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Re: Ban Anthrax/Jesse/IvyLeague from the Renegadeforums... [message #488900 is a reply to message #488896] Wed, 30 July 2014 21:20 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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IvyLeague wrote on Wed, 30 July 2014 22:46


So upset I might permanently ban someone from my gaming community for no reason. Oh wait that's you, how's that 6th grade education working out for you? McDonald's hiring?

Here we have rationalization and the ad hominem fallacy!

Here's the scoop: we banned you for "whatever" (it's not even worth mentioning since it's more or less counter to what I'm explaining), and you see that you're banned for whatever. This, to the ego, either implies:

A. "Jesse" = "bad" - "Jelly" = "good"
B. "Jelly" = "bad" - "Jesse" = "good"

The ego simply cannot (this is not isolated to Jesse) accept that it is "bad" or in the "wrong," so therefore we bring in the concept of rationalization! with rationalization, the ego/mind does some convenient mental gymnastics in order to convince himself/herself that s/he is in the right, and their "enemy" is in the wrong.

However, "Jelly" is a whole community and it's pretty difficult to portray more or less a mental abstraction as an enemy - however, if you put a "face" on it, it makes it much easier for the ego to rationalize!

Therefore, Ethenal and liquidv2 are the enemies, we are bad, evil people, and we banned Jesse for absolutely no reason. See how simple that is? It entirely vindicates Jesse of any wrongdoing whatsoever and makes both of us into a convenient mental image that he can assault at any time. He has never met me, he doesn't know shit about me, and yet here he is claiming I have a sixth grade education and implying I'm considering working at McDonalds (I've worked food service, I'd prefer just starving).

Just go look at HaTe's posts on the forums, he's in the exact same situation you are, all he does is repeatedly comment on how me and liquid are conspiring against him, when the simple reality is that we both consistently point out how ridiculous he's being - which is precisely why he specifically picks us out.

Remember when this whole thing started and you immediately went for the "raven" card - oh boo hoo, the big bad Ethenal and liquidv2 banned me without consulting the rest of the team - the reality being, of course, that raven had seen the topic and I believe actually suggested the ban length of six months. Yeah, the moment that got disproved in your mind, you immediately dropped the concept and went to the next scapegoat for your ban.

The rationalization ego game can be played indefinitely, everyone more or less operates the mechanism each and every day, but to different extents. In all honesty I'm not sure if "rationalization" could be transcended as a mechanism, but a deep philosophical discussion on ego defense mechanisms isn't really needed or wanted here - I'm just explaining you, to you.

Look, you're banned forever, never coming back, zilch, never. Zero. No chance. Whatsoever. You might as well just get used to posting on these forums occasionally complaining about how much of a nazi I am, but I really doubt it'll change anything.

IvyLeague wrote on Wed, 30 July 2014 22:46


It's really funny how irrelevant Freud's idea of the ego is compared to the idea that someone is egotistical, but I guess you'd have to have a higher education than Alabama Public high to know that.


I think you already know this, but you didn't even like... say anything right here. Just a meaningless statement to pretend you have any clue what I'm talking about.

by the way, notice how you contradict yourself by implying I only have a sixth grade education, and then in the very next sentence implying I have a high school education! well, which one is it? your word against yours, lol!

IvyLeague wrote on Wed, 30 July 2014 22:56

Ethenal wrote on Wed, 30 July 2014 20:54

you're just upset that I'm actually intelligent despite not playing the college game you treasure so much


Yeah which is why you always post shit that makes absolutely no sense in an attempt to appear intelligent in front of nerds that have just as little direction in life as you do. Jelly Games admin is the most important title you've ever held.


"Most important" title? lol, I don't know about that man. and "nerds that have just as little direction in life as you do" is code for "anyone that disagrees with Jesse." What does "nerd" really mean to you and why is everyone but you conveniently a "nerd?"

-TLS-DJ-EYE-K wrote on Mon, 18 March 2013 07:29

Instead of showing us that u aren't more inteligent than a Toast, maybe you should start becomming good in renegade Thumbs Up

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