| Graphics driver n00b [message #279349] |
Thu, 16 August 2007 03:33  |
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Veyrdite
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What are they and what should i use???? I'm being told Intel extreme graphics is the worst thing ever (daa, its from Intel) but i never knew it really mattered. I have no graphics card installed (even n00bier) so I'm guessing it all drains from my processor.
What should i install and does it really matter?
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| Re: Graphics driver n00b [message #279350 is a reply to message #279349] |
Thu, 16 August 2007 03:37  |
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Ryu
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I have no graphics card installed
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Then how are you browsing these forums or playing Renegade?
Okay, DO this: Start > Right click "My PC" > Properties > Hardware > Click "Device Manager" > Click the "+" next to "Display Devices" and tell me whats there.
If you're using a old nVidia Card, They stopped supporting there cards with drivers.
If you're using ATi then you're in luck! they care for there customers. 
EDIT: Drivers for your graphics card can help improve performance, etc, I recommend updating but using the wrong drivers *could* mess your system up.
Presence is a curious thing, if you think you need to prove it... you probably never had it in the first place.
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| Re: Graphics driver n00b [message #279352 is a reply to message #279349] |
Thu, 16 August 2007 03:46 |
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Veyrdite
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I have a Graphics card lying around somewhere a year or so old, but i have never used it. Hopefully i will discard my retarded "Dell Dimention 3000<budget plastics and co>" and buy myself a new one soon, probably construct my own as i already have the graphics card, a dvd rewrite and a (80 gig i think) hard drive.
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| Re: Graphics driver n00b [message #279359 is a reply to message #279354] |
Thu, 16 August 2007 04:14 |
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That is one of the oldest Intel GMA you have. If you want to get a graphics card, get an ATI one. X1950 if you are on budget, 2900HD if you want the best one out there.
And Viking will come along claiming that ATI sucks.
On board VGA means the graphics is calculated on the processor and not another card. Onboard stuff usually means no Hardware Transform and Lighting and = sucky graphics.
nopol10=Nopol=nopol(GSA)
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| Re: Graphics driver n00b [message #279360 is a reply to message #279359] |
Thu, 16 August 2007 04:17 |
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| nopol10 wrote on Thu, 16 August 2007 12:14 |
That is one of the oldest Intel GMA you have. If you want to get a graphics card, get an ATI one. X1950 if you are on budget, 2900HD if you want the best one out there.
And Viking will come along claiming that ATI sucks.
On board VGA means the graphics is calculated on the processor and not another card. Onboard stuff usually means no Hardware Transform and Lighting and = sucky graphics.
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Is Viking Dr.KillGood??? I for now got a ATI X1550...My 8800GTS fried...and EVGA is being an ass.
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| Re: Graphics driver n00b [message #279364 is a reply to message #279363] |
Thu, 16 August 2007 04:23 |
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| dthdealer wrote on Thu, 16 August 2007 12:19 |
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....and what should i use????
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Original question, that is for now.
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Go Here and choose what operating system you have (Most probably Windows Home.)
Just incase you're confused. Click This and that should install up 2 date drivers. This will not work on VISTA.
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| Re: Graphics driver n00b [message #279366 is a reply to message #279349] |
Thu, 16 August 2007 04:39 |
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Veyrdite
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Just get an error when installing. Good night by the way, its 40-past nine in Australia.
Look what i found in a museum. Hopefully good enough
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| Re: Graphics driver n00b [message #279369 is a reply to message #279349] |
Thu, 16 August 2007 04:46 |
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Veyrdite
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Brings back old memories that warning does.
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Some machines dont have an AGP slot, so check that first. Its slower as it uses your cpu and system RAM (rather than its own, as you would get with a physical card
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AGP? I'm hopeless
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| Re: Graphics driver n00b [message #279374 is a reply to message #279349] |
Thu, 16 August 2007 04:53 |
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Veyrdite
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XP home, as i said it brings back old memories. Does look like 98 or me if you ignore the picture quality on the warning.
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| Re: Graphics driver n00b [message #279384 is a reply to message #279349] |
Thu, 16 August 2007 06:06 |
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Chuck Norris
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The Dimension 3000 lacks AGP, and it has ONLY regular PCI. No PCI-Express. In layman's terms, your computer has very little potential in way of video cards. That model was intended as a basic machine. You can install a PCI card, but they will not be high performers and will cost alot for what you actually get.
On PCI, from greatest to worst, here are your options.
ATi Radeon X1300/X1550- The latter is just an improved X1300. Although I prefer nVidia, ATi has the best performance on PCI.
nVidia GeForce 6200- Probably around par, give or take, with a GeForce4 Ti4200, which isn't half bad.
nVidia GeForce 5600
nVidia GeForce 5700LE- "Lesser Edition" of the real GeForce 5700, so the normal GeForce 5600 beats it.
nVidia GeForce 5500- Is basically an overclocked GeForce 5200.
ATi Radeon 9250
nVidia GeForce 5200- SLOW, SLOW, SLOW. I think it sometimes even lost to the GeForce4 MX series cards.
Anything lower (even those near the bottom of the list) will barely outperform your onboard VGA, so don't bother with anything below the GeForce 5500, and even avoid that unless you have to. There's ALOT of things to pay attention to. Namely, avoid any LE or SE cards, becuase they're lower end versions of the "normal" cards becuase they're usually running on 64-bit memory buses, which won't perform well at all. Also, remember, you CAN NOT use AGP or PCI Express cards, so remember that before you buy anything. Normal PCI cards are what you need. That card you pictured above has an AGP connector, so it won't fit or work in your computer.
Some may be rare to find, and others may be expensive, but a GeForce 5600 and above should be enough for Renegade. Just don't expect blazing speeds at high resolutions.
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| Re: Graphics driver n00b [message #279387 is a reply to message #279349] |
Thu, 16 August 2007 06:09 |
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But wouldn't buy a brand new PC with something like Intel X3000 (It's not THAT bad as the last generation) or ATI X1600/nVidia 7600GT
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| Re: Graphics driver n00b [message #279430 is a reply to message #279349] |
Thu, 16 August 2007 12:09 |
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dthdealer... i highly advise you not to build your own system since you lack the essential knowledge that you need in order to buy compatible parts. if you do indeed decide to build one yourself you will need tons of advice or you will end up just wasting your money.
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| Re: Graphics driver n00b [message #279916 is a reply to message #279349] |
Sun, 19 August 2007 02:44 |
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Veyrdite
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I can easily make my own PC, the only thing this topic shows is that i know nothing about on board VGA which is Software, not hardware.
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Ok do this:
Press the windows key (Inbetween ctrl and alt) and pause/break key > Hardware > Device Manager > Display Adapters > Intel (whatever it says) > Driver. Take a screenshot of that window for me please.
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I know that this computer is crap, and i need to buy a new card, but that will all happen in a few months. It has a rate of 40fps while at 1152x864 with all detail settings set to their lowest exept the texture detail set to its highest, that is during a normal or SP game, 20fps in a graphic-intense game or level, 30fps in roleplay2. I dont want a graphics card just yet, and by the time i get one those there will be a better card at the same price.
All i want to know is what graphics driver/on board VGA driver to use At this date.
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| Re: Graphics driver n00b [message #279953 is a reply to message #279916] |
Sun, 19 August 2007 11:49 |
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| dthdealer wrote on Sun, 19 August 2007 04:44 |
I can easily make my own PC, the only thing this topic shows is that i know nothing about on board VGA which is Software, not hardware.
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Not entirely true. The video work is done through software, that is, the CPU, but it's not like you can change the software drivers and have a new video card. It's worked through software, but it's still the same piece of video hardware.| dthdealer wrote on Sun, 19 August 2007 04:44 |
All i want to know is what graphics driver/on board VGA driver to use At this date.
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I've used the Dell provided drivers (yes, I have a Dell too, though I'm using an AGP card) and the Intel ones, and saw no difference. Those are the only two drivers for it that im aware of.
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Chuck Norris is the reason why Waldo is hiding.
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