know.
Needs Saberhawk's anticheat..... It blocks 90% of renegade nastys. Pity it is clientside though :\
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Sure it was his server. I bet I speak for most ppl in here in saying that we don't actually give a damn about what happens to his server. He owns it. We can't ban him there. But he bypassed RenGuard, therefore earning a ban from the RG network...
Got it? Ok, shut the hell up about that.
The questioning now seems to lean towards the dumbasses on his "side". Personally, I don't care if you side with him and stay in that server, I don't want ppl of your reasoning infecting the few remaining decent servers.
Basically, it seems like most ppl here will think you are a fucktard if you stay, reasonable if you leave, and Crimson even seems to be helping by offering mods to some...
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