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Tue, 16 December 2008 06:34  |
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if i get this right... this patch is gonna introduce a few more ways how to catch/prevent cheats ingame/in data folder and whatever or is this wrong and is this just a update from renguard basically?
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| Re: Question [message #363316 is a reply to message #363315] |
Tue, 16 December 2008 06:45  |
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The makers will give you a better answer but from what i understood, your assumption is correct: a bunch of info will be handled server side if possible (read: if it doesn't cause too much lag) and the client side information will be better verified server side before being "processed" (like BIATCH currently does).
Exemple: instead of sending "client: I've done 50 damage", it'll send: "I did damage with a rifle" and the server will tell how much damage a rifle does.
I don't know if this example is exactly what the TT-people do, but it's the principle.
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| Re: Question [message #363317 is a reply to message #363315] |
Tue, 16 December 2008 07:15 |
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I won't divulge everything, but yes it will completely replace RenGuard. And what gozy explained is indeed one part of the countermeasures.
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| Re: Question [message #363320 is a reply to message #363315] |
Tue, 16 December 2008 07:21 |
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im sure u got the anti damage hack and whatever figured out easily but how about the cheats that make your arty bullets 100% straight all the time and radar hack and no screenshake and shit like that
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| Re: Question [message #363323 is a reply to message #363320] |
Tue, 16 December 2008 07:34 |
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| Hitman wrote on Tue, 16 December 2008 08:21 |
im sure u got the anti damage hack and whatever figured out easily but how about the cheats that make your arty bullets 100% straight all the time and radar hack and no screenshake and shit like that
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Probably, those are handled via objects.ddb as far as I know, just like damage.
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| Re: Question [message #363326 is a reply to message #363321] |
Tue, 16 December 2008 08:04 |
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| DutchNeon wrote on Tue, 16 December 2008 15:21 |
Would it detect RoF and Velocity cheats too now? Pretty much the most seen cheats nowadays next to *cheat name removed*
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That's prolly because they're the "only" "undetectable" cheats that can do serious damage.
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| Re: Question [message #363328 is a reply to message #363315] |
Tue, 16 December 2008 08:12 |
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Yes they will be detected, and no I won't say how. Suffice to say that even if what we are putting in now is bypassed after a while I still have some backup ideas.
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| Re: Question [message #363330 is a reply to message #363315] |
Tue, 16 December 2008 08:26 |
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TBH: if you say that whoever plays around with bypasses will get their Renegade serial banned off xwis, that would already be a good signal to some people.
Or better: create an unique TT hash, based on a combination of variables and ban that. Then people would need to change their hardware / OS / ... to get unbanned.
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| Re: Question [message #363381 is a reply to message #363330] |
Tue, 16 December 2008 16:27 |
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| Goztow wrote on Tue, 16 December 2008 07:26 |
TBH: if you say that whoever plays around with bypasses will get their Renegade serial banned off xwis, that would already be a good signal to some people.
Or better: create an unique TT hash, based on a combination of variables and ban that. Then people would need to change their hardware / OS / ... to get unbanned.
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...I was under the impression that RG currently uses a hardware ban.
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| Re: Question [message #363389 is a reply to message #363330] |
Tue, 16 December 2008 17:27 |
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| Goztow wrote on Tue, 16 December 2008 10:26 |
TBH: if you say that whoever plays around with bypasses will get their Renegade serial banned off xwis, that would already be a good signal to some people.
Or better: create an unique TT hash, based on a combination of variables and ban that. Then people would need to change their hardware / OS / ... to get unbanned.
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YaRR bans something that only changes when you change your isp, though this way does have one problem, if someone were to live on the same street with the same isp they would be banned(this is very unlikely to happen) here's a link: http://dcomproductions.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=860&start=0
To me this system works pretty well.
Changing hardware for some people would not be that big of a hassle, changing the isp on the other hand can be a big hassle.
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| Re: Question [message #363906 is a reply to message #363381] |
Fri, 19 December 2008 00:48 |
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| Dover wrote on Wed, 17 December 2008 10:27 |
| Goztow wrote on Tue, 16 December 2008 07:26 |
TBH: if you say that whoever plays around with bypasses will get their Renegade serial banned off xwis, that would already be a good signal to some people.
Or better: create an unique TT hash, based on a combination of variables and ban that. Then people would need to change their hardware / OS / ... to get unbanned.
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...I was under the impression that RG currently uses a hardware ban.
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Yes it does, but only one component that doesn't need to be physically changed in any way to bypass the ban.
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| Re: Question [message #364068 is a reply to message #363315] |
Sat, 20 December 2008 00:01 |
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But it's better than nothing. Especially if the general public is unaware of it.. Though it's still 'hackable', it makes it more difficult, especially to the average player. 
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