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I'm not a big fan of front-wheel drive, nor Nissan's, but it has the creamy smooth VQ engine, so it'll be one great cruiser, especially on the highway.
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| Re: What new car to buy (for me) [message #282230 is a reply to message #248947] |
Mon, 03 September 2007 15:44 |
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Eh, Nissan.
You never really know what to expect with them (Altima got recalled because of an issue with the air filter that can cause it to burst into flames (with the right conditions, of course)). I'm curious to know why you turned down both of Chrysler's offerings. 
So, fuck the NOS kit I guess, eh (it's a lease and it has a CVT)?
... Time? Dude, you'll be spending three years in the car, those two hours you'd spend bothering them would be well worth it.
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| Re: What new car to buy (for me) [message #282313 is a reply to message #248947] |
Tue, 04 September 2007 05:04 |
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I turned down the Charger because I didn't like how close the center console was to the seat...it felt like I was sitting crammed up against a brick wall. The 300C was luxurious and plenty powerful, but it just seemed like too big of a car for me, and the price on it would have been $45k....fuck that I could get a BMW for that much 
Since the Nissan is just a lease, and I got the super-covers-everything warranty, I could give a flying fuck what breaks or is defective on it, as they will have to fix it for free
I'm quite pleased with the Altima Coupe so far. It has plenty of power, and gadgets galore. I smile everytime I walk up and get in and press the button (intellikey), and it greets me with "Blazer has connected" (Bluetooth pairing).
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| Re: What new car to buy (for me) [message #282495 is a reply to message #248947] |
Tue, 04 September 2007 20:24 |
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Speaking of cars... now Blazer is trying to get me a new car... and now that my minivan needs a new engine, it's looking more and more tempting.
Yes, that's right... my 2005 Dodge Grand Caravan, has yet another problem on its list.
1) Something has been clunking around inside the driver's-side sliding door for months and they said they fixed it...
2) The brake pads were gone by 10,000 miles (ok, I drive a little over the speed limit and brake harder than most women) but every set of pads since then has been horrendously loud and squealing.
3) Since my last set of brake pads, there is a strange high-pitched whining/humming sound coming from the back end when I turn the wheel towards the left while moving at any speed.
4) The service department for the dealership SUCKS. Horrible customer service, and they don't even DO everything they say they're going to do. These dipshits actually disassembled my entire gas tank system before discovering that the "problem" I described wasn't a problem at all, but a new Federal regulation for 2005. (I wasn't even asking them to fix it anyway - long story)
5) New NAV disks for my GPS (new road updates) are $200 what the fuck!
6) They don't mention that ongoing maintenance is going to cost several hundred dollars for stuff that sounds relatively simple. (I bought a new car with a warranty because my dad is a mechanic, which means his own family's cars suffer)
7) The paint job sucks ASS - I had to get the liftgate handle repainted because the sprayer at the car wash took off a quarter-sized chunk of paint when the car was only a few months old.
8) The DVD screen is TINY and last I checked, there was no way to upgrade it.
9) I need a new engine. I started noticing a tick-tick-tick sound when I started the car for the last several weeks and this weekend it got louder. I took it to my dad and he said "you need a new engine". Apparently some rod is doing that. Apparently my car was low on oil and I NEVER GOT A WARNING LIGHT before serious damage happened to the engine.
So, with all that in mind, I am pretty tired of this car. So, once I get the new engine in this car, it will essentially be at 0 miles again and I'm going to trade it in and get my ass on a lease. I had an outstanding interest rate and after over 3 years I'm just barely coming close to maybe not being upside-down on the damn thing. I'm just one of those people who's going to want to be in a new car every 3 years or so and I will always be making car payments so long as I am at this standard of living... so I'm going to lease it up. I'm looking at the new Nissan Quest minivan since they actually did a pretty nice job with Blazer... I'm just waiting for them to get a fully-loaded one in because I'm not going back to base models when I'm used to backup sensors, GPS, DVD player, and leather seats. Plus Blazer's bluetooth thing is fucking awesome and the Intellikey is, too... and the fully loaded Quest allegedly has those things, and a backup camera too. :)
I just need to get past the hurdle of this new engine. I am daring them to deny my warranty for it...
I'm the bawss.
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| Re: What new car to buy (for me) [message #282505 is a reply to message #248947] |
Tue, 04 September 2007 22:21 |
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I'd avoid the Quest, to be honest. It's a decent van, but reliability has been inconsistent. I'm not a big fan of it's styling, but that is subjective.
The new Chrysler vans debut soon, and they look like they will continue Chrysler's dominance of the market. However, I'm not a huge fan of Chrysler quality, and sounds as if you aren't either. Of course, if you like to be a bit badass, the Dodge Magnum with the 3.5L V6 or the HEMI is a great vehicle, and is based on a Mercedes platform. You do sacrifice space, and you get some bigger blind spots in exchange for the 'cool' factor though.
General Motors has also released some attractive new tall wagons, which the industry calls 'crossovers' . The Saturn Outlook and GMC Acadia would be in a similar price range as a Nissan Quest, and are better vehicles all around. The Saturn is cheaper, and exhibits a different styling flair, and the GMC is geared to a more upmarket buyer. Plus, both engines run an efficient 3.6L V6 engine that has smooth performance, and is decent at the pumps, thanks to it being mated to a six-speed automatic transmission.
As for your current van, I suggest you find a Mopar forum and take your story there. These guys are the biggest and they may be able to help you find a solution. If anything, they may be able to arm you with any Technical Service Bulletin's, and other information on your van, especially its engine, which I am guessing is the pushrod 3.8L. Ignore the forum n00bs (it's a Mopar forum  ) and see if anyone can provide you with some insight.
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| Re: What new car to buy (for me) [message #282508 is a reply to message #248947] |
Tue, 04 September 2007 22:34 |
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i have a question to you crimson, and blazer. (or whoever else leases their cars) i have never been able to understand why it is a good idea to lease cars? i mean when you buy a vehicle you could make your payments to be for the same time period as the warranty which is usually like 3-5 years. and after that once the warranty is up and you have finished paying it off you could trade it in and get another car... as with a lease you are paying alomst the same price, you have the same warranty (or is it under warranty for as long as your lease?) and after your lease is up they give you the option of either buying the car for pretty cheap price, or moving on to a different car.
is there anything that i have missed or dont know? because to me it seems that it is better for you to buy the car rather then lease it. since in the end you end up having it rather than paying a little less and not owening it when the lease is up.
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| Re: What new car to buy (for me) [message #282551 is a reply to message #248947] |
Wed, 05 September 2007 06:48 |
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Yeah, the Outlook and Acadia are massively awesome, you should check them out.
Check out Hyundai's offerings as well, they have this year's best minivan and Hyundai's new cars are known to be reliable. I think CUVs (if you really need to go large) are the way to go, though.
I wouldn't count on Chrysler for anything. Sure, their new GC looks bundled with a ton of useful features, but based on your experience and the experience of the majority of Chrysler minivan owners, avoid them at all costs.
A vehicle like the Caliber should do OKAY in terms of reliability, as it was developed in partnership with Mitsubishi, but the rest... Chrysler has a lot to learn, and let's just say that the old DaimlerChrysler marriage didn't exactly improve its situation, either.
Ah, almost forgot: The Ford Edge and/or CX-7 should be on your list, as well. They're both extremely reliable and if you can wait for the 08 models, you'll have the chance to equip it with Sync, which should prove to be a much better gadget hub than what Blazer got.
As for the lease thing: there's a cost advantage (I don't know about you, but here, it's about 150-200 less per month than financing, even with 0% interest), a service advantage (as opposed to financing, they rarely let you down - they can't actually, considering the financing division of say, company XYZ will look after you), and when it's a vehicle that depreciates rather quickly/sharply, you're better off giving the burden related to selling the car to the financing company. Such can't be said for Toyota, yet - leasing with them is totally advantage-less and you're really, really better off financing it (no cost advantage whatsoever and they traditionally retain their value better than domestics (as stated, this situation is prone to change)), and if your next vehicle turns out to be from the same company, you usually get a pretty sweet deal if you lease another car from them (brand loyalty can financially pay off, sometimes)... That pretty much covers it... Oh yeah, since it costs less it allows you to get a much better car than you could usually afford (for instance: I got a 20K car (it's fully equipped and cars are generally overpriced here, don't ask me why) which, in reality, I couldn't afford, but having the opportunity to lease it made it affordable.
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| Re: What new car to buy (for me) [message #282552 is a reply to message #248947] |
Wed, 05 September 2007 06:53 |
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People who lease cars are sometimes smart, I have 3 neighbors which all lease their cars and buy a new car every year or two, one of them leases a new car usually fancy ones too, I guess it's like paying for car payments but cheaper, and you can switch cars easily unlike owning a car, to buy a new car when you own one thats working fine is silly, because then you have 2 good cars, but then to "switch" your car for another by leasing, it's easier.....I dunno, for me, I rather buy and own the car, but some people like to try out every car on the market, or every model of their favorite company....nothing wrong with that.
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| Re: What new car to buy (for me) [message #282594 is a reply to message #248947] |
Wed, 05 September 2007 10:35 |
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Leasing is for people who always want to be driving a new car and can afford to always have a car payment. You'll never own a car outright, but you'll get into new cars more often than owning them. You also shouldn't lease if you drive more than 12,000-15,000 miles each year.
Sure, it's not SENSIBLE, but not everyone wants to drive a car into the ground and deal with costly repairs once the warranty is up and the mileage gets high. Leasing puts you in a new car with a warrant every few years.
Compare this:
I bought my car for an original loan amount of something like $32k. This was a $719/month payment for a 6 year loan. (I actually got a pretty good deal overall considering I have about $2000 upside-down on my previous car, I purchased extra warranty extensions, and once you add in all the taxes and licensing fees, the car's sticker price was $32k, so I got then to take a good chunk of it off in negotiation.
Anyway, I refinanced about 18 months ago to bring my payment down to $641/month. Now I've had the car since May 2004 and I currently owe about $20k on it. The Blue Book price, if I bought the car from a dealership (meaning it would be dent-free and inspected/fixed and certified) is about $18k. So I'm still upside-down after 39 months of payments.
But if I LEASED for 39 months (which is a strange, but common lease term, and the same one Blazer got) then I am guaranteed NOT to be upside-down AND I can turn the car in and start over with a new one. The only way you could still owe money on a lease return is if you turn it in damaged or go over your allowed miles.
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| Re: What new car to buy (for me) [message #282605 is a reply to message #248947] |
Wed, 05 September 2007 12:32 |
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and thats exactly it. since you had a dodge its a domestic vehicle and it depriciates greatly. so buying it might prove to be a bad choice since even the warranty on them is relatively low. and if you dont drive much i guess you are fine since like you said you have a set milage limit or you have to pay extra for going over.
however it only seems as a good alternative when buying a domestic car. if you go imports then it will probably not work for some brands. like toyota, honda, mitsubishi and perhaps some german makes that keep their value good. i mean if it keeps its value then why not buy it since 3-4 years later its still a pretty good and relatively new car, and it will still keep some value so you could trade it in. and imports have better warranty, for example the mitsu here have 5year, 100k (kilometers not miles) warranty which is the best i have seen. and they hold their value pretty good.
in 2005 i bought a 2003 galant and it was 13.6k$ cdn after the extended warranty and all the taxes and whatnot it was about 18k. now if i go to check for what they sell them its still 12-14k depending on milage. and i only have 85k kilometers on mine so its about 13k so it kept its value relatively well and im going to pay it off in 2 more years and by then it will probably be around 9k or hopefully more. so it will make a nice downpayment on my next car. now if i was to lease for these 4 years i would probably have had a nicer car since like you said i would be able to afford a better car due to a lower payment. however in 2 years time i would have nothing to trade in... and they would take this car from me aswell.
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| Re: What new car to buy (for me) [message #282606 is a reply to message #248947] |
Wed, 05 September 2007 12:44 |
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Well, when you lease you are essentially paying for the expected depreciation of the car. There is an option at the end of the lease to purchase it for a set price. So, if the car is worth more than what it was expected to depreciate to, you can buy it out and own it.
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| Re: What new car to buy (for me) [message #282611 is a reply to message #248947] |
Wed, 05 September 2007 13:36 |
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but wouldnt you be paying twice for it? or would they actually sell it to you cheaper then what they calculate it to be worth, just because you paid for a depreciation that didnt actually happen at that rate?
im confused lol
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| Re: What new car to buy (for me) [message #282676 is a reply to message #248947] |
Wed, 05 September 2007 19:37 |
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You pay for the car's "depreciation", which is in not an indication of how it would fare on the used car market.
As I mentioned: domestic brands *TRADITIONALLY* (there are some exceptions to this rule and things should change within a couple of years, now that non-domestics are covering a much greater part of fleet sales and all) depreciate faster than their import cousins, this reality pretty much... Uh, goes away when you sign your papers - you'll be paying the expected devaluation of the car (which seriously isn't realistic at all... At least in my case) by the manufacturer, sometimes it can be realistic, sometimes not, depending on the interest rate and the buyout price... Yeah.
Just don't lease a truck (guess why :V).
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| Re: What new car to buy (for me) [message #282949 is a reply to message #282911] |
Fri, 07 September 2007 09:11 |
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| Starbuzz wrote on Fri, 07 September 2007 10:34 |
Nice! 1 question: is it automatic or manual transmission?
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Neither. It's a Continuously Variable Transmission' or CVT.
It has no gears or 'steps' and allows the engine to stay in it's optimal powerband. However, driving one is weird for a while, because it doesn't shift.
Nissan has pursued this type of transmission most successfully, whereas other brands have either given up, or scaled back on their use.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuously_variable_transmission
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| Re: What new car to buy (for me) [message #283082 is a reply to message #248947] |
Sat, 08 September 2007 02:54 |
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As said it is CVT, so you never feel or hear it shift. However, it does have a manual xtronic mode, where you can shift up and down 6 gears, and it feels like "normal" triptronic shifting then. For the most part I just leave it in D
@luv2pb: Yep still have the stang. I'm basically going to give it to genlkozar. 
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