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| SSnipe wrote on Mon, 04 August 2008 16:04 |
well im in 10th grade i got while till i get out of high school but i wanna get prepared now on what im study and do as a job for the rest of my life
dont you think they will act weird or think im stupid if i got asking what job tittles there programs allow me to do?
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Heck no. For one thing, it's in their interest to help you because it means you could be a future customer (student), and two, it shows that you are a concerned student which says something about your personality, and work ethic.
In fact, it's good that you're in tenth grade, because once the counselor at the college gives you an idea on what you want to do, and what you need to do it, you can then talk to your high-school counselor, and they can help you pick high-school courses that will help you get into the college.
Getting a head start on other students will give you an edge in the long run.
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| Re: Tech Degree [message #344940 is a reply to message #344763] |
Mon, 04 August 2008 14:19 |
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so just talk to a consular on what jobs opportunity's i can get doing which program pretty much?
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| Re: Tech Degree [message #344941 is a reply to message #344940] |
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| SSnipe wrote on Mon, 04 August 2008 16:19 |
so just talk to a consular on what jobs opportunity's i can get doing which program pretty much?
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Yeah, and then see what else they offer. They might suggest something totally interesting that you may have never thought of.
Also, make sure they tell you what you need for entrance, like Grade Point Average, test scores, etc.
They'll ask you questions too, and make sure you ask them whatever comes to your mind. You'd be surprised at how much you can learn from one appointment. At the end, ask for brochures, pamphlets, anything to do with the school, and the courses you are interested in.
If you can, bring a parent with you, because they may have questions too.
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| Re: Tech Degree [message #345032 is a reply to message #344763] |
Mon, 04 August 2008 20:47 |
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If you wanna learn just programming or just languages, go buy yourself a book, it's much cheaper. If you wanna learn the real tricky shit, that's what college is for.
Also, try not to think about expenses. There are an enormous amount of scholarships out there for any dumb thing, look them up. Then there's always student loans, which can come with a low interest rate and you can pay off after you finish college, when you're making the big mula anyway.
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| Canadacdn wrote on Wed, 02 July 2008 15:52 |
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| Re: Tech Degree [message #345035 is a reply to message #344763] |
Mon, 04 August 2008 21:00 |
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i might just do that......
with that said i got some more questions.....
1)whats better ITT or MIT?
2)is there a MIT near riverside california (i googled and cant seem to find one
3)so ITT degree is better then normal degree?
4)I cant tell is pc tech anywhere in here
http://www.itt-tech.edu/programs/
5)i forgot if this is answered whats a pc techs annual salary
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| Re: Tech Degree [message #345036 is a reply to message #345032] |
Mon, 04 August 2008 21:01 |
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| SlikRik wrote on Mon, 04 August 2008 23:47 |
Also, try not to think about expenses. There are an enormous amount of scholarships out there for any dumb thing, look them up.
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This man is right. There's even scholarships just for being black.. well, of course if there was a scholarship for not being black yeah we all know how that would go.. Anyways, don't mean to take it off topic, sorreh.
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| Re: Tech Degree [message #345042 is a reply to message #344763] |
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Don't try to go for the high-paying careers just because they pay well. Make sure that you want to take that career path because you're interested and you enjoy it.
Honestly, your counselor will be the best resource you have when choosing your career path. When you have questions, they're there to answer them. If they don't know, they can find out and let you know. This is just repeating what has been said before, but you're probably better off consulting your counselor. Really.
Ask about schools you're interested in, what programs they have related to what you're looking for, what scholarships can help you out, and what you need in order to get those scholarships.
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| Re: Tech Degree [message #345050 is a reply to message #345042] |
Mon, 04 August 2008 22:40 |
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| cmatt42 wrote on Mon, 04 August 2008 22:01 |
Don't try to go for the high-paying careers just because they pay well. Make sure that you want to take that career path because you're interested and you enjoy it.
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i think it is cause im into computer more then my entire extended family im on them form morning to night and always fixing my family's pc....all the time and i love to do it if i had ANY career it would be something i love doing with pc's
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| Re: Tech Degree [message #345070 is a reply to message #344763] |
Tue, 05 August 2008 01:34 |
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is it bad to joni knowing nothing at first? or do you think i should learn before i attend ITT in the future
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| Re: Tech Degree [message #345081 is a reply to message #344763] |
Tue, 05 August 2008 04:40 |
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| SSnipe wrote on Sun, 03 August 2008 23:56 |
well someone said i can make up to 25,000 a year?
is that true?
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That seems to be the average salary for PC techs...sometimes even $30,000+ IF you get into networking technologies as well.
Don't overlook mastering networking technologies. Most PC techs that started out with a A+ Cert also go and get the Network + certification. Not only are you fixing PC's but will also be qualified to work with networking problems. If you search for jobs online, you will see there is heavy demand for PC techs with networking skills.
If you are going the self-taught route, then college will help you with English writing skills and sometimes, it even helps with being more professional...these are important qualities for a PC tech.
And lol cheesesoda was a bit harsh on you but he has a point. Also, 100% of computer issues can be solved by Google. Perhaps I can search better becuase I went to an awesome middle school where, in 7th grade, the whole concept of "Google/context search words" were hammered into my head by the librarian lady. But I give you credit for being curious and passionate about computers...you are trying so that's very good.
Anyway, I see a semester or two at a community college taking English and speech classes will help. Take a class that prepares you for speech by taking a class that tests your presentation skills. Reading, writing, and speech skills are important. you don;t have to be elite pr0 at it but you need to have a firm grip. Writing is important as PC techs are expected to document EVERY problem they face and their solution so it can be used for future reference.
So a lot of skills come into play. Just work hard and you will get back the fruit of your labor.
Good luck man....all the best for you.
EDIT: Without waiting any further, get this book:
http://cgi.ebay.com/A-Certification-All-in-One-Exam-Guide-S-Mike-Meyers_W0QQitem Z220263427704QQihZ012QQcategoryZ378QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksi dZp1638Q2em122
It's a really big book but full of pictures and vital information...you will enjoy this. The book is used by many people who go on to take the A+ exam. And I see, it will perfectly help you get started.
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| Re: Tech Degree [message #345122 is a reply to message #345035] |
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| SSnipe wrote on Tue, 05 August 2008 00:00 |
i might just do that......
with that said i got some more questions.....
1)whats better ITT or MIT?
2)is there a MIT near riverside california (i googled and cant seem to find one
3)so ITT degree is better then normal degree?
4)I cant tell is pc tech anywhere in here
http://www.itt-tech.edu/programs/
5)i forgot if this is answered whats a pc techs annual salary
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ITT (I think) is one of those more commercial small colleges that you might see on a TV commercial.
MIT (as far as I know, and at least when I refer to it) is the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, world-known for being a notoriously difficult school to get into, as well as for the top-notch engineers and scientists it produces. It's where all those hackers in every movie you've ever seen about some computer hacker went to college.
I haven't looked into ITT much (at all really), but my guess would be that they generally stick to the necessities for your degree. You might get out faster, but that's because you're not taking the general-education classes that many larger colleges require in order to produce a more well-rounded person. Because many employers value a well-rounded graduate, they will choose someone with a degree from a big college over one from a school like ITT.
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| Canadacdn wrote on Wed, 02 July 2008 15:52 |
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| Re: Tech Degree [message #345137 is a reply to message #345122] |
Tue, 05 August 2008 11:04 |
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| SlikRik wrote on Tue, 05 August 2008 08:49 |
| SSnipe wrote on Tue, 05 August 2008 00:00 |
i might just do that......
with that said i got some more questions.....
1)whats better ITT or MIT?
2)is there a MIT near riverside california (i googled and cant seem to find one
3)so ITT degree is better then normal degree?
4)I cant tell is pc tech anywhere in here
http://www.itt-tech.edu/programs/
5)i forgot if this is answered whats a pc techs annual salary
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ITT (I think) is one of those more commercial small colleges that you might see on a TV commercial.
MIT (as far as I know, and at least when I refer to it) is the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, world-known for being a notoriously difficult school to get into, as well as for the top-notch engineers and scientists it produces. It's where all those hackers in every movie you've ever seen about some computer hacker went to college.
I haven't looked into ITT much (at all really), but my guess would be that they generally stick to the necessities for your degree. You might get out faster, but that's because you're not taking the general-education classes that many larger colleges require in order to produce a more well-rounded person. Because many employers value a well-rounded graduate, they will choose someone with a degree from a big college over one from a school like ITT.
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so if MIT is better there still no harm going to ITT? i mean if i go to ITT to be a pc tech thats not a bad job choice right? it makes good money?
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| Re: Tech Degree [message #345315 is a reply to message #344763] |
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Here's the bottom line.
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Sure, you could make a decent living with a whatever degree from ITT Tech and the mediocre job you get from it.
But the way the world works is that employers always look for the more qualified person. If you're a graduate of a bigger school (for example MIT), you've got the schools reputation as a damn good tech school, you've got the grades from the damn good school, and you've got the complete education from the damn good school, which is why this graduate might just land the job of a lifetime over the graduate from ITT where he could START with a salary of over $100k/year for example.
Therefore, if you really want your dream job, don't settle for a small school such as ITT just cuz it's cheaper.
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Now, here's some advice.
1) Look around your state for public universities that have the degree program you want. If you're lucky, you can find one with a comparitively cheap tuition, since it's in-state.
For example, because I live in CT and I go to University of CT (UCONN!!!! RAH RAH RAH), my entire fee to go there is $16k/year, instead of the full price of like $28k or something more expensive. $16k, although a lot in reality, is still comparitively cheap for a top-notch public university.
2) Think about what kind of job you want, then call up a company that has that type of job, and ask what school's THEY would recommend you go to to be ready for that type of job. Give them a little information, like your name and email addy. You might still be a little young for the college search process, however this shouldn't matter. It shows the company that you take an interest in them and would be willing to work very hard to get a job there.
NOTE: This is most certainly not guaranteed to get you a job there, so don't absolutely plan on it.
However, if the employer is any good, they'll put your information somewhere in a file for later, so if you do actually end up applying years down the road, they might bring that file back up and be like, "hey this kid actually did it." It will give you a better chance of being hired, and therefore landing your dream job.
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| Canadacdn wrote on Wed, 02 July 2008 15:52 |
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| Re: Tech Degree [message #345343 is a reply to message #344763] |
Wed, 06 August 2008 12:20 |
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well theres a ITT only 10 miles away from where i love now (more or less) and theres a university only 15 minute walk up the street (UCR=university of California riverside) i mean i do want to go to a cheaper closer collage but most jobs like iv heard look into what school trhey went to and if it takes me paying a little bit more money to make more money later on ill do it IF thats the case but im not sure what to do anymore..
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| Re: Tech Degree [message #345351 is a reply to message #344763] |
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I am studying for IT tech (Junior system engineer)aswell and I must say I got pretty bored after working experience at a small company. I just don't want to sit that amount of time behind the PC.
If sitting behind the PC is your hobby then its probably a bad idea to do the same thing as your work. At least so far it's not working for me.
Realize that your probably get to sit behind the PC 5 hours a day if not 8.
Not saying that it can't be exciting because IT is very widespread. IT managers, Network engineers, Consultancy, Programmers.
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| JPNOD wrote on Wed, 06 August 2008 12:59 |
I am studying for IT tech (Junior system engineer)aswell and I must say I got pretty bored after working experience at a small company. I just don't want to sit that amount of time behind the PC.
If sitting behind the PC is your hobby then its probably a bad idea to do the same thing as your work. At least so far it's not working for me.
Realize that your probably get to sit behind the PC 5 hours a day if not 8.
Not saying that it can't be exciting because IT is very widespread. IT managers, Network engineers, Consultancy, Programmers.
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i already do sit at my pc form morning to night WHEN THERES NOTHING ELSE BETTER TO DO since i was little and making it a job may just make life more fun when i get done off the pc 
Heres a question on program here is called
Software Applications & Programming: which comes with
Visual Basic programmer or developer
C++ programmer or developer
Java programmer or developer
system application developer
pretty much they learn programming languages to make and debug software? yes or no?
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| SSnipe wrote on Wed, 06 August 2008 15:21 |
pretty much they learn programming languages to make and debug software? yes or no?
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lol yes. And it helps A LOT to be good in Math.
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| pawkyfox wrote on Wed, 06 August 2008 19:37 |
| SSnipe wrote on Wed, 06 August 2008 15:21 |
pretty much they learn programming languages to make and debug software? yes or no?
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lol yes. And it helps A LOT to be good in Math.
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ya im in special ed in math...
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| Doitle wrote on Thu, 07 August 2008 09:11 |
Ssnipe University of California - Riverside is probably just fine.
Also when you said you are in special ed in math, do you mean you are in a special advanced class or... a special slow class... : /
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the one for slow people...not that im dumb i just went to the department of mental health as a requirement to my cope cuase i got expelled in middle school of any riverside school district campus and they siad im the first one to ever get the highest score in this test that involves me doing shit with my eyes but reading and remember things iv read is low so thye said to be safe im special ed if i want to be...lol but i still think im go to iTT i might wanna be a sdoftware programmer along with pc tech
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| Re: Tech Degree [message #345538 is a reply to message #344763] |
Thu, 07 August 2008 20:07 |
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heres a few questions
1)i might want to take up programming as showed here
http://www.itt-tech.edu/teach/list/it-sap.cfm
which states
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This program can help graduates begin careers in a variety of entry-level positions in various fields involving IT and software applications and programming. These may include such positions as Visual Basic programmer or developer, C++ programmer or developer, Java programmer or developer, or system application developer.
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can i walk in there not knowing anything or do i have to learn some of it before i attend if i go to into that program?
2)does that program only teach one type of programming language? or all of them stated?
3)if i buy a book should it be one on lets say c++ (since its in the class) or one on programming?
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| Re: Tech Degree [message #345550 is a reply to message #345538] |
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Some courses may have a recommended text so you should get those but if you're really enthusiastic, it would be good to start learning first so you don't go into the course lost.
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