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Osama Bin Laden is offering 25000 for anyone willing to be a suicide bomber. So far none of those four people that took the offer have appeared to collect their cash.
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maybe the money is to fund their attack, not reward it :rolleyes:
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Your right java, it is hipocracy. Hipocritical that they support sanctions on them while members of the UN give sadaam what he needs and money. The fact that they lie to their own member nations just because they dont like them is why they cant be trusted and shouldnt have ANY say in what we do. And yes they are a corrupt mob. I dont blame George W for going on with the war without the UN's permission, I blame the UN for not giving permission fast enough. We as a country needed to deploy fast before the Iraqis got entrenched, had we not then it might have costed much more time and more soldiers lives. But again the UN doesnt care about US soldiers, they just care about how much they can get away with, without us knowing about it. You claim that the are humanitarians, while that may be true it holds no justification for their actions. And many of the terms of the charter where broken by the UN themselves, SO WHY THE HELL SHOULD WE FOLLOW IT? And to those iraqis that have freedom and no fear of being raped and torured, I believe that they will agree: The ends justifies the means.
And your right, i dont like the French, gotta problem with that? i dont care, thats just the way it is. If they dont like us just for the sake of hating us, I can do the same.
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Fri, 31 December 2004 13:49 |
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=gbull=[L]=]Your right java, it is hipocracy. Hipocritical that they support sanctions on them while members of the UN give sadaam what he needs and money. The fact that they lie to their own member nations just because they dont like them is why they cant be trusted and shouldnt have ANY say in what we do. And yes they are a corrupt mob. I dont blame George W for going on with the war without the UN's permission, I blame the UN for not giving permission fast enough. We as a country needed to deploy fast before the Iraqis got entrenched, had we not then it might have costed much more time and more soldiers lives. But again the UN doesnt care about US soldiers, they just care about how much they can get away with, without us knowing about it. You claim that the are humanitarians, while that may be true it holds no justification for their actions. And many of the terms of the charter where broken by the UN themselves, SO WHY THE HELL SHOULD WE FOLLOW IT? And to those iraqis that have freedom and no fear of being raped and torured, I believe that they will agree: The ends justifies the means.
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"Well HE did it" isn't legal justification for anything. And take special note: it certainly doesn't make what the UN OR the US have done legal by any means.
The fact of the matter is, you signed a contract saying you wouldn't go fucking around with other member states and their governments unless the Security Council says so, and they did not. Here we are today, and the U.S. and the coalition are in the wrong legally on the matter. Therefore, the ends cannot possibly justify the means because the means to which the ends have come about have been illegal in nature. That too, gbull, is hypocrisy on the part of the United States and their coalition as well.
And I'm going to let you in on a little secret, the Polish probably didn't give a damn who liberated them from Hitler. In comparison, this argument has no merit in this discussion.
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And your right, i dont like the French, gotta problem with that? i dont care, thats just the way it is. If they dont like us just for the sake of hating us, I can do the same.
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Bigotry isn't cool. Especially when you don't know that all the French don't like you. I suggest you open your eyes and see that the French, like Americans, or Europeans, or Germans, or whatever, are generally a good people. And what you spew here is nothing but hatred.
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Fri, 31 December 2004 14:41 |
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And here comes SEAL with his typical stereotyping... I hate race cars.
These bastards are willing to strap on a bomb and blow themselves up for their "Allah"... and we can't make them listen to dogs barking? Please.
The "insurgents" in Iraq are not primarily Iraqis. They are from other countries, members of terrorist organizations who do NOT want to see Iraq turn to a Democracy. They are also trying to stop the elections because they know that if we succeed in Iraq, it will be bad for them. In Afghanistan, people braved suicide bombing threats and long lines just to exercise their democracy, and the Iraqis will too.
I'm the bawss.
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Very off topic, but...
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Osama Bin Laden is offering 25000 for anyone willing to be a suicide bomber. So far none of those four people that took the offer have appeared to collect their cash.
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maybe the money is to fund their attack, not reward it :rolleyes:
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Does it really matter which its for?? Either way he's paying for someone to kill innocent people, i suppose you support this sort of thing or something.
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Sat, 01 January 2005 15:08 |
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Cowmisfit, I must congratulate you on your complete misinterpretation of my statement.
The original post mentioned suicide bombers somehow not turning up to claim the payment offered for their attacks... because if you were to attack someone in a suicide-bomber stylee, obviously you'd be somewhat dead. I was suggesting perhaps the 25,000 (currency unknown) was to actually pay for the bomb (an integral part in the whole "suicide bomber" concept, wouldn't you say?)
I'm struggling to understand how you got the impression that I support suicide bombing from that.
EDIT: reworded the last sentence 
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I'm struggling how you got the impression that [he supports] suicide bombing from that.
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I'll concede the point that I worded that last sentence rather incompetently, but I'm fairly sure this...
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i suppose you support this sort of thing or something.
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and before your play the bigotry card, im part French so get off my case.
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If they dont like us just for the sake of hating us, I can do the same.
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idiot, the French government are the ones who hate us. And like i said before, get off my case. I cant hate what i am without hating myself. Comprende? I dont believe i even cared this much to reply to your post if you dont know anything about me to begin with. Think what you want about me, i dont give a shit. If you can make such generalizations about me, then I can do the same about you. Its just i will have the class to keep them to myself, and not fall to your level of Stereotypical thinking.
and dont call me Champ.
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wtf dude, do you live on these forums??? i post and as im editing it you already reply while im in the process of creating the post. dude. I made my point, think what you want. If you think im a bigot. So be it. But just remember what i said before:
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If you can make such generalizations about me, then I can do the same about you. Its just i will have the class to keep them to myself, and not fall to your level of Stereotypical thinking.
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=gbull=[L]=]I dont believe i even cared this much to reply to your post if you dont know anything about me to begin with. Think what you want about me, i dont give a shit. If you can make such generalizations about me, then I can do the same about you. Its just i will have the class to keep them to myself, and not fall to your level of Stereotypical thinking.
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Nice to see you editing your posts, too. What may be new information to you, I know about you only what you allow me to know. You said you don't like the French. You also said you didn't like them because they didn't like you. You generalized their nation prejudicedly (because you DID NOT say their government), and thus you are a bigot. It's not my fault you decided to post here, champ and reveal this unsympathetic and disgraceful side of yourself. Especially after your little tirades about capital punishment.
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You're chalk full of irony tonight, aren't you? 
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