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Re: weed [message #276219 is a reply to message #276205] Mon, 30 July 2007 12:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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AmunRa wrote on Mon, 30 July 2007 13:31

Romaner wrote on Tue, 17 July 2007 13:52

smoking weed and doing cocaine are completely seperate things. smoking weed doesnt kill you, might make you a little dumber but hey there is a price for everything. but when you do harder drugs you are literraly fucking yourself over. on this i agree with you gbull. but putting the two in one sentence isnt right since one is like having beer for example. and the other is drinking rubbing alcohol. what im trying to say is weed and coke/crack/ectasy and all that other chemical shit is not even close to eachother. and me saying weed isnt that bad by no means is me supporting the other shit.

cocaine erodes the lining of your brain.
its quite marvelous really.

phew, and lets not forget how much dxm ive done in the past month.
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Just in case you weren't joking about the cocaine eroding lining of the brain. It does not Very Happy.


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Re: weed [message #276275 is a reply to message #272284] Mon, 30 July 2007 22:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: weed [message #276317 is a reply to message #276183] Tue, 31 July 2007 07:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hogosphere in Web2.0 wrote on Mon, 30 July 2007 07:19

Crimson wrote on Fri, 27 July 2007 08:56

http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/07/27/marijuana.psychosis.ap/index.html


These studies haven't actually proven anything other than people with mental illness use weed. For all you know these people could have been self-medicating after they contracted the illness. And a proper control group wasn't used. So these studies are less then reliable.

Not to mention at least two of the people managing the studies were working for big pharmaceutical companies with interests in medicines for psychosis.

And most importantly which no one seems to have picked up on. Correlation DOES NOT EQUAL causation. Therefore these studies haven't proven anything assuming everything was peachy from the start.


Maybe you are too stoned to have picked up on it, but this is in the article itself:

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Scientists cannot rule out that pre-existing conditions could have led to both marijuana use and later psychoses, he added.


Though it's not a huge argument in favor of weed smokers to say "Yeah, well, maybe we smoke weed because we are mentally ill, instead of the weed making us that way!"

Sarcasm


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Re: weed [message #276318 is a reply to message #272284] Tue, 31 July 2007 08:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Every single person who smokes pot is mentally ill.
Re: weed [message #276330 is a reply to message #272284] Tue, 31 July 2007 11:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Everybody should stop smoking pot and move on to salvia divinorum and nepeta. I hear hawaiian baby woodrose seeds are good, too. Always some Chill Herbal Smoking Blends, too.

Re: weed [message #276333 is a reply to message #272284] Tue, 31 July 2007 11:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've smoked salvia a few times. Seriously dude... fuck. Way too intense to smoke more than like once a year. Scared the shit out of me the last time I did it and I've vowed never to smoke it again. And I've done my share of other psychedelic drugs but nothing comes close to the intensity of salvia.
Re: weed [message #276334 is a reply to message #276333] Tue, 31 July 2007 11:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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mrpirate wrote on Tue, 31 July 2007 14:30

I've smoked salvia a few times. Seriously dude... fuck. Way too intense to smoke more than like once a year. Scared the shit out of me the last time I did it and I've vowed never to smoke it again. And I've done my share of other psychedelic drugs but nothing comes close to the intensity of salvia.

Awesome. I just bought some 20x. Smile


Re: weed [message #276335 is a reply to message #272284] Tue, 31 July 2007 11:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Haha... didn't know you were interested in this kind of stuff.

Have you smoked salvia before?
Re: weed [message #276336 is a reply to message #276335] Tue, 31 July 2007 11:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, with xptek talking a lot about it last year, my interest was peaked in LSD, pot, and salvia. Unfortunately, the gf at the time hated the idea of me smoking. My current, however, does it herself, so again my interest has been peaked. I was randomly searching info on salvia and somehow found a store about 3 miles from my house, so needless to say I ran and got some.

I haven't smoked any yet, but I have a couple of people willing to share the experience with me. Smile

Edit: What concentration did you smoke that made you vow not to smoke it again?


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Re: weed [message #276337 is a reply to message #272284] Tue, 31 July 2007 11:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Salvia can be fun, but be warned that the first time you smoke it you're probably going to be scared shitless. After that it isn't so bad because you know what to expect. Just don't smoke when you're already drunk or intoxicated some other way (this is how I managed to have such a bad experience). Try doing LSD if you can find it--fascinating stuff.

EDIT: The first couple times I tried it I was smoking 20x. The time I had such a terrible fright was actually 5x... but I was very drunk and stoned and I took a pretty big hit.

If you're a non-smoker it might be hard for you to smoke since you're supposed to hold in the hit for 30ish seconds. Holding it in is a trip because as soon as you exhale you can feel reality starting to fall apart...

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Re: weed [message #276338 is a reply to message #272284] Tue, 31 July 2007 11:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah, I wanted to try some LSD for the state of mind that I read Albert Hoffman had when he tried some. That and your body doesn't build an addiction to it.

Edit: I smoke an occasional cigar, but I don't inhale. If I use a water pipe to inhale, it might be a little easier.


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Re: weed [message #276603 is a reply to message #272284] Wed, 01 August 2007 16:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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How did this topic turn into a conversation on smoking potent stuff and how to smoke it?

Re: weed [message #276606 is a reply to message #276603] Wed, 01 August 2007 16:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I never tried smoking, never will. I don't care how addicting it is. I just dont think any type of smoking should be legalized. It kills the smoker and the croud around him/her. Unlike a bullet through the head, this kills slowly... and painfully. It really doesn't matter of what type of smoking is more or less severe.

They all kill.

Re: weed [message #276703 is a reply to message #276606] Thu, 02 August 2007 06:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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BlueThen wrote on Wed, 01 August 2007 19:25

I never tried smoking, never will. I don't care how addicting it is. I just dont think any type of smoking should be legalized. It kills the smoker and the croud around him/her. Unlike a bullet through the head, this kills slowly... and painfully. It really doesn't matter of what type of smoking is more or less severe.

They all kill.



Then don't do them. Those in this thread who do smoke already know the negative (and even positive) health effects of weed and other drugs. They're knowingly doing this to themselves, and you have no right to tell them otherwise. When they smoke around you in public areas, I can see your complaints, otherwise... get off of your high horses.


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Re: weed [message #276876 is a reply to message #276606] Thu, 02 August 2007 21:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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BlueThen wrote on Wed, 01 August 2007 18:25

I never tried smoking, never will. I don't care how addicting it is. I just dont think any type of smoking should be legalized. It kills the smoker and the croud around him/her. Unlike a bullet through the head, this kills slowly... and painfully. It really doesn't matter of what type of smoking is more or less severe.

They all kill.




Why? If people want to put things into their bodies, they should have the choice to. We don't need the government acting like some sort of parent, to tell us what we can and can't put in our bodies.
Re: weed [message #276878 is a reply to message #276337] Thu, 02 August 2007 21:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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mrpirate wrote on Tue, 31 July 2007 14:47

Salvia can be fun, but be warned that the first time you smoke it you're probably going to be scared shitless. After that it isn't so bad because you know what to expect. Just don't smoke when you're already drunk or intoxicated some other way (this is how I managed to have such a bad experience). Try doing LSD if you can find it--fascinating stuff.

EDIT: The first couple times I tried it I was smoking 20x. The time I had such a terrible fright was actually 5x... but I was very drunk and stoned and I took a pretty big hit.

If you're a non-smoker it might be hard for you to smoke since you're supposed to hold in the hit for 30ish seconds. Holding it in is a trip because as soon as you exhale you can feel reality starting to fall apart...


I really cant getg high off salvia.
I have 5x, and I smoke a half-quarter to myself.
Hold it in,
Exhale,
And all I feel is a slight tingle in my feet.


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Re: weed [message #276918 is a reply to message #272284] Fri, 03 August 2007 05:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You're smoking 5x...

I didn't get any result out of 20x, but I also didn't hold it in long enough, probably didn't smoke enough, and I also bought shit from some local store. I also found out that I can get 3 grams of salvia for the price I paid for 1 locally.


Re: weed [message #276928 is a reply to message #272284] Fri, 03 August 2007 06:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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How are you smoking it?

You have to smoke it through a bong or a pipe since a joint won't burn hot enough. Also make sure you're holding it in as long as you can.
Re: weed [message #276929 is a reply to message #272284] Fri, 03 August 2007 06:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I used a bong. I held it for about 20 seconds, but I don't think I ripped enough of the salvia.

Re: weed [message #285246 is a reply to message #272284] Wed, 19 September 2007 21:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I realize this topic hasn't been replied to in forever, but the forums are looking pretty dead lately anyway. I'm generally stoned from the moment I wake up 'til the moment I go to sleep, and somehow I manage to maintain a full-time job and a decent GPA. Go figure.

To all you fucks bitching about smoking: Vaporizers!

To all you fucks bitching about weed and mental health: http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=6798

Some of you guys might want to look at the effects of alcohol on your mental health as well. It's been shown to lead to depression, interfere with sleep patterns, and cause long-term anxiety. As long as it's legal, I suppose. Listen

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I've smoked salvia a few times. Seriously dude... fuck. Way too intense to smoke more than like once a year. Scared the shit out of me the last time I did it and I've vowed never to smoke it again. And I've done my share of other psychedelic drugs but nothing comes close to the intensity of salvia.


Salvia is fucking ridiculous. Last time I did it, it ripped my world apart and I really haven't wanted to bother with it since.

brb schizophrenic episode


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Re: weed [message #285272 is a reply to message #272284] Thu, 20 September 2007 02:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I feel sorry for you. You need drugs for your life not to suck.

Alcohol has absolutely no effect on my mental health btw.


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Re: weed [message #285407 is a reply to message #285272] Thu, 20 September 2007 20:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jecht wrote on Thu, 20 September 2007 05:42

I feel sorry for you. You need drugs for your life not to suck.

Alcohol has absolutely no effect on my mental health btw.


I'm terribly sorry you "need" alcohol (surprise! also a drug.) for your life not to suck as well. Feel free to be continue being a condescending prick though.

Marijuana has no effect on my mental health either, but that's because it's been established that smoking is only harmful to those who are already predisposed for mental health issues.


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My only drug is caffeine (I dropped it last year, but thanks to College... :/).

It doesn't affect me the way it did last year and before, though. I feel barely different, except for the fact that I don't yawn as much as I do when I'm caffeine-less.

Fuck everything else. :!


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I used to like the drink... a little too much. I drank plenty during high-school, and my first year in university. It wasn't until a very bad night, that I realized I was addicted to the bottle, and it messed me up.

Now, I don't do anything, save a mug of tea (loe caffeine) in the morning. Sometimes, I'll get a thirst for another stiff Rum n' Coke, but that's where cool, filtered water comes in. Satisfied


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