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Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #374361 is a reply to message #374044] Mon, 02 March 2009 06:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In England there is a demand from employers for C# coders.
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Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #374465 is a reply to message #374044] Mon, 02 March 2009 13:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Since we're going into stories, I'll show mine Razz

I started with QBASIC as Freshman in High School. I played with some VB6 during that time, but never really got into major GUI projects..I then went through the follow cycles:

1. MSL
2. C++ (Managed)
3. C#
4. C++ (Native)
5. Vb.Net

My primary language is C# because it's fast and easy and I enjoy it. That's really all you need to do; Find a language you enjoy and stick with it.

This is my little "secret" that I use when deciding what language to use a project because I still use C#, Vb.Net, and C++ (A lot, but not enough for full-blown apps):

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Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #374496 is a reply to message #374044] Mon, 02 March 2009 17:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nice story..I wish I would have started earlier but o well

is this a good java tut site

the tech guy who does the network for the school computers showed it to me

http://freejavaguide.com/
Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #374539 is a reply to message #374044] Mon, 02 March 2009 22:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #374581 is a reply to message #374044] Tue, 03 March 2009 06:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Haskell is pretty easy.

Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #374600 is a reply to message #374044] Tue, 03 March 2009 09:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I pretty much only know c++. And not really *that* good with it. The thing with programming is that once you've "mastered" a complex enough language (like c++) it's relatively easy to learn more as the basic idea is the same. All you need is a tutorial or two and you can start working on stuff.

C++ isn't the easiest language to start with, I'm told, however it's not really that hard + it's widely used and can do lots and lots of stuff.


Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #374603 is a reply to message #374044] Tue, 03 March 2009 09:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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C++ is easy, but too many tutorials use that std:: crap. Which make it seem complicated.
Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #374615 is a reply to message #374603] Tue, 03 March 2009 11:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RoShamBo wrote on Tue, 03 March 2009 08:59

C++ is easy, but too many tutorials use that std:: crap. Which make it seem complicated.

Which tuts do you recommend?
Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #374616 is a reply to message #374044] Tue, 03 March 2009 11:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/
Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #374618 is a reply to message #374616] Tue, 03 March 2009 11:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RoShamBo wrote on Tue, 03 March 2009 10:30

http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/

thanks
Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #374746 is a reply to message #374603] Wed, 04 March 2009 07:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RoShamBo wrote on Tue, 03 March 2009 18:59

C++ is easy, but too many tutorials use that std:: crap. Which make it seem complicated.
I've always used using namespace std, but you're right..choosing the wrong tutorial could get messy. Very Happy


Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #374824 is a reply to message #374746] Wed, 04 March 2009 13:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RTsa wrote on Wed, 04 March 2009 14:17

RoShamBo wrote on Tue, 03 March 2009 18:59

C++ is easy, but too many tutorials use that std:: crap. Which make it seem complicated.
I've always used using namespace std, but you're right..choosing the wrong tutorial could get messy. Very Happy


Nah, just choosing a tutorial that uses std:: will lead to massive confusion about how it all works. Then people start writing buggy code and just get frustrated when it doesn't work.

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Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #374840 is a reply to message #374824] Wed, 04 March 2009 14:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RoShamBo wrote on Wed, 04 March 2009 12:04

RTsa wrote on Wed, 04 March 2009 14:17

RoShamBo wrote on Tue, 03 March 2009 18:59

C++ is easy, but too many tutorials use that std:: crap. Which make it seem complicated.
I've always used using namespace std, but you're right..choosing the wrong tutorial could get messy. Very Happy


Nah, just choosing a tutorial that uses std:: will lead to massive confusion about how it all works. Then people start writing buggy code and just get frustrated when it doesn't work.

These are the sites im use for java tuts you think there ok?

http://www.learn-programming.za.net/learn_java_programming.html
http://java.sun.com/new2java/
http://freejavaguide.com/ <---gave by the schools network administrator
http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/index.html

Want to make sure to do the right tuts just how there are better c++ ones as you said above

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Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #374841 is a reply to message #374840] Wed, 04 March 2009 14:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SSnipe wrote on Wed, 04 March 2009 21:44


http://www.learn-programming.za.net/learn_java_programming.html
http://java.sun.com/new2java/
http://freejavaguide.com/ <---gave by the schools network administrator
http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/index.html

Want to make sure to do the right tuts just how there are better c++ ones as you said above


java totally sucks, it is overly complicated, pointless and looks terrible.
Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #374842 is a reply to message #374841] Wed, 04 March 2009 14:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RoShamBo wrote on Wed, 04 March 2009 13:50

SSnipe wrote on Wed, 04 March 2009 21:44


http://www.learn-programming.za.net/learn_java_programming.html
http://java.sun.com/new2java/
http://freejavaguide.com/ <---gave by the schools network administrator
http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/index.html

Want to make sure to do the right tuts just how there are better c++ ones as you said above


java totally sucks, it is overly complicated, pointless and looks terrible.

...then what else do you prefer?
Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #374844 is a reply to message #374842] Wed, 04 March 2009 15:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SSnipe wrote on Wed, 04 March 2009 17:57

RoShamBo wrote on Wed, 04 March 2009 13:50

SSnipe wrote on Wed, 04 March 2009 21:44


http://www.learn-programming.za.net/learn_java_programming.html
http://java.sun.com/new2java/
http://freejavaguide.com/ <---gave by the schools network administrator
http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/index.html

Want to make sure to do the right tuts just how there are better c++ ones as you said above


java totally sucks, it is overly complicated, pointless and looks terrible.

...then what else do you prefer?

python of C++
EDIT: Ga toch maar for Python.


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Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #374845 is a reply to message #374842] Wed, 04 March 2009 15:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SSnipe wrote on Wed, 04 March 2009 21:57

RoShamBo wrote on Wed, 04 March 2009 13:50

SSnipe wrote on Wed, 04 March 2009 21:44


http://www.learn-programming.za.net/learn_java_programming.html
http://java.sun.com/new2java/
http://freejavaguide.com/ <---gave by the schools network administrator
http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/index.html

Want to make sure to do the right tuts just how there are better c++ ones as you said above


java totally sucks, it is overly complicated, pointless and looks terrible.

...then what else do you prefer?


C++ and PHP

Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #374859 is a reply to message #374845] Wed, 04 March 2009 15:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RoShamBo wrote on Wed, 04 March 2009 14:04

SSnipe wrote on Wed, 04 March 2009 21:57

RoShamBo wrote on Wed, 04 March 2009 13:50

SSnipe wrote on Wed, 04 March 2009 21:44


http://www.learn-programming.za.net/learn_java_programming.html
http://java.sun.com/new2java/
http://freejavaguide.com/ <---gave by the schools network administrator
http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/index.html

Want to make sure to do the right tuts just how there are better c++ ones as you said above


java totally sucks, it is overly complicated, pointless and looks terrible.

...then what else do you prefer?


C++ and PHP



Well ill add those Smile

PHP thats kinda like html right? for websites and such? also what good tuts do you know of for PHP?

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Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #374880 is a reply to message #374044] Wed, 04 March 2009 17:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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http://www.w3schools.com/PHP/php_intro.asp
Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #374976 is a reply to message #374880] Thu, 05 March 2009 10:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RoShamBo wrote on Wed, 04 March 2009 17:15

http://www.w3schools.com/PHP/php_intro.asp



http://www.php.net/
Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #375001 is a reply to message #374976] Thu, 05 March 2009 12:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Zack wrote on Thu, 05 March 2009 11:49

RoShamBo wrote on Wed, 04 March 2009 17:15

http://www.w3schools.com/PHP/php_intro.asp



http://www.php.net/

Ive noticed with my own experience and from helping other people, often the official standard documents are to detailed or confusing for people new to programming.


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andr3w282 wrote on Thu, 05 March 2009 13:35

Zack wrote on Thu, 05 March 2009 11:49

RoShamBo wrote on Wed, 04 March 2009 17:15

http://www.w3schools.com/PHP/php_intro.asp



http://www.php.net/

Ive noticed with my own experience and from helping other people, often the official standard documents are to detailed or confusing for people new to programming.

I agree with that. When I *tried* to do pascal, it was a complete fat phail


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Re: What Are The Best Programming Language To Learn? [message #375352 is a reply to message #374044] Sat, 07 March 2009 18:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Go for C/C++ and assembler. Everything is bloated (needs some runtime shit/whatever), slow or just fails.

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Sir Kane wrote on Sat, 07 March 2009 17:44

Go for C/C++ and assembler. Everything is bloated (needs some runtime shit/whatever), slow or just fails.

Thanks for advice

but for now im start slow..like java

but quesiton with no flaming

which is the best tutorial to start first

http://www.learn-programming.za.net/learn_java_programming.html
http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/index.html
http://java.sun.com/new2java/
http://freejavaguide.com/
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SSnipe wrote on Sun, 08 March 2009 05:11

Sir Kane wrote on Sat, 07 March 2009 17:44

Go for C/C++ and assembler. Everything is bloated (needs some runtime shit/whatever), slow or just fails.

Thanks for advice

but for now im start slow..like java

but quesiton with no flaming

which is the best tutorial to start first

http://www.learn-programming.za.net/learn_java_programming.html
http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/index.html
http://java.sun.com/new2java/
http://freejavaguide.com/


java is not a good start. It's very bad.
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