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Re: nickname Spoofers fix? [message #339668 is a reply to message #339666] Tue, 08 July 2008 05:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Right so why not add the serials that we ban into that list and problem solved?


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Re: nickname Spoofers fix? [message #339669 is a reply to message #338046] Tue, 08 July 2008 05:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Uh list maintained by GameSpy? We need a maintainer? And you could still use keygens and fake serials.

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Re: nickname Spoofers fix? [message #339670 is a reply to message #339661] Tue, 08 July 2008 05:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Clown wrote on Tue, 08 July 2008 13:49

So if I understand correctly, EvilWhiteDragon's method would cross-check GSA players' serial with the XWIS database to make sure it's valid?
If that's right this could solve so many problems we have Wink

I do think that's the idea. However, they might need Olaf's help for that.


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Re: nickname Spoofers fix? [message #339680 is a reply to message #339661] Tue, 08 July 2008 07:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Clown wrote on Tue, 08 July 2008 13:49

So if I understand correctly, EvilWhiteDragon's method would cross-check GSA players' serial with the XWIS database to make sure it's valid?
If that's right this could solve so many problems we have Wink

Indeed, and would automatically create nickname protection, as everyone will connect through XWIS, even though they wouldn't notice.
This has as main benefits that serverowners can properly ban, and that GSA players will get more servers to choose from Wink As there is no real reason not to have your server on GSA then.


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Re: nickname Spoofers fix? [message #408253 is a reply to message #338046] Sun, 25 October 2009 02:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Any updates on this? Blush

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Re: nickname Spoofers fix? [message #408255 is a reply to message #338046] Sun, 25 October 2009 02:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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yeah it would be handy to merge the two together, and easily able to ban other nicks as well.

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Re: nickname Spoofers fix? [message #408401 is a reply to message #408255] Mon, 26 October 2009 12:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Direct connect should stay since most of the people lost their keys and stuff. What we need to do is register IP adresses with the nickname and if someone else joins with a different ip with your account, the game just qkicks him out of the server. The nickname owner can input multiple ips and even change them. Thats would be awesome! Very Happy
Re: nickname Spoofers fix? [message #408404 is a reply to message #408401] Mon, 26 October 2009 12:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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YazooGang wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 13:39

Direct connect should stay since most of the people lost their keys and stuff. What we need to do is register IP adresses with the nickname and if someone else joins with a different ip with your account, the game just qkicks him out of the server. The nickname owner can input multiple ips and even change them. Thats would be awesome! Very Happy

Sigh, it's been said before. Dynamic IP's gets in the way of this. How would it differentiate between a random person's IP and your IP that is different?

Also why is it that half of this topic isn't even about the LAN spoof glitch?


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Re: nickname Spoofers fix? [message #408430 is a reply to message #338046] Mon, 26 October 2009 15:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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true, ppl could hack your network, via something like hamahachi and do what?

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Re: nickname Spoofers fix? [message #408473 is a reply to message #408430] Mon, 26 October 2009 19:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sladewill wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 16:11

true, ppl could hack your network, via something like hamahachi and do what?

what Huh


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Re: nickname Spoofers fix? [message #408476 is a reply to message #408473] Mon, 26 October 2009 20:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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andr3w282 wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 20:21

Sladewill wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 16:11

true, ppl could hack your network, via something like hamahachi and do what?

what Huh

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Re: nickname Spoofers fix? [message #408487 is a reply to message #408473] Mon, 26 October 2009 22:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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andr3w282 wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 19:21

Sladewill wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 16:11

true, ppl could hack your network, via something like hamahachi and do what?

what Huh


Virtual-LAN programs, like Garena or ListChecker for WC3, or Hamahachi for games nobody plays. They fool the program running into thinking an external internet server is a local area network server. It's useful for games with defunct (Or nonexistant) online play options like Red Alert 1, or for games that have stricter latency standards for LAN play compared to online play (Which is what they're used for in WC3, mostly). The danger is, of course, that someone could use it for Renegade to use any nickname they cared to enter in LAN mode, even if directconnecting was removed.


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Re: nickname Spoofers fix? [message #408500 is a reply to message #408487] Tue, 27 October 2009 01:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dover wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 06:52

andr3w282 wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 19:21

Sladewill wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 16:11

true, ppl could hack your network, via something like hamahachi and do what?

what Huh


Virtual-LAN programs, like Garena or ListChecker for WC3, or Hamahachi for games nobody plays. They fool the program running into thinking an external internet server is a local area network server. It's useful for games with defunct (Or nonexistant) online play options like Red Alert 1, or for games that have stricter latency standards for LAN play compared to online play (Which is what they're used for in WC3, mostly). The danger is, of course, that someone could use it for Renegade to use any nickname they cared to enter in LAN mode, even if directconnecting was removed.

You could then only join servers in the same virtual network. Aka, you could then pick any nickname, but you wouldn't be able to join regular servers.


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Re: nickname Spoofers fix? [message #408536 is a reply to message #338046] Tue, 27 October 2009 09:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I know what hamatchi does - it's the fact he said "hack your network" via hamatchi. I lol'd hard.

IMA HAXIN YOUR NETWORKZ THROUGH UR HAMATCHIZ

With that, I still say what?. EWD took the words out of my mouth , there's absolutely nothing hamatchi can do that would have someone "nick spoof" in an online server. You can't "nick/ip" spoof with virtual networking( LAN over WAN LOLOL ). The technology doesn't correlate.


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Re: nickname Spoofers fix? [message #408558 is a reply to message #408536] Tue, 27 October 2009 12:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Lmfao:
Hamahachi?
Hamatchi?
its Hamachi...

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Re: nickname Spoofers fix? [message #408563 is a reply to message #408558] Tue, 27 October 2009 12:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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YazooGang wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 20:14

Lmfao:
Hamahachi?
Hamatchi?
its Hamachi...

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Spelling/Grammar: This is a gaming forum, not literature. Keep the urge to correct to yourself. If it pains you so much to see someone misspell a word, miss a comma, etc., give them lessons in private because we don't want to see it on the forums. However, we would appreciate it if everyone's post was at least legible.



Actually, the correct term is VPN or VPN software if you want.


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Re: nickname Spoofers fix? [message #408569 is a reply to message #408500] Tue, 27 October 2009 13:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 01:23

Dover wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 06:52

andr3w282 wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 19:21

Sladewill wrote on Mon, 26 October 2009 16:11

true, ppl could hack your network, via something like hamahachi and do what?

what Huh


Virtual-LAN programs, like Garena or ListChecker for WC3, or Hamahachi for games nobody plays. They fool the program running into thinking an external internet server is a local area network server. It's useful for games with defunct (Or nonexistant) online play options like Red Alert 1, or for games that have stricter latency standards for LAN play compared to online play (Which is what they're used for in WC3, mostly). The danger is, of course, that someone could use it for Renegade to use any nickname they cared to enter in LAN mode, even if directconnecting was removed.

You could then only join servers in the same virtual network. Aka, you could then pick any nickname, but you wouldn't be able to join regular servers.


I wouldn't know, but I guess that makes sense. The only experience I have with VPN software is ListChecker for WC3, and since it all works through Blizzard's public Battle.net service, there is never a distinction made. I guess it was a bit presumptuous to think Battle.net and XWIS are alike in that regard.


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Re: nickname Spoofers fix? [message #408590 is a reply to message #408563] Tue, 27 October 2009 16:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 19:53

YazooGang wrote on Tue, 27 October 2009 20:14

Lmfao:
Hamahachi?
Hamatchi?
its Hamachi...

Edit: OOPS!
Quote:

Spelling/Grammar: This is a gaming forum, not literature. Keep the urge to correct to yourself. If it pains you so much to see someone misspell a word, miss a comma, etc., give them lessons in private because we don't want to see it on the forums. However, we would appreciate it if everyone's post was at least legible.



Actually, the correct term is VPN or VPN software if you want.

But the name of the VPN software in question is indeed Hamachi. Tell Me


Re: nickname Spoofers fix? [message #409213 is a reply to message #338046] Tue, 03 November 2009 11:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think Direct Connect should query a database of XWIS Nicks to see if there is one before that person joins.. so we dont have 300 "crimson", "nightma12", "halo2pac"'s running around.
I absolutely hate nick stealers.
Why be called by a nick or a name if someone else has it too?


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Re: nickname Spoofers fix? [message #426601 is a reply to message #409213] Thu, 22 April 2010 08:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think serials are out of the question; sure they might work for a while, but look ahead a little ways. Tib sun was released as freeware a few months ago; we have RA2 to go, and then Renegade, then what? Obviously there is going to either be a serial work around by EA (probably some stolen keygen/cdcrack or w/e (like they did with BattleField2 for steam)) or these new free players can't join on-line. And face it, there will be a lot more serials floating around once this happens, and I have the suspicion that they'll be able to easily acquire a new serial.

Sure, you could say "EA won't ever release Renegade for free" but I think thats just banking everything on luck. You do that and they do release, then all the code made to check serials was a waste of time.

(Then again it is EA, so they might release it for free with broken internet anyways).


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Re: nickname Spoofers fix? [message #426624 is a reply to message #338046] Thu, 22 April 2010 14:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Isnt there a way to see how someone connects to your server, like gamespy, DC, or XWIS and owners should be able to maintain what they would like to allow players to connect by. Even if you dont broadcast to gamespy users can directly connect.

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Re: nickname Spoofers fix? [message #427112 is a reply to message #338046] Wed, 28 April 2010 20:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I saw a few hundred posts up someone was crying about dynamic Ip's? just have a system with a universal 'password' for your nick, and have a tool that connects to a server, sends you nick, pass and IP. then join the server you want. that server then connects to the service and checks your ip. mismatch? add the mismatched Ip to a list of spoof attemptors. good to go. sorta.. kinda... like renguard.. except more robust.

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Re: nickname Spoofers fix? [message #427121 is a reply to message #338046] Wed, 28 April 2010 23:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The problem is within this 'universal' password.

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Re: nickname Spoofers fix? [message #427145 is a reply to message #338046] Thu, 29 April 2010 10:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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How is that?
a universal password is already in use for your nick on xwis.
just have to implement that in a different login server.


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Re: nickname Spoofers fix? [message #427169 is a reply to message #427145] Thu, 29 April 2010 16:57 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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halo2pac wrote on Thu, 29 April 2010 13:02

How is that?
a universal password is already in use for your nick on xwis.
just have to implement that in a different login server.


Okay, great idea. Now how will that any better than just using XWIS directly? Furthermore, how are you going to explain to *new* players what this separate login server is, where to download the connection tool and how to create an account on it. Also, how will you solve username disputes? Usernames and passwords aren't something that can be copied from XWIS (this *is* seperate, right?) and there are certainly players with malicious intents who would attempt to steal usernames that haven't been claimed yet.
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