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| C&C Commando : Nod Turret [message #89935] |
Tue, 25 May 2004 12:16   |
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Aircraftkiller
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Registered: February 2003
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My 2 cents...
Anything that Westwood made and is out there for Renegade should be freely distributed. Who made these Westwood assets no bearing on the issue. If someone wants to keep these models and not distribute them to the community then it's everyone's lose. The idea of having a mod community to me means everyone shares assets and everyone tries to make their own cool maps using the assets (or their own new ones). If someone wants to keep certain items under their thumb and not let everyone play with em then shame on you. Be a pal and let these people share the fun.
Off my soapbox now. Lol.
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I only give out things when they're needed. SeaMan "thinks" he needs them, but he's not doing anything. All it looks like is "I want you to give me all that cool stuff so I can play with it," not "I want you to give me that cool stuff so I can put it to use."
I gave him the conditions I'd release them under, e.g. "You get some actual work done, show me levels, buildings, vehicles, soldiers, weapons, all of it to the point of where it's going to be a playable alpha or beta and I'll give them away without a problem."
Instead of doing what I ask, he spends his time trolling the forum, posting "give me E3 models nowzor" every single time the subject is brought up. I won't release things that people will waste.
And yeah, you do look a lot different in that Petroglyph group photograph. I couldn't even tell who you were until Cypher pointed you out.
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| C&C Commando : Nod Turret [message #89998] |
Tue, 25 May 2004 16:01 |
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Genocide
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Registered: October 2003
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Well the fact of the matter is that they are going to be put to a good use, Eric created these and it’s his authority to say who has them.
As a kid did you ever share your toys with your friends, did you ever let the person have a chance? Or was you the boy in the corner, selfish and necessarily unkind?
Commando is going somewhere, I remember when Renalert was pretty much nothing and I have the videos to prove it, nothing should stop you from letting commando have them.
Considering giving them out is not enough, and commando isn’t just saying we should have them and don’t share like yourself, the commando team would share the original assets with the community.
Failing to understand how to share is somewhat sad, I hope this is resolved and you realise that you know, don’t be afraid to be kind.
Fist Of Fate Renegade Mod:
http://fof.deadlyfear.com
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| C&C Commando : Nod Turret [message #90004] |
Tue, 25 May 2004 16:12 |
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Ferhago
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/me whistles...
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as you hoard those E3 models and aren't giving them to somebody who really needs them. *cough*
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Kearns, if you wonder what this about...
-In a strange fist of fate Aircraftkiller was chosen by Louis Castle to keep several Renegade models from E3 2000, which were designed by you.
-Later, Aircraftkiller announces that he has those models.
So, I decide to ask him nicely if I can use them for my upcoming C&C Renegade project. He says no.
-Then, when I post about several features included in my project, he comes and asks how to add them to his own project.
I wanted him exchange the models and I would give him information on how to add those features. He says no.
What I need is the E3 2000 models for Flame Tank, Recon Bike and Nod Harvester. Obtaining them would be a vital part of C&C Commando's progress.
Also, Aircraftkiller isn't going to use those models for a long time, if ever.
So, as you're the original author of those models.. what do think?
Should Aircraftkiller keep storing them, or should he release them for use in C&C Commando?
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Oooookay this is pretty much what I got from that.
"Waaaaah mommy he wont share his toys with me make him share!"
Anyone else get that?
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| C&C Commando : Nod Turret [message #90006] |
Tue, 25 May 2004 16:17 |
phlakaton
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It's simple. I'll find a way to post all the stuff I have so everyone and their mother can get it and use it. If someone wants to run around claiming it was something they made then I'll call their bluff and we'll be done with it.
Now I would figure there would be some opposition to this idea because people are keeping some goods to themselves claiming they have a right to keep certain things private to their mod. So fire away or flame it up or whatever it is that you want to do with such fodder.
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| C&C Commando : Nod Turret [message #90012] |
Tue, 25 May 2004 16:32 |
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Aircraftkiller
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| Genocide |
Well the fact of the matter is that they are going to be put to a good use, Eric created these and it’s his authority to say who has them.
As a kid did you ever share your toys with your friends, did you ever let the person have a chance? Or was you the boy in the corner, selfish and necessarily unkind?
Commando is going somewhere, I remember when Renalert was pretty much nothing and I have the videos to prove it, nothing should stop you from letting commando have them.
Considering giving them out is not enough, and commando isn’t just saying we should have them and don’t share like yourself, the commando team would share the original assets with the community.
Failing to understand how to share is somewhat sad, I hope this is resolved and you realise that you know, don’t be afraid to be kind.
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Uhh, don't lecture to me about sharing. "Commando" has been in the works for months now, and all I've seen is a SAM Site, a cargo truck, and a weapon. The rest of it is Renegade concept art, and some 8x8 pixels from C&C.
I'll save Eric the trouble and upload all this stuff to the public.
http://dynamic6.gamespy.com/~renalert/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=3&t=1953
Go ahead and mess with them. I still want to see some progress on this. If all it's going to be limited to is "how many gimmicks I can put in Renegade," then I don't know why you asked to begin with, Seaman.
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| C&C Commando : Nod Turret [message #90091] |
Wed, 26 May 2004 00:09 |
PhrozenUnit
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Registered: April 2004
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V_NODBIKE.w3d and V_NODTNK.W3D are "under-sized", The Nod bike being 1 kb big and the Nod tank being 5kbs big. All they have in them are lights.
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| C&C Commando : Nod Turret [message #90092] |
Wed, 26 May 2004 00:13 |
Deactivated
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Registered: February 2003
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| Aircraftkiller |
I don't know what's wrong with the W3D files. They imported perfectly fine for me.
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It might be possible that you missed something.
The Nod recon bike is only 608 bytes.
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