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Sun, 02 November 2014 11:57

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That was an entertaining read. Comparable to watching adults argue with kindergarteners.

Starbuzz wrote on Mon, 27 October 2014 19:08

edit: We see the same theme of Quigley's "Weapons Systems and Political Stability" in political affairs today; beneath all the suits and ties, behind all the diplomatic conferences and paper baiting lies raw military power backed up by nuclear bombs, aircraft carriers, bombers, tanks, and lots of armed men. Because without it diplomacy is nothing; you would get laughed off the table.

The same principle applies to people under representative governments. Gun ownership = POWER. Period.

Exactly, how serious do you think the world would have taken us if we dropped a shitload of teddy bears on Japan instead of the nukes? As devastating as suffocating on stuffed animals would be for them, it would not have had the lasting political power of the bombs.

Ethenal wrote on Sat, 16 August 2014 23:52

did you not click my link? the police just deployed tear gas again

The events at Ferguson got pretty brutal, the only way anyone could know what happened is by watching the live feeds that were available, as the media coverage was limited... to say the least. But even those were few and far between after the media blackout at 12 am (forgot the exact date/day). I actually still have some recorded portions currently.
After the media blackout and after the events of that day, tear gas canisters, smoke grenade canisters, rubber bullets, bean bags, and live shells were found at the scene.
Some even claim private contractors where hired, but i have yet to find anything trust-able with that information.

OT: Anyone who honestly thinks that getting rid of guns would solve our problems, just look at the "war on drugs," or the "war on terror." You could also look through the history of different totalitarian states, which usually disarmed the populace before committing mass murder. Seeing as history repeats itself, there is reason to believe the US is and has been falling into a similar situation. Militarization of the police force, Excessively corrupt politicians, an ever increasing amount of police brutality, and the sheer size of the US government today are just a few major examples of red flags....

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		more guns in america = less crime By: InternetThug on Tue, 22 July 2014 08:16
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