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Re: How old should kids be before they start fucking? [message #292084 is a reply to message #292052] Tue, 23 October 2007 02:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rocko wrote on Mon, 22 October 2007 20:16


Seems like a link abstinence believers keep in their bookmarks to pull out when they need it.

Sperm doesn't just slip through latex, you'd only get pregnant with a condom if you use it improperly, like let it fall out while you're in a girl or something then yeah she's going to get pregnant. You're virtually 100% protected from pregnancy if you have a condom and the girl is on birth control.


Well, I'm not going to pretend like I know that the counterexample you provided isn't true because for all I know, it could be. I don't necessarily believe in abstinence, I just believe that the age the schools are giving these contraceptives out is way too young. At 13 I wasn't thinking about sex at all, I was fully immersed in football and school. If children this young were to have sex, they couldn't possibly think about how serious the ramifications could be.

FYI, I've done the probability rate of pregnancy for a condom and the pill in the past, and I think the figure came out to be a .002% failure rate. That was around 2 years ago so don't quote me on that.


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Re: How old should kids be before they start fucking? [message #292129 is a reply to message #291299] Tue, 23 October 2007 07:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Since the whole point of sex is to procreate, I say have sex when you are ready to have a kid. I don't mean insofar as physical development, but emotionally able and knowledgeable enough to know how to bring up a child successfully.

But then I don't believe in having sex, period, unless it's in an attempt to procreate, so perhaps that's influencing my "age minimum" belief.
Re: How old should kids be before they start fucking? [message #292139 is a reply to message #291299] Tue, 23 October 2007 09:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sex is too pleasurable, and most Christians will not tell you that you should only have sex when you're married and only if you're going to procreate. Just only when you're married.

As far as contraceptives go, I know a girl who got pregnant even after several forms of birth control were used, including spermicide, condoms, and birth control. That didn't seem to work.


Re: How old should kids be before they start fucking? [message #292151 is a reply to message #292139] Tue, 23 October 2007 10:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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cheesesoda wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 12:10

Sex is too pleasurable, and most Christians will not tell you that you should only have sex when you're married and only if you're going to procreate. Just only when you're married.

As far as contraceptives go, I know a girl who got pregnant even after several forms of birth control were used, including spermicide, condoms, and birth control. That didn't seem to work.


lol? DId not work? Weird. Dont Get It Anyway, I don't think that religion should really come into this topic.

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Re: How old should kids be before they start fucking? [message #292200 is a reply to message #292151] Tue, 23 October 2007 14:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The Elite Officer wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 12:55

cheesesoda wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 12:10

Sex is too pleasurable, and most Christians will not tell you that you should only have sex when you're married and only if you're going to procreate. Just only when you're married.

As far as contraceptives go, I know a girl who got pregnant even after several forms of birth control were used, including spermicide, condoms, and birth control. That didn't seem to work.


lol? DId not work? Weird. Dont Get It Anyway, I don't think that religion should really come into this topic.

cheesesoda wrote:

".....Sex is too pleasurable......"

This is true




Some of us base our life around religion. So to make a discussion without it probably won't happen.


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Re: How old should kids be before they start fucking? [message #292266 is a reply to message #292139] Tue, 23 October 2007 18:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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cheesesoda wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 12:10

Sex is too pleasurable, and most Christians will not tell you that you should only have sex when you're married and only if you're going to procreate. Just only when you're married.

As far as contraceptives go, I know a girl who got pregnant even after several forms of birth control were used, including spermicide, condoms, and birth control. That didn't seem to work.

Then she apparently wasn't using one or more of them correctly. Either that or she has the worst luck.


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Re: How old should kids be before they start fucking? [message #292269 is a reply to message #292266] Tue, 23 October 2007 19:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Homey wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 20:46

cheesesoda wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 12:10

Sex is too pleasurable, and most Christians will not tell you that you should only have sex when you're married and only if you're going to procreate. Just only when you're married.

As far as contraceptives go, I know a girl who got pregnant even after several forms of birth control were used, including spermicide, condoms, and birth control. That didn't seem to work.

Then she apparently wasn't using one or more of them correctly. Either that or she has the worst luck.


That bad luck happens to women every day.


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Re: How old should kids be before they start fucking? [message #292278 is a reply to message #292266] Tue, 23 October 2007 21:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Homey wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 20:46

cheesesoda wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 12:10

Sex is too pleasurable, and most Christians will not tell you that you should only have sex when you're married and only if you're going to procreate. Just only when you're married.

As far as contraceptives go, I know a girl who got pregnant even after several forms of birth control were used, including spermicide, condoms, and birth control. That didn't seem to work.

Then she apparently wasn't using one or more of them correctly. Either that or she has the worst luck.

or is a retard.


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Re: How old should kids be before they start fucking? [message #292279 is a reply to message #292278] Tue, 23 October 2007 21:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rocko wrote on Wed, 24 October 2007 00:26

Homey wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 20:46

cheesesoda wrote on Tue, 23 October 2007 12:10

Sex is too pleasurable, and most Christians will not tell you that you should only have sex when you're married and only if you're going to procreate. Just only when you're married.

As far as contraceptives go, I know a girl who got pregnant even after several forms of birth control were used, including spermicide, condoms, and birth control. That didn't seem to work.

Then she apparently wasn't using one or more of them correctly. Either that or she has the worst luck.

or is a retard.

No, she's not a retard. I don't befriend idiots... most of the time.


Re: How old should kids be before they start fucking? [message #292282 is a reply to message #291299] Tue, 23 October 2007 21:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Although I don't have a problem against others doing it if they're willing to support a baby, personally I'd rather my wife to wait until marriage to have sex, and I'm going to wait. I just think its wierd, and I don't want to have to worry about any of that.

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Re: How old should kids be before they start fucking? [message #292389 is a reply to message #291299] Wed, 24 October 2007 09:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Whoa! Childrens mustn't have sex before 30 years here in Italy. That's what my mother repeats me every day. It's however obvius that with the famous adolescence book "3MSC"(3 metri sopra al cielo) silly boys have the instinct to make love with young girls. It's not good polite. It's a big trouble for our schools.

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Re: How old should kids be before they start fucking? [message #292609 is a reply to message #291299] Thu, 25 October 2007 10:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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30 seems kind of late to start Listen
Re: How old should kids be before they start fucking? [message #292828 is a reply to message #291299] Fri, 26 October 2007 06:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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yah. First of all, please forgive me for the stupid bumps that i did yesterday. It was my first time. Then, in USA kids love to fuck, but here in Italy you must be mature, because in many cases the sex under 18 is taken like a rape by the authorities.

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Re: How old should kids be before they start fucking? [message #293051 is a reply to message #291299] Sat, 27 October 2007 04:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If it's "Kids" who are having sex, then never. So if you're not considered a kid, then you should be able to have sex (Meaning, around 16 or 18 or so).

Existing laws are fine with me.

As for the whole condems given out to middle schoolers...
That's BS. They're just encouraging kids to have sex then. And purely for pleasure, then.


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Re: How old should kids be before they start fucking? [message #293266 is a reply to message #293051] Sun, 28 October 2007 01:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Cabal8616 wrote on Sat, 27 October 2007 06:36

If it's "Kids" who are having sex, then never. So if you're not considered a kid, then you should be able to have sex (Meaning, around 16 or 18 or so).

Existing laws are fine with me.

As for the whole condems given out to middle schoolers...
That's BS. They're just encouraging kids to have sex then. And purely for pleasure, then.

You're right. But remember your country case where a 12 years old stupid boy fucked a teacher and make it pregnant. The teacher was JAILED for rape! Then, in Italy our boys raped 12 years old girls and it was a scandal.


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Re: How old should kids be before they start fucking? [message #293545 is a reply to message #291299] Mon, 29 October 2007 12:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Of course the teacher was jailed for rape. She had sex with a fucking 12-year-old. Even if the kid made the first move, the teacher (as an adult should have known better than to engage in intercourse with a minor both legally unable to give consent and psychologically unprepared for the act.

IMHO, 18 is what the age of consent ought to be in an ideal world- because that is realistically the absolute minimum age at which a person is able to assume the responsibilities of parenthood (since that is a possibility, however unlikely, every time one has sex). However, for the exact same reasons (in order to be realistic, that is), 16 is where the age of consent must rest. By that age, a person has both the physical urges and the means (via the internet, mainly) to understand them as well as the ability (not merely the desire) to go against a parent's authority. Simply put, if kids want to have sex, they're going to- and there isn't much parents or teachers can do about it except arm those kids with the knowledge to protect themselves.

I'm 21 and still a virgin, and it isn't because I've been kept in the dark about sex. It is very possible- even likely- that I'd have had sex several years ago had I not been such a social nonentity, but anymore I'm quite content to just wait it out for someone to come along who I'd be willing to settle down with. On the other side of the coin, one of my close friends is barely a year older than me and has already had one child which she had to put up for adoption. Several of my other friends have been raped or abused, several more are reluctant to have sex because they know someone who has been raped or abused, there's another few who just haven't gotten around to doing it yet, and a few more who are sexually active, healthy, and happy as a clam.

It all varies from person to person, but it is abundantly clear that most of the problems with sex in this country (and the world at large) lie with the folks who can't see past the physical act to understand that- as with any interaction between two people- the physical is inextricably connected to the mental and the emotional. That, and the fact that there are real and tangible consequences to any such act, especially one that can lead to the creation of another life.

No, there is no way anybody as young as 12 should be fucking. It doesn't matter if both parties say yes (though it is much, much worse if they don't), the human body prior to the mid/late teens is not developed enough, nor are the minds of those involved able to completely understand what they are doing and why. There's nothing wrong with educating middle-school aged kids about the nature of sex, but there's no reason why they should also be learning about contraceptives and prophylactics- because they shouldn't be fucking in the first place, and at that age parents and teachers can actually prevent their kids from doing so. Once they reach high school, the entire situation changes, and a complete run-down on protection is absolutely essential for the "we're gonna fuck anyway" crowd, but prior to that a child's experience with sex should be limited to biological knowledge.


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Re: How old should kids be before they start fucking? [message #293549 is a reply to message #291353] Mon, 29 October 2007 13:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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PlastoJoe wrote on Fri, 19 October 2007 04:00

Keeping in mind the fact that a lot of 20+ year olds aren't emotionally mature enough to handle sex, let alone a kid, I'd say it's perfectly reasonable to wait until you're married.

Quite honestly, the argument that "people are gonna have sex, so we should just get them to wear their plastic" is ridiculous. We're perfectly capable of keeping our zippers up. [b]Hell, I've been doing it for the last 21 years.[b]

Obviously....
I thin that around 16 isn't a bad age, if both the boy and the girl really want it. Waiting till marage is oldfashioned and pretty useless I'd say...
I think that if a boy and a girl really love each other they'll just start experimenting anyway, and eventually "do it".


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Re: How old should kids be before they start fucking? [message #293634 is a reply to message #291299] Mon, 29 October 2007 19:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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To answer this question we need to establish where our standard of living is coming from. Where do we get the idea to question premarital sex in the first place

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Quackpunk wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 21:33

To answer this question we need to establish where our standard of living is coming from. Where do we get the idea to question premarital sex in the first place

Religion, I believe. It also says it in Health books. Big Ups


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Re: How old should kids be before they start fucking? [message #293644 is a reply to message #291299] Mon, 29 October 2007 20:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Who said we are talking about premarital? We are talking about 11 year old kids having sex, which is quite another animal. What would you think if some jr high punk stuck his slimy dick into your 11 year old sister (whether it was her idea or not)? That's cool with you?

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Re: How old should kids be before they start fucking? [message #293645 is a reply to message #293644] Mon, 29 October 2007 21:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Blazer wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 21:58

Who said we are talking about premarital? We are talking about 11 year old kids having sex, which is quite another animal. What would you think if some jr high punk stuck his slimy dick into your 11 year old sister (whether it was her idea or not)? That's cool with you?

wow Blazer you sure love to talk about 11 year old kids having sex.


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Re: How old should kids be before they start fucking? [message #293658 is a reply to message #293645] Tue, 30 October 2007 00:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rocko wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 22:14

Blazer wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 21:58

Who said we are talking about premarital? We are talking about 11 year old kids having sex, which is quite another animal. What would you think if some jr high punk stuck his slimy dick into your 11 year old sister (whether it was her idea or not)? That's cool with you?

wow Blazer you sure love to talk about 11 year old kids having sex.


Well this IS a topic about how young people should be when they start having sex...


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Rocko wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 21:14


wow Blazer you sure love to talk about 11 year old kids having sex.


No shit that's what this topic is about. Try reading once in awhile, especially the first post of a thread Razz

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Re: How old should kids be before they start fucking? [message #293714 is a reply to message #291299] Tue, 30 October 2007 07:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, this is a troublemaking world. Sex is a taboo in many countries.

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Cabal8616 wrote on Sat, 27 October 2007 07:36

If it's "Kids" who are having sex, then never. So if you're not considered a kid, then you should be able to have sex (Meaning, around 16 or 18 or so).

Existing laws are fine with me.

As for the whole condems given out to middle schoolers...
That's BS. They're just encouraging kids to have sex then. And purely for pleasure, then.



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